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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Oct 31, 2022 14:32:00 GMT -5
That will ACTUALLY focus on the Friday the 13th franchise
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 14:50:10 GMT -5
I am mildly intrigued by this being a prequel so I guess it could mean we are focusing on Ms Voorhees and expanding on that family.
And with A24 who have my full trust with both X and Pearl being amongst my fav recent horror movies , I am in for this.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Oct 31, 2022 15:05:23 GMT -5
Well I always heard Sean Cunningham wanted a F13 revival without Jason, moot point as he doesn't seem to be involved.
It could be interesting indeed...especially for those who liked Pamela as the original antagonist. Also to see how Jason was treated en route to his original death.
I loved Pushing Daisies so I like seeing Fuller's name mentioned.
Only possible difficulties are...
1) Jason drowning is what started the Crystal Lake murders. Before then, is there any reason to have any killings? Unless it's some time between Jason's death and the original F13. As such, I can see people complain if the series is not slasher enough.
2) Similarly...look at the Halloween Ends backlash and what happens when you don't have enough or any of the signature killer.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 31, 2022 15:09:18 GMT -5
I can pretty much only see two ways for this to go, either very stupid or very boring. I don't think there's much of a middle ground.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 31, 2022 15:51:39 GMT -5
I can pretty much only see two ways for this to go, either very stupid or very boring. I don't think there's much of a middle ground. After Hannibal, I have faith in Fuller to make this interesting. Or they could remember Jason Goes to Hell and have all sorts of Necronomica hyjinx.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Oct 31, 2022 15:51:43 GMT -5
Idk. Jason is FRIDAY THE 13TH.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 31, 2022 15:54:27 GMT -5
Idk. Jason is FRIDAY THE 13TH. Not always...
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Post by pinja on Oct 31, 2022 16:30:29 GMT -5
Idk. Jason is FRIDAY THE 13TH. This. His presence is iconic. Surely not his elaborate, Shapespearan backstory. But maybe they get advice from Rob Zombie how to explain a series' ultimate evil.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 31, 2022 16:42:52 GMT -5
Bates Motel got a lot of milage out of a child Patrick Bates and his mother, I could see something of the like for this show. Cautiously interested.
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Post by tntchamp on Oct 31, 2022 17:16:16 GMT -5
I'm certainly interested. I am definitely a Friday 13th fan even if I don't think it's as good as the elm Street or Halloween franchise. I also loved Hannibal and it is one of my favorite shows so I am definitely interested. The fact A24 is producing this only further peaks my interest. Still waiting to hear a update though on that IT prequel series.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Oct 31, 2022 18:20:28 GMT -5
Idk. Jason is FRIDAY THE 13TH. More in an iconic sense yes, but more focus on Pamela Voorhees also works.
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Post by ace on Oct 31, 2022 18:53:14 GMT -5
Real ones know Bryan Fuller’s best work was Wonderfalls.
I’ll follow him anywhere. Even to a pre adult Jason Crystal Lake that doesn’t make sense on paper.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 1, 2022 8:35:29 GMT -5
I am now wondering...could this be ANOTHER anthology series like the 80s version? Only it involves different horror stories that happen at and around Crystal Lake?
Maybe a touch of Freddy's Nightmares that it'll only sometimes or eventually get to the Voorhees family?
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 1, 2022 8:42:48 GMT -5
Idk. Jason is FRIDAY THE 13TH. This. His presence is iconic. Surely not his elaborate, Shapespearan backstory. But maybe they get advice from Rob Zombie how to explain a series' ultimate evil.
Except with Jason, there is potential to be somewhat interesting about it. Mind you, it could be derivative (the "different" kid who gets bullied), but at least you could kind of guess that's how it played out from the original movies. So it wouldn't be a radical change like the Redneck Myers Family Adventures. As weird as it is to say, Jason is already the most sympathetic of the slasher icons.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 1, 2022 9:00:23 GMT -5
The remake was easily the best of the slasher remakes that were going around. Making Jason smarter, faster, and more agile was a damn good move. And the video game was good, but thanks to the lawsuit every update stopped.
