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Post by fw91 on Dec 2, 2022 20:45:39 GMT -5
I understand not going all in for Jake right there, and am thankful it's not Atlanta. But, Uncle Steve can you let us in on what's going on? Despite having all this money, we don't seem to be interested in getting any better after a post-season berth that told us we weren't good enough. Despite being a perfect fit for this team, we are inexplicably not in play for Aaron Judge. We want to bring back Bassit because why? What's the game plan?, because again we look to be not good enough This is what people were saying last year early in November. It'll come together. until it fell apart down the stretch (which was telegraphed despite the high win total) I will gladly trade 10-12 less wins for a squad more suited to win in October. |
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Post by RKTaker on Dec 2, 2022 20:51:29 GMT -5
if deGrom keeps his performance up Rangers rotation could be nasty in a few years with him, Leiter, and Rocker
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Post by fw91 on Dec 2, 2022 20:57:51 GMT -5
if deGrom keeps his performance up Rangers rotation could be nasty in a few years with him, Leiter, and Rocker Love Jake, but I don't think he'll be elite in a "few years" |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 2, 2022 21:01:10 GMT -5
I think Mets thinking is instead of spending it all on one player but go after a few quality players
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Post by RKTaker on Dec 2, 2022 21:02:09 GMT -5
if deGrom keeps his performance up Rangers rotation could be nasty in a few years with him, Leiter, and Rocker Love Jake, but I don't think he'll be elite in a "few years" i mean look at Verlander, had Tommy John last year, was phenomenal this year, I know it's a massive If but it doesn't mean it can't happen |
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Post by mc74 on Dec 2, 2022 21:04:15 GMT -5
Big domino comes off the board If there's one way for me to express how I feel, this is it.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 2, 2022 21:04:49 GMT -5
Love Jake, but I don't think he'll be elite in a "few years" i mean look at Verlander, had Tommy John last year, was phenomenal this year, I know it's a massive If but it doesn't mean it can't happen Jake wasn't himself as he went through the end of this year. Looking more human. |
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Post by mc74 on Dec 2, 2022 21:12:41 GMT -5
There are definitely some concerns with deGrom as he's been dealing with some injury issues for the past couple of years now. It will all depend on whether he can remain healthy or not.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Dec 2, 2022 21:14:27 GMT -5
deGrom to Rangers, five years 185 million, per Passan. Rangers are quietly putting together one of the most expensive 75 win teams I've seen in a while. As much as I worry about the Dodgers current SS void, passing on deals like Seager is something I appreciate in retrospect lol |
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Post by sfvega on Dec 2, 2022 22:24:29 GMT -5
Rangers are quietly putting together one of the most expensive 75 win teams I've seen in a while. As much as I worry about the Dodgers current SS void, passing on deals like Seager is something I appreciate in retrospect lol Seager as a prospect had a sky-high ceiling, and he was really clutch those last couple of years with the Doyers. But I think in total, he's little more than an above-average bat but a very good fielder. In the long run, that contract is not great. Especially in a middling line-up and a big park. LA should be fine with someone like Xander or just treading water with Lux until they find a suitable replacement. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 2, 2022 23:27:54 GMT -5
My ideal signings for the Phillies:
If they don't wanna splash with Rodon or Verlander, Bassitt and Taillon would be two great signings to sure up the starting pitching depth. They're already connected to Taillon and that'd be a good signing. I just hope they can get a Bassitt too
They need to get Trea, and I think they get Trea easier with that pitching path, if they don't get him it's gonna suck, though the Shortstop pool this year is deep as hell and a Xander or Dansy Swanson would be fine, but I think Trea's the one guy the Phillies really need to sign and then fill in the rest.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 3, 2022 11:30:42 GMT -5
This is what people were saying last year early in November. It'll come together. until it fell apart down the stretch (which was telegraphed despite the high win total) I will gladly trade 10-12 less wins for a squad more suited to win in October. There's really no such thing as a team "more suited to win in October"; people don't like to face it, but the reality is that the playoffs, in particular in MLB, are largely a crapshoot. Best thing you can do is put the best team possible together, then hope they don't hit any snags or face a team that gets super hot at the right time, that kind of thing. Like, yeah, Philly had a great playoff run, but I also don't think Philly's a very well put together team (not bad, mind you); however, they're definitely a team that put everything together at the right time. The Mets ran out of gas at the wrong time. That'll just happen sometimes. As for Jake...eh. Dude was an absolute privilege to watch for years, but now there's a genuine question about his health and durability and, honestly, the Mets have basically always been terrible at consistently winning his starts, anyway (no fault of Jake's, obviously). Take the money, spread it around, come back strong. There's no way to paint losing a pitcher as great as deGrom as a good thing, but no reason why this has to derail the team at all. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 3, 2022 12:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by ghost on Dec 3, 2022 14:15:01 GMT -5
