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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 19, 2023 21:10:06 GMT -5
If there’s one announcement that scares me, it’s Green Lantern. I don’t know why (I have my theories), but DC has gone out of their way the past few years to make Hal Jordan look bad. I recently read an article about how Jordan is too “vanilla,” and is a “throwback to Reagan era America,” to work today, which tells me all I need to know about what’ll be done. I hope I’m wrong because Hal Jordan is one of the greatest comic book characters of all time. Speaking as someone who grew up with Stewart Lantern on Justice League (with him and Kyle in the books as a kid), I get the frustration. I read said article, wasn’t that the whole point of Hard Traveling Heroes? That Hal had a simplistic outlook on stuff and him and Green Arrow were learning? And when you read it, Hal often comes off way more down to earth than Ollie does.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 19, 2023 22:41:48 GMT -5
The more I think about certain parts of this slate and the more I read from Gunn, the less convinced I become that it's a good slate. Or at the very least, not a good slate for me. I appreciate this might be a me thing.
I'm not going to write anything off until there are more details, casting, and even trailers because that would be premature. I'm just not going to get excited or hyped for anything, lol
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Post by jobber2thestars on Feb 20, 2023 13:32:40 GMT -5
The more I think about certain parts of this slate and the more I read from Gunn, the less convinced I become that it's a good slate. Or at the very least, not a good slate for me. I appreciate this might be a me thing. I'm not going to write anything off until there are more details, casting, and even trailers because that would be premature. I'm just not going to get excited or hyped for anything, lol I heard Gunn was meant to be in charge of Marvel’s Phase 4 movies, but he got cancelled and the studio had to scrap everything. He came back to do Guardians 3, but didn’t run anything else. A rumor I heard is these DC films will be repurposed ideas for his Marvel movies. If so, just go back and read back issues from the 70s if you want good stories.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 21, 2023 13:16:40 GMT -5
Oof
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 21, 2023 14:26:12 GMT -5
The more I think about certain parts of this slate and the more I read from Gunn, the less convinced I become that it's a good slate. Or at the very least, not a good slate for me. I appreciate this might be a me thing. I'm not going to write anything off until there are more details, casting, and even trailers because that would be premature. I'm just not going to get excited or hyped for anything, lol I heard Gunn was meant to be in charge of Marvel’s Phase 4 movies, but he got cancelled and the studio had to scrap everything. He came back to do Guardians 3, but didn’t run anything else. A rumor I heard is these DC films will be repurposed ideas for his Marvel movies. If so, just go back and read back issues from the 70s if you want good stories. Where'd you hear this?
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Post by Savage Gambino on Feb 21, 2023 16:05:47 GMT -5
I heard Gunn was meant to be in charge of Marvel’s Phase 4 movies, but he got cancelled and the studio had to scrap everything. He came back to do Guardians 3, but didn’t run anything else. A rumor I heard is these DC films will be repurposed ideas for his Marvel movies. If so, just go back and read back issues from the 70s if you want good stories. Where'd you hear this? Language Warning, but I feel it will be relevant, RE: a lot of the rumors surrounding Gunn, DC, and Marvel
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Post by Cyno on Feb 21, 2023 16:20:17 GMT -5
Either that or some YouTube grifter or a shithole like Bounding Into Comics.
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Post by eJm on Feb 21, 2023 16:34:58 GMT -5
Yeah, as mentioned, a lot of that feels like the sort of nonsense some grift website would come up with like how Constantine 2 was apparently cancelled.
Also, considering the depth of stuff that DC has announced and it coming from sources you wouldn’t expect (I would not have called Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow being adapted at all), I can’t really figure that repurposing Marvel ideas would be on the agenda unless they’ve literally got a bunch of Marvel screenplay writers on board and nobody said anything.
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Post by thechase on Mar 5, 2023 6:02:13 GMT -5
Arrow co-creator Mark Guggengheim a little salty he wasn't invited to the new writers room, as revealed on his substack
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 5, 2023 15:42:45 GMT -5
Well, if the bad soap opera-level writing of the Arrowverse didn't get him on the shortlist of writers for the DCU, bitching about it online surely will.
Right?
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Post by Cyno on Mar 5, 2023 16:02:31 GMT -5
As much as I liked Crisis, it didn't entirely stick the landing. And the entire Arrowverse went to shit after it except for Legends.
