So.....what's Thunder Rosa's injury?

[Mozenrath]

Nov 24, 2022 19:25:45 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

Nov 24, 2022 17:50:07 GMT -5 markymark said:

So in a way we should blame it on Punk for AEW bringing up the interim bs on the women division?

Im happy the interim stuff is gone though...

If they're going to keep the interim titles, they need to put a definitive time limit on it and uphold it for everyone. Not back in 30/60/90 days, then the title gets stripped.

They had to go the interim route with Rosa after doing it with Cody and Punk though. I don't think treating the women's champ differently would have been the way to go (unless they completely scrap the interim thing altogether)

I'm fine with it being a case by case basis, rather than arbitrary limits, but unless it's a heel or something, probably better to call on them to willingly relinquish, rather than stripping the title without giving them the option.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Nov 24, 2022 11:24:38 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Nov 24, 2022 5:41:09 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I'm fine with it, honestly, especially since she might very well end up being the first two-time champion.

We’ll see. TK’s booking of the women so far doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.

It’ll be telling if she continues a being featured on TV regularly or not.

Toni was featured almost every single week. A lot of girls have been featured way more regularly lately.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Nov 17, 2022 11:57:31 GMT -5 markymark said:

In a new interview with The Ringer, Toni Storm once again called for Rosa to come to work, while also saying that she should be stripped of her AEW Women's World Title if her injury lingers on for too long.

“Personally, I think she should just come to work and defend her championship like she’s supposed to, like a champion should. But if the injury lingers too long, I believe she should probably be stripped. And then I should be the AEW undisputed Women’s World Champion like I was supposed to be at All Out. That’s verbatim. I think she should defend her title. I think all champions should defend that championship. That doesn’t just go for Thunder Rosa. That goes for everybody.”

www.fightful.com/wrestling/toni-storm-if-thunder-rosa-s-injury-lingers-too-long-she-should-be-stripped-her-aew-women-s-title?utm_source=TW-Fightful&utm_medium=Fightful%20Wrestling%20News&utm_campaign=dlvr.it

Jesus Toni just shut up will you

This is really really unhelpful rhetoric and this attitude is what leads to wrestlers hurting themselves and better yet literally dying young

And if you don't believe it is actually an injury, even more reason to shut the f*** up

Tony is absolutely not what he is all cracked up to be

[Mozenrath]

Nov 25, 2022 3:23:51 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

Nov 17, 2022 11:57:31 GMT -5 markymark said:

www.fightful.com/wrestling/toni-storm-if-thunder-rosa-s-injury-lingers-too-long-she-should-be-stripped-her-aew-women-s-title?utm_source=TW-Fightful&utm_medium=Fightful%20Wrestling%20News&utm_campaign=dlvr.it

Jesus Toni just shut up will you

This is really really unhelpful rhetoric and this attitude is what leads to wrestlers hurting themselves and better yet literally dying young

And if you don't believe it is actually an injury, even more reason to shut the f*** up

Tony is absolutely not what he is all cracked up to be

I honestly think she's been hard on Rosa to try to build to a grudge match between the two, but maybe I am giving her too much credit. Sometimes wrestlers are working, sometimes they're just stupid.

[The Captain]

I don't see what Toni said is actually any kind of bad. Hell, it's what a lot of people have already said here. After X amount of time, she should either be healthy enough to defend the title or made to relinquish it and drop the "interim" stuff.

And that's exactly what happened. Rosa still wasn't healthy enough to defend the title by Full Gear, so she relinquished it and Toni and Jamie are no longer considered interim champions.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Nov 26, 2022 17:45:53 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I don't see what Toni said is actually any kind of bad. Hell, it's what a lot of people have already said here. After X amount of time, she should either be healthy enough to defend the title or made to relinquish it and drop the "interim" stuff.

And that's exactly what happened. Rosa still wasn't healthy enough to defend the title by Full Gear, so she relinquished it and Toni and Jamie are no longer considered interim champions.