Bryan Reynolds from the Pirates has requested a trade. He would help a lot of teams. Usually don’t see public trade requests in baseball but being stuck on the Pirates in your prime has to be frustrating. Beautiful stadium and strong fanbase when the team is good but owner is beyond cheap.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 3, 2022 14:58:36 GMT -5
Bryan Reynolds from the Pirates has requested a trade. He would help a lot of teams. Usually don’t see public trade requests in baseball but being stuck on the Pirates in your prime has to be frustrating. Beautiful stadium and strong fanbase when the team is good but owner is beyond cheap. Was just talking about this with other Mets fans: for years, I would say "I don't need to see the Mets spend like the Yankees; if I wanted the Mets to be more like the Yankees, I could just go and be a Yankees fan." Well, now, obviously the Mets have a hugely deep-pocketed owner, and the expectation is they'll just about always be at the top of league spending. For some Mets fans there's a bit of culture shock that comes with this, and I honestly get why. That all said...good God, do I ever have less trouble with the big spending these days, because my ire and loathing is now mostly directed at these penny-pinching swindlers who run so many of the small market clubs around baseball, always running around screaming poverty all while using their clubs as personal ATMs, bilking cities for new buildings to up the club's market value, then selling at a massive profit. Screw all of those guys. Like, seriously, with their combined histories, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh should be baseball meccas. Oakland is home to some of the greatest and more colorful teams in the history of the league. Miami is a huge market with a baseball-mad Cuban population. Kansas City is now the home of the collected history of the Negro Leagues. But instead these greedy swine are strangling the passion out of their fanbases, all while in some cases LITERALLY SAYING "where else are you gonna go?" Well, a lot of those fans have been answering: they've gone to sports with salary caps and floors and/or enforced parity, because these cheapskates have made baseball an afterthought for many of them. It's pathetic, and MLB allowing it is helping to kill the game. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 3, 2022 15:32:51 GMT -5
Bryan Reynolds from the Pirates has requested a trade. He would help a lot of teams. Usually don’t see public trade requests in baseball but being stuck on the Pirates in your prime has to be frustrating. Beautiful stadium and strong fanbase when the team is good but owner is beyond cheap. Was just talking about this with other Mets fans: for years, I would say "I don't need to see the Mets spend like the Yankees; if I wanted the Mets to be more like the Yankees, I could just go and be a Yankees fan." Well, now, obviously the Mets have a hugely deep-pocketed owner, and the expectation is they'll just about always be at the top of league spending. For some Mets fans there's a bit of culture shock that comes with this, and I honestly get why. That all said...good God, do I ever have less trouble with the big spending these days, because my ire and loathing is now mostly directed at these penny-pinching swindlers who run so many of the small market clubs around baseball, always running around screaming poverty all while using their clubs as personal ATMs, bilking cities for new buildings to up the club's market value, then selling at a massive profit. Screw all of those guys. Like, seriously, with their combined histories, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh should be baseball meccas. Oakland is home to some of the greatest and more colorful teams in the history of the league. Miami is a huge market with a baseball-mad Cuban population. Kansas City is now the home of the collected history of the Negro Leagues. But instead these greedy swine are strangling the passion out of their fanbases, all while in some cases LITERALLY SAYING "where else are you gonna go?" Well, a lot of those fans have been answering: they've gone to sports with salary caps and floors and/or enforced parity, because these cheapskates have made baseball an afterthought for many of them. It's pathetic, and MLB allowing it is helping to kill the game. As I have been saying for years, there should be a floor. No way should a MLB owned team have a payroll under $75M at the least. If you can't pay it, you don't deserve to own the team. The individual teams own billion dollar MLB contracts and in cases of Miami they literally fleeced the City by having them pay for the stadium Sure, you're going to have some 5 year stretches where obviously you are going to want to be at the minimum as you build a team but their should be a floor. It is not fair some owners get to put in a shitty product and still reap rewards of getting money on the back end |
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 3, 2022 15:46:48 GMT -5