Also didn't help things that it was on CW so it was stuck in ratings purgatory.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2023 8:41:21 GMT -5
Well, if the bad soap opera-level writing of the Arrowverse didn't get him on the shortlist of writers for the DCU, bitching about it online surely will. Right? Like, I can understand his feelings to an extent (like, I don't think they'd be taking a risk with a Supergirl movie if the series didn't have the building blocks down as an example) but yeah, how does this in any way make Gunn and Safran reconsider things? Along with that, if you want to make a potential new universe (and arguably multiverse if more projects like The Batman and Joker keep going), it'd be better to have fresh names around rather than people who've been there and done that.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 6, 2023 14:45:29 GMT -5
Well, if the bad soap opera-level writing of the Arrowverse didn't get him on the shortlist of writers for the DCU, bitching about it online surely will. Right? Like, I can understand his feelings to an extent (like, I don't think they'd be taking a risk with a Supergirl movie if the series didn't have the building blocks down as an example) but yeah, how does this in any way make Gunn and Safran reconsider things? Along with that, if you want to make a potential new universe (and arguably multiverse if more projects like The Batman and Joker keep going), it'd be better to have fresh names around rather than people who've been there and done that. If they're being inspired a lot by Woman Of Tomorrow for the Supergirl movie, the Supergirl TV show would be a poor example to follow anyway. Outside of some moments of the first season, Supergirl as portrayed in the TV show was a lot like her pre-Crisis "Just like Superman but female" personality. Woman of Tomorrow is a very different take on her from that. Though it is a bit more in line with how she's been portrayed since Infinite Crisis and the New 52. And it's one I've grown to personally like more as it lets Kara be her own person and distinct from Kal.
Granted, we don't know exactly how Woman of Tomorrow is influencing the creative direction of the new Supergirl movie. It could just be "Oh Kara's going on a fun space adventure!" instead of, well, everything else that goes on in that story.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 6, 2023 15:52:11 GMT -5
I loved the Arrowverse, worts and all, but dude if they weren't going to keep Cavill around they weren't going to meet with you to have you stay around. They want a fresh(ish) reboot and I can understand it. Suck he felt underappreciated and spent all that money, but that isn't on Gunn and DC at this point.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 6, 2023 16:03:11 GMT -5
I really liked the first couple seasons of Supergirl, but maaaan even as someone who agreed with their side of politics their stuff was on the nose so much as to become insufferable.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 6, 2023 16:04:12 GMT -5
Boy there is no chance the Shazam sequel ain't DOA in a couple weeks.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 6, 2023 16:12:32 GMT -5
Boy there is no chance the Shazam sequel ain't DOA in a couple weeks. Sucks since I really loved the first one and am very eager for the second but yeah, the market just doesn't seem to be there right now.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2023 16:48:27 GMT -5
Like, I can understand his feelings to an extent (like, I don't think they'd be taking a risk with a Supergirl movie if the series didn't have the building blocks down as an example) but yeah, how does this in any way make Gunn and Safran reconsider things? Along with that, if you want to make a potential new universe (and arguably multiverse if more projects like The Batman and Joker keep going), it'd be better to have fresh names around rather than people who've been there and done that. If they're being inspired a lot by Woman Of Tomorrow for the Supergirl movie, the Supergirl TV show would be a poor example to follow anyway. Outside of some moments of the first season, Supergirl as portrayed in the TV show was a lot like her pre-Crisis "Just like Superman but female" personality. Woman of Tomorrow is a very different take on her from that. Though it is a bit more in line with how she's been portrayed since Infinite Crisis and the New 52. And it's one I've grown to personally like more as it lets Kara be her own person and distinct from Kal.
Granted, we don't know exactly how Woman of Tomorrow is influencing the creative direction of the new Supergirl movie. It could just be "Oh Kara's going on a fun space adventure!" instead of, well, everything else that goes on in that story.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t saying there was a direct link but the fact the Supergirl show was a success for a bit at least put her in the consciousness enough for there to be potential for a movie. Stuff like that.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 6, 2023 17:03:56 GMT -5
I never watched any of the CW stuff because when it kicked off I lived in a country that didn't screen any of it. Now it's just too much to catch up with, even if it was worth it.
I can understand being slightly put out at not even getting a courtesy email from the new guys, even if it was just full of Hollywood-esque platitudes. I don't think that is worth being taken to heart so fiercely though. I'm guessing that Gunn and Safran just don't see the CW stuff as having anything to do with them or the future.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 6, 2023 17:15:25 GMT -5
My only exposure to the CW stuff was I watched like the first two episodes of Arrow and didn't care about it at all.
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