Toni phrasing it as a criticism of Rosa like she decides who is interim is a problem in my view

That is Khan's choice, not Rosa's

She also was saying this at the press scrum at which she won the title, so not like she waited it out very long

As I have said far too many times, if it is a work, it is a stupid one

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Nov 26, 2022 20:04:53 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

Nov 26, 2022 17:45:53 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I don't see what Toni said is actually any kind of bad. Hell, it's what a lot of people have already said here. After X amount of time, she should either be healthy enough to defend the title or made to relinquish it and drop the "interim" stuff.

And that's exactly what happened. Rosa still wasn't healthy enough to defend the title by Full Gear, so she relinquished it and Toni and Jamie are no longer considered interim champions.

Toni phrasing it as a criticism of Rosa like she decides who is interim is a problem in my view

That is Khan's choice, not Rosa's

She also was saying this at the press scrum at which she won the title, so not like she waited it out very long

As I have said far too many times, if it is a work, it is a stupid one

If I ever, by some miracle, ever become rich enough to fund and book my nationally televised wrestling promotion one of the first rules I'm laying down is that you work the audience on the show, not in the dirt sheets, and if you aren't good enough to do that then work on being so. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.

Anyway - I think Toni's been the best champion AEW's had in the women's division so far. I think Shida could have been it had her reign not happened in the pandemic, but it is what it is. She had a match nearly every week and always put her all out there.

I think using her ass as a finisher is a bit silly, but once again, that's just a personal thing and it's obviously over.

[A Little Doo Doo]

Nov 27, 2022 2:47:02 GMT -5 @thelongandtheshort said:

Nov 26, 2022 20:04:53 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

Toni phrasing it as a criticism of Rosa like she decides who is interim is a problem in my view

That is Khan's choice, not Rosa's

She also was saying this at the press scrum at which she won the title, so not like she waited it out very long

As I have said far too many times, if it is a work, it is a stupid one

If I ever, by some miracle, ever become rich enough to fund and book my nationally televised wrestling promotion one of the first rules I'm laying down is that you work the audience on the show, not in the dirt sheets, and if you aren't good enough to do that then work on being so. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.

Anyway - I think Toni's been the best champion AEW's had in the women's division so far. I think Shida could have been it had her reign not happened in the pandemic, but it is what it is. She had a match nearly every week and always put her all out there.

I think using her ass as a finisher is a bit silly, but once again, that's just a personal thing and it's obviously over.

To be fair, she does make it look devastating. lol

[Chiral]

Nov 27, 2022 3:08:47 GMT -5 A Little Doo Doo said:

Nov 27, 2022 2:47:02 GMT -5 @thelongandtheshort said:

If I ever, by some miracle, ever become rich enough to fund and book my nationally televised wrestling promotion one of the first rules I'm laying down is that you work the audience on the show, not in the dirt sheets, and if you aren't good enough to do that then work on being so. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.

Anyway - I think Toni's been the best champion AEW's had in the women's division so far. I think Shida could have been it had her reign not happened in the pandemic, but it is what it is. She had a match nearly every week and always put her all out there.

I think using her ass as a finisher is a bit silly, but once again, that's just a personal thing and it's obviously over.

To be fair, she does make it look devastating. lol

RJ City didn't name that move Sweet Cheeks Music just for her not to use it, yaknow?

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Nov 27, 2022 3:08:47 GMT -5 A Little Doo Doo said:

Nov 27, 2022 2:47:02 GMT -5 @thelongandtheshort said:

If I ever, by some miracle, ever become rich enough to fund and book my nationally televised wrestling promotion one of the first rules I'm laying down is that you work the audience on the show, not in the dirt sheets, and if you aren't good enough to do that then work on being so. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.

Anyway - I think Toni's been the best champion AEW's had in the women's division so far. I think Shida could have been it had her reign not happened in the pandemic, but it is what it is. She had a match nearly every week and always put her all out there.

