2023 MLB Thread: Texas Rangers World Series Champions

[MrElijah]

Jul 26, 2023 15:47:54 GMT -5 fw91 said:

I mean has there been a commissioner in any of the big 4 that the fans didn't complain about?

Least complaints? Maybe David Stern?

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Mets and Rangers are working on a Max Scherzer deal apparently. Mets smart to try to get off Max and Verlander’s contracts if they can. You know Cohen will reinvest it next year.

[fw91]

Jul 29, 2023 16:19:33 GMT -5 @ghost said:

Mets and Rangers are working on a Max Scherzer deal apparently. Mets smart to try to get off Max and Verlander’s contracts if they can. You know Cohen will reinvest it next year.

besides Ohtani? Who's available?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Jul 29, 2023 14:55:39 GMT -5 MrElijah said:

Jul 26, 2023 15:47:54 GMT -5 fw91 said:

I mean has there been a commissioner in any of the big 4 that the fans didn't complain about?

Least complaints? Maybe David Stern?

Stern had a lot of complaints. His last few years were not good especially when the lockout happened

[fw91]

looks like Scherzer has nixed the deal.

He...wants to stay... with the Mets?

EDIT: Apparently I was mislead. No word either way yet.

[animaniac]

Martino says Max has waived it.

Luisangel Acuna (Ronald's brother) not in the lineup and minor league pitcher Brock Porter just pulled from a 3 hit shutout. Both are top ten prospects for the Rangers and Acuna is a top 100 overall prospect.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The Rangers must have some blackmail on Cohen to have pulled off deGrom AND Max from the Mets

Also love watching the Mets and their fans go from WORLD SERIES BABY to "Well we're getting some awesome prospects for the future!" in like three and a half months, this might be the most brutal Metting I've seen in ages...

[fw91]

Jul 29, 2023 17:51:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The Rangers must have some blackmail on Cohen to have pulled off deGrom AND Max from the Mets

Also love watching the Mets and their fans go from WORLD SERIES BABY to "Well we're getting some awesome prospects for the future!" in like three and a half months, this might be the most brutal Metting I've seen in ages...

no body claimed world series. The smart fan (cynical douches like me, not idiots who cream over just beating the yankees and trumpets) knew not enough was done to fix the issues that became apparent down the stretch last season. Granted we didn't think it would be THIS bad, but we kept things in perspective.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Jul 29, 2023 17:33:44 GMT -5 animaniac said:

Martino says Max has waived it.

Luisangel Acuna (Ronald's brother) not in the lineup and minor league pitcher Brock Porter just pulled from a 3 hit shutout. Both are top ten prospects for the Rangers and Acuna is a top 100 overall prospect.

Acuna is quite the haul himself for Scherzer.

[animaniac]

Jul 29, 2023 18:12:31 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Jul 29, 2023 17:33:44 GMT -5 animaniac said:

Martino says Max has waived it.

Luisangel Acuna (Ronald's brother) not in the lineup and minor league pitcher Brock Porter just pulled from a 3 hit shutout. Both are top ten prospects for the Rangers and Acuna is a top 100 overall prospect.

Acuna is quite the haul himself for Scherzer.

Martino says he's in the deal.

Acuña brothers battle incoming!

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Jul 29, 2023 18:15:15 GMT -5 animaniac said:

Jul 29, 2023 18:12:31 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Acuna is quite the haul himself for Scherzer.

Martino says he's in the deal.

Acuña brothers battle incoming!

Hell of a player. Mets really lucked out having someone bail them out like that when everyone knows their asses are selling whoever they can.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Also just gonna say as an Angels fan, yes... Yes we know.

[HMARK Center]

Deal's not official yet, but it's likely going to happen.

That said, Jesus, my interest in the Mets was at rock bottom this year (and has been at that level way, way too frequently since 2017), but go ahead and call me crazy, the team actually doing deals for the future in the wake of this disappointing season has me more interested in watching them than I've been at any point since, I don't know, mid-May or something.

In all seriousness, I get that Cohen came in saying he wanted to get this team a title in 3-5 years once he bought the team, but holy shit you can't comprehend how badly things were run under the Wilpons; all the investments he's made in the organization since buying it outright are going to take time to bear full fruit. The team trading for big potential young prospects and having a bunch of money to reinvest in the big league roster for next year actually has me more interested than I've been in awhile (I was one of the assholes watching them last September going "oh no, no, no, they're gonna fall apart, oh shit oh shit oh SHIT!" in real time).