Was just talking about this with other Mets fans: for years, I would say "I don't need to see the Mets spend like the Yankees; if I wanted the Mets to be more like the Yankees, I could just go and be a Yankees fan." Well, now, obviously the Mets have a hugely deep-pocketed owner, and the expectation is they'll just about always be at the top of league spending. For some Mets fans there's a bit of culture shock that comes with this, and I honestly get why. That all said...good God, do I ever have less trouble with the big spending these days, because my ire and loathing is now mostly directed at these penny-pinching swindlers who run so many of the small market clubs around baseball, always running around screaming poverty all while using their clubs as personal ATMs, bilking cities for new buildings to up the club's market value, then selling at a massive profit. Screw all of those guys. Like, seriously, with their combined histories, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh should be baseball meccas. Oakland is home to some of the greatest and more colorful teams in the history of the league. Miami is a huge market with a baseball-mad Cuban population. Kansas City is now the home of the collected history of the Negro Leagues. But instead these greedy swine are strangling the passion out of their fanbases, all while in some cases LITERALLY SAYING "where else are you gonna go?" Well, a lot of those fans have been answering: they've gone to sports with salary caps and floors and/or enforced parity, because these cheapskates have made baseball an afterthought for many of them. It's pathetic, and MLB allowing it is helping to kill the game. As I have been saying for years, there should be a floor. No way should a MLB owned team have a payroll under $75M at the least. If you can't pay it, you don't deserve to own the team. The individual teams own billion dollar MLB contracts and in cases of Miami they literally fleeced the City by having them pay for the stadium Sure, you're going to have some 5 year stretches where obviously you are going to want to be at the minimum as you build a team but their should be a floor. It is not fair some owners get to put in a shitty product and still reap rewards of getting money on the back end Hell, my solution is to just nationalize the game and cut the owners out altogether, but I'm also prone to flights of fancy. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 3, 2022 15:53:18 GMT -5
As I have been saying for years, there should be a floor. No way should a MLB owned team have a payroll under $75M at the least. If you can't pay it, you don't deserve to own the team. The individual teams own billion dollar MLB contracts and in cases of Miami they literally fleeced the City by having them pay for the stadium Sure, you're going to have some 5 year stretches where obviously you are going to want to be at the minimum as you build a team but their should be a floor. It is not fair some owners get to put in a shitty product and still reap rewards of getting money on the back end Hell, my solution is to just nationalize the game and cut the owners out altogether, but I'm also prone to flights of fancy. Manfred, would have a whole heart attack |
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 3, 2022 17:00:54 GMT -5
Hell, my solution is to just nationalize the game and cut the owners out altogether, but I'm also prone to flights of fancy. Manfred, would have a whole heart attack He’d hopefully have it while on the unemployment line. |
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Post by ghost on Dec 3, 2022 17:41:35 GMT -5
Bryan Reynolds from the Pirates has requested a trade. He would help a lot of teams. Usually don’t see public trade requests in baseball but being stuck on the Pirates in your prime has to be frustrating. Beautiful stadium and strong fanbase when the team is good but owner is beyond cheap. Was just talking about this with other Mets fans: for years, I would say "I don't need to see the Mets spend like the Yankees; if I wanted the Mets to be more like the Yankees, I could just go and be a Yankees fan." Well, now, obviously the Mets have a hugely deep-pocketed owner, and the expectation is they'll just about always be at the top of league spending. For some Mets fans there's a bit of culture shock that comes with this, and I honestly get why. That all said...good God, do I ever have less trouble with the big spending these days, because my ire and loathing is now mostly directed at these penny-pinching swindlers who run so many of the small market clubs around baseball, always running around screaming poverty all while using their clubs as personal ATMs, bilking cities for new buildings to up the club's market value, then selling at a massive profit. Screw all of those guys. Like, seriously, with their combined histories, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh should be baseball meccas. Oakland is home to some of the greatest and more colorful teams in the history of the league. Miami is a huge market with a baseball-mad Cuban population. Kansas City is now the home of the collected history of the Negro Leagues. But instead these greedy swine are strangling the passion out of their fanbases, all while in some cases LITERALLY SAYING "where else are you gonna go?" Well, a lot of those fans have been answering: they've gone to sports with salary caps and floors and/or enforced parity, because these cheapskates have made baseball an afterthought for many of them. It's pathetic, and MLB allowing it is helping to kill the game. Yeah it's a shame what small market owners are doing. They eat off TV deals, revenue sharing, etc, and hardly put anything back into the team, and long term that is going to hurt their markets. The fans they are pushing away today may not come back if/when they ever become good again. Even the Guardians who are actually good and well run are having attendance issues, and there's no doubt that cheap ownership is a big reason for it. Unfortunately the best hope for small market teams aside from getting good ownership is to have smart front offices, but other than the Rays and Guardians, that's simply not happening with teams like the Pirates, Marlins, Royals, Reds, etc. I guess the Brewers are pretty well run as well, but their window is closing fast with Burnes and Woodruff only having two more years of control. I kinda hope the Pirates hold on to Reynolds as long as they make a sincere effort to get better. They are finally starting to get a glimmer of hope from the farm system, and they did lock up Ke'Bryan Hayes long term. But I really don't blame Reynolds for wanting out. |
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