I think using her ass as a finisher is a bit silly, but once again, that's just a personal thing and it's obviously over.

To be fair, she does make it look devastating. lol

I'll give you that.  She did one to somebody in the ropes a few weeks back (can't remember who off hand) and Toni somehow made a buttcheek to the face look devastating. 

I guess I just get flashbacks to WWE Divas era whenever I see Toni smack her own ass to then use it as a weapon.  But, once again, it's over as hell, and she does make it look really good. 

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

Nov 27, 2022 2:47:02 GMT -5 @thelongandtheshort said:

I think using her ass as a finisher is a bit silly, but once again, that's just a personal thing and it's obviously over.

I cannot recall a single match she's ended with it, her finishes are the pendulum DDT and the piledriver.

[markymark]

Meltzer: The last word we’d heard was Thunder Rosa hoped to be back in February. There were a lot of people who thought she would be Saraya’s mystery partner against Britt Baker & Jamie Hayter on 1/11 at the Kia Forum in Los Angeles, but the last word on her return was February.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 11, 2022 17:25:50 GMT -5 markymark said:

Meltzer: The last word we’d heard was Thunder Rosa hoped to be back in February. There were a lot of people who thought she would be Saraya’s mystery partner against Britt Baker & Jamie Hayter on 1/11 at the Kia Forum in Los Angeles, but the last word on her return was February.

That would be a really great way for Rosa to never get cheered again given the thought of who it actually could be in LA.

[Banjo Is Broken]

Thunder Rosa decided that she isn't going to come out of the bathroom until February.

[The Captain]

Dec 12, 2022 0:59:19 GMT -5 Banjo Is Broken said:

Thunder Rosa decided that she isn't going to come out of the bathroom until February.

And then she'll see her shadow and go back in, which means six more weeks of winter.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

Dec 11, 2022 17:54:59 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Dec 11, 2022 17:25:50 GMT -5 markymark said:

That would be a really great way for Rosa to never get cheered again given the thought of who it actually could be in LA.

The thought Britt Baker fans and those fans dog piling on Rosa makes me want to delete Twitter so fast lol

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Nov 26, 2022 17:45:53 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I don't see what Toni said is actually any kind of bad. Hell, it's what a lot of people have already said here. After X amount of time, she should either be healthy enough to defend the title or made to relinquish it and drop the "interim" stuff.

And that's exactly what happened. Rosa still wasn't healthy enough to defend the title by Full Gear, so she relinquished it and Toni and Jamie are no longer considered interim champions.

Also when Moxley was interim champ, he would say the same thing. That he's the champ, no interim about it, whatever. The internet didn't explode over this being a burial of CM Punk.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Dec 13, 2022 12:07:16 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Nov 26, 2022 17:45:53 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I don't see what Toni said is actually any kind of bad. Hell, it's what a lot of people have already said here. After X amount of time, she should either be healthy enough to defend the title or made to relinquish it and drop the "interim" stuff.

And that's exactly what happened. Rosa still wasn't healthy enough to defend the title by Full Gear, so she relinquished it and Toni and Jamie are no longer considered interim champions.

Also when Moxley was interim champ, he would say the same thing. That he's the champ, no interim about it, whatever. The internet didn't explode over this being a burial of CM Punk.

There is a difference between a wrestler using this terminology in an in character promo and a shoot interview

Yeah loads of wrestlers use kayfabe in shoot interviews but in scenarios like this that is stupid too

Moxley also didn't, at a press scrum, say the same shit without a hint of kayfabe

[markymark]

According to PW Insider, Thunder Rosa was seen backstage last night on Dynamite. Thunder Rosa is not expected to return until February or March

[Nosnorb]

Dec 22, 2022 13:03:30 GMT -5 markymark said:

According to PW Insider, Thunder Rosa was seen backstage last night on Dynamite. Thunder Rosa is not expected to return until February or March

Rosa lives in SA, so no surprise she was there.