Basically, if they save any money on this deal I'm hoping they look into getting Yoshinobu Yamamoto for next year once he posts from Japan, get Diaz back healthy, fix this shit up.

Jul 29, 2023 18:17:59 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Jul 29, 2023 18:15:15 GMT -5 animaniac said:

Martino says he's in the deal.

Acuña brothers battle incoming!

Hell of a player. Mets really lucked out having someone bail them out like that when everyone knows their asses are selling whoever they can.

The advantage they have with Scherzer (and Verlander, if they get an offer they can't refuse) is that there's added term on those contracts, albeit in the form of a player option for Scherzer, though I'm sure any trade would involve hammering out how to deal with that.

Like, the Mets aren't going to tear the whole team down at this stage; there's an argument they should've done that the moment Cohen became full owner, but so long as they've got Alonso/McNeil/Lindor/Nimmo/Diaz/Senga/etc. they're not going to just strip things down to the floorboards. As long as that's the case, they do have the leverage of "Well, y'know, we don't have to trade Scherzer or Verlander, we intend to at least compete next year, so if you want them you've gotta really show us..."

[animaniac]

Now they're saying Max hasn't waived it yet lol.

Trade deadline season at it's finest.

[fw91]

Jul 29, 2023 18:41:51 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Deal's not official yet, but it's likely going to happen.

That said, Jesus, my interest in the Mets was at rock bottom this year (and has been at that level way, way too frequently since 2017), but go ahead and call me crazy, the team actually doing deals for the future in the wake of this disappointing season has me more interested in watching them than I've been at any point since, I don't know, mid-May or something.

In all seriousness, I get that Cohen came in saying he wanted to get this team a title in 3-5 years once he bought the team, but holy shit you can't comprehend how badly things were run under the Wilpons; all the investments he's made in the organization since buying it outright are going to take time to bear full fruit. The team trading for big potential young prospects and having a bunch of money to reinvest in the big league roster for next year actually has me more interested than I've been in awhile (I was one of the assholes watching them last September going "oh no, no, no, they're gonna fall apart, oh shit oh shit oh SHIT!" in real time).

Basically, if they save any money on this deal I'm hoping they look into getting Yoshinobu Yamamoto for next year once he posts from Japan, get Diaz back healthy, fix this shit up.

Jul 29, 2023 18:17:59 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Hell of a player. Mets really lucked out having someone bail them out like that when everyone knows their asses are selling whoever they can.

The advantage they have with Scherzer (and Verlander, if they get an offer they can't refuse) is that there's added term on those contracts, albeit in the form of a player option for Scherzer, though I'm sure any trade would involve hammering out how to deal with that.

Like, the Mets aren't going to tear the whole team down at this stage; there's an argument they should've done that the moment Cohen became full owner, but so long as they've got Alonso/McNeil/Lindor/Nimmo/Diaz/Senga/etc. they're not going to just strip things down to the floorboards. As long as that's the case, they do have the leverage of "Well, y'know, we don't have to trade Scherzer or Verlander, we intend to at least compete next year, so if you want them you've gotta really show us..."

Do we have to keep Mcneil? He doesn't drive in runs even when his average isn't doody.

[animaniac]

Deal is done. Scherzer and cash for Luisangel Acuña

[fw91]

can we sell Carlos Carrasco for a 12 pack of diet coke?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

This is best course of action for Mets to compete in longer term with this soft reset

Trade McNeil, Carrasco and JV if they can and they will clear some money and at get back some talent

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Jul 29, 2023 16:48:07 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Jul 29, 2023 14:55:39 GMT -5 MrElijah said:

Least complaints? Maybe David Stern?

Stern had a lot of complaints. His last few years were not good especially when the lockout happened

Yeah, but still probably the most important commissioner in NBA history, and at worst one of the top 10 most important people in NBA history. He grew the NBA, and went all in on making it a global game.

Jul 29, 2023 19:42:15 GMT -5 animaniac said:

Deal is done. Scherzer and cash for Luisangel Acuña

Great deal for the Mets. Scherzer's sucked this season, and costs a lot.

Guessing Verlander winds up with the Dodgers.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Jul 29, 2023 19:47:00 GMT -5 Jedi-El of Tomorrow said:

Jul 29, 2023 16:48:07 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Stern had a lot of complaints. His last few years were not good especially when the lockout happened

Yeah, but still probably the most important commissioner in NBA history, and at worst one of the top 10 most important people in NBA history. He grew the NBA, and went all in on making it a global game.

Without question his legacy is more than secure