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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 8, 2022 23:58:33 GMT -5
Or he would have ended up like Scorpio sky, a guy who got multiple pushes that this board responded to with months of video game memes, even after he started to find something more interesting for a brief spell. Not only are you relying on a situation you just made up, but you're also writing it off as though there aren't major name indie stalwarts who got signed in AEW and fell pretty fast from grace/were rejected from the start. That's a silly comparison, Scorpio is 14 years older than Theory. I brought up the Four Pillars specifically because a lot of the hype in both scenarios was based off them being young with loads of potential. Of course, I'd also argue that Theory is much more talented than Scorpio, but that's far more subjective. I'm not comparing Scorpio and Theory as raw, actual talents, but as two guys with indie careers who got pushed on network television and ended up being pretty firmly rejected. Being young wouldn't necessarily insulate the guy from the possibility of rejection, and the trap of "if he was in AEW everyone would suck up to him" is just in general assuming bad faith of everyone you disagree with and using that to dismiss them. I don't see much in him at all and if AEW tried to make him happen I'd be pretty down on it, too.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 9, 2022 0:09:20 GMT -5
It’s not like AEW has been immune from people having teacher’s pet stink on them. Hell, Sammy Guevara could almost be nearly a 1:1 comparison.
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Post by 06vwgti on Nov 9, 2022 0:26:38 GMT -5
Im just mixed on Theory, haven't been a fan of his character on Raw when during the pandemic era and also this go-around as Vince's pet project. His ring work is fine, but it feels generic so it doesn't stand out. See him as someone that should be a solid midcard guy, but not in the main event spot.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Nov 9, 2022 2:20:25 GMT -5
Theory should have cashed the briefcase in on the 24/7 Championship and had Nikki Cross beat the shit out of him.
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Post by y4j1981 on Nov 9, 2022 2:46:01 GMT -5
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 9, 2022 3:55:55 GMT -5
Another thing - Theory failed his cash in on a Raw in Wilkes-Barre in front of 5000 people. He could have at least lost it on PPV in front of a crowd three times that size.
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Post by pinja on Nov 9, 2022 5:28:19 GMT -5
He will overcome this if it becomes part of a storyline that is supposed to elevate him. Not to further embarrass him. Billy Gunn never got rid of the stigma because he never deviated from being plain old Billy Gunn. Of course I would need trust in them to go a fitting route. Like making him Orton's protege to become a psychotic heel.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 9, 2022 5:39:21 GMT -5
One thing I do know - that if someone on July 2nd had pitched that the MitB case should be cashed in on the US Title and that cash in should fail, that idea would have been panned by almost everyone.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 9, 2022 6:46:41 GMT -5
We’re pretty much good so long as Theory doesn’t switch to a poor man’s Liberace gimmick, with like Nathan Frazier as his chauffeur.
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Post by XIII on Nov 9, 2022 7:46:28 GMT -5
We’re pretty much good so long as Theory doesn’t switch to a poor man’s Liberace gimmick, with like Nathan Frazier as his chauffeur. Some people said that he was too entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2022 9:37:01 GMT -5
We’re pretty much good so long as Theory doesn’t switch to a poor man’s Liberace gimmick, with like Nathan Frazier as his chauffeur. I feel like that gimmick could've worked if it was somebody else. The reason people didn't like it was because it was a straight guy, right? But a flamboyant piano player who wears furry coats and a bunch of jewellery... That could work.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 9, 2022 10:06:00 GMT -5
Theory went 4-16-0 as the MITB holder, and one of those wins wasn't really on TV, it was on YouTube at the WM ticket on-sale event.
In comparison, Damien Sandow went 11-17-0.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 9, 2022 10:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 9, 2022 10:21:40 GMT -5
*insert big goober picture here* What a goober
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 9, 2022 10:36:54 GMT -5
Theory went 4-16-0 as the MITB holder, and one of those wins wasn't really on TV, it was on YouTube at the WM ticket on-sale event. In comparison, Damien Sandow went 11-17-0. Apparently when they decided to give Sandow the case, Vince thought that it didn't matter how many matches he lost while he had the contract, considering he was an "uncrowned champion". Months down the line, Vince didn't think that Sandow had enough credibility to win the Championship off Cena due to how many matches he lost.
Wonder if a similar thing happened to Theory, Trips thinking it doesn't matter how many matches Theory loses, then sometime in September comes to the realization "oh f***, he's got to cash in on Roman......".
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 9, 2022 11:00:27 GMT -5
Theory went 4-16-0 as the MITB holder, and one of those wins wasn't really on TV, it was on YouTube at the WM ticket on-sale event. In comparison, Damien Sandow went 11-17-0. Apparently when they decided to give Sandow the case, Vince thought that it didn't matter how many matches he lost while he had the contract, considering he was an "uncrowned champion". Months down the line, Vince didn't think that Sandow had enough credibility to win the Championship off Cena due to how many matches he lost.
Wonder if a similar thing happened to Theory, Trips thinking it doesn't matter how many matches Theory loses, then sometime in September comes to the realization "oh f***, he's got to cash in on Roman......".
I don’t think Trips was really interested in Theory being anywhere near the world title picture at this point in his career.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 9, 2022 11:08:06 GMT -5
Apparently when they decided to give Sandow the case, Vince thought that it didn't matter how many matches he lost while he had the contract, considering he was an "uncrowned champion". Months down the line, Vince didn't think that Sandow had enough credibility to win the Championship off Cena due to how many matches he lost.
Wonder if a similar thing happened to Theory, Trips thinking it doesn't matter how many matches Theory loses, then sometime in September comes to the realization "oh f***, he's got to cash in on Roman......".
I don’t think Trips was really interested in Theory being anywhere near the world title picture at this point in his career. Neither was most of the WWE fanbase.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 9, 2022 11:15:57 GMT -5
I don’t think Trips was really interested in Theory being anywhere near the world title picture at this point in his career. Neither was most of the WWE fanbase. True, true. So now he can grow more organically into the position, if he can, without the chosen one stink attached to him. Win, win.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 9, 2022 11:18:04 GMT -5
In conclusion poor Otis... had his dream gal, had the case and lost it all. Someone give him a ham for me.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 9, 2022 16:25:00 GMT -5
The doofy picture of Theory is funnier now cuz he's got the US title there lmao
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