Friday the 13th's had the best success, and we're actually getting new stuff, so it's nice to see.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 1, 2022 13:46:26 GMT -5
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Post by pinja on Nov 1, 2022 13:59:48 GMT -5
This. His presence is iconic. Surely not his elaborate, Shapespearan backstory. But maybe they get advice from Rob Zombie how to explain a series' ultimate evil.
Except with Jason, there is potential to be somewhat interesting about it. Mind you, it could be derivative (the "different" kid who gets bullied), but at least you could kind of guess that's how it played out from the original movies. So it wouldn't be a radical change like the Redneck Myers Family Adventures. As weird as it is to say, Jason is already the most sympathetic of the slasher icons. You're right. There's potential to draw sympathy for Jason from what little we "know" about his background. But still, that's not how "Friday" got famous. Unlike "Bates Motel" or "Hannibal", which are psychological thrillers and therefore character driven by nature, "Friday" is pure Slasher camp. The fascination for Jason doesn't stem from his charaterization and/or psychological complexity, but from the exact opposite. He's an all physical force of nature. What led to him being or becoming what he is (since at least part 3) isn't a gradual development, but a big bang. Kid died, came back from the dead to take revenge on horny teenagers.
So while one surely could do something with the character that deviates from the established formular, as a very minor fan I see little gain from that. One could argue that it really doesn't matter. If the show isn't for me or if it's outright bad, I could ignore it and just enjoy the movies. While that is true, every media is more than it's own output. It always includes the discourse surrounding it. So if the show would be detrimental to what's deemed the soul of "Friday", the discourse around the whole franchise could take a turn that might alienate fans.
Mind you, this is speculation on my part. But I think some literary theory can validate fear of fans of any franchise in general.
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Post by mystermystery on Nov 1, 2022 20:54:06 GMT -5
Well, Jason as he's mythologized in pop culture isn't in Part 1, Part 2 (Potato Sack Mask Jason isn't a draw, brother), Part 5 (GET ME A ROY SERIES YOU COWARDS), and much of Part 9 (Body hopping demon before a Jason cameo appearance) or the TV Series, so them not having him in another TV series feels par for the course.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 1, 2022 20:59:54 GMT -5
Well, Jason as he's mythologized in pop culture isn't in Part 1, Part 2 (Potato Sack Mask Jason isn't a draw, brother), Part 5 (GET ME A ROY SERIES YOU COWARDS), and much of Part 9 (Body hopping demon before a Jason cameo appearance) or the TV Series, so them not having him in another TV series feels par for the course. In a just world, Roy and Silver Shamrock get series or movies. Jesse Walsh too. This may be a moot point. Cause as I mentioned before, they CAN use any of the F13 mythos apparently.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 1, 2022 23:58:43 GMT -5
This. His presence is iconic. Surely not his elaborate, Shapespearan backstory. But maybe they get advice from Rob Zombie how to explain a series' ultimate evil.
Except with Jason, there is potential to be somewhat interesting about it. Mind you, it could be derivative (the "different" kid who gets bullied), but at least you could kind of guess that's how it played out from the original movies. So it wouldn't be a radical change like the Redneck Myers Family Adventures. As weird as it is to say, Jason is already the most sympathetic of the slasher icons. IMO, the two best movies in the franchise were the ones where Jason was not the killer (the original and Part V with Roy the Paramedic). I would like to see how they treat young Jason leading up to his death. Maybe his being "different" meant he was the violent one rather than the bullying victim. There's dispute as to whether he was always deformed also: the flashbacks of him drowning were done in bad lighting, and when he jumps out of the water at the end, he's pretty badly decomposed. But then in the visions of him in Part VIII, he just looked like a normal boy. So the nature of his deformity has always been a mystery that could be cleared up here as well. Jason Goes to Hell also name-drops his father Elias, but that's the only mention of him in the actual films. The comic series supposedly explores him somewhat and shows him to be abusive. I'd like to see the family dynamic explored more. It may not be a straight slasher like the movies, but there's psychological aspects to explore, of course with Jason as well as with Pamela, who I suspect might have been on the edge of sanity even before Jason drowned. Explaining his immortality is also something that could be explored. And how he rose out of the lake in the body of a dead kid, then became a full adult presumably a year later.
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