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Post by Gawk Rivers on Nov 14, 2022 23:09:04 GMT -5
So it's kinda hilarious that WWE's been like pulling teeth trying to make Mustafa Ali The Ultimate Underdog happen to no avail, including tonight, but then Dolph Ziggler gets the exact reaction that they've been trying to get Ali and then some against Austin Theory. What the f*** dude lmao
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Nov 14, 2022 23:10:41 GMT -5
And it was a really good match too! I've never heard a crowd get that loud for an AUSTIN THEORY false finish in my f***ing life! I never thought I ever would! LET ALONE LIKE 3 OF THEM
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 23:11:33 GMT -5
I've never been more right about something than I was about Dolph being better as a face. No matter how stale or boring he gets, he always knows how to get the crowds into him. You have to respect that, even if it's fun to dunk on him sometimes.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Nov 14, 2022 23:22:17 GMT -5
I've never been more right about something than I was about Dolph being better as a face. No matter how stale or boring he gets, he always knows how to get the crowds into him. You have to respect that, even if it's fun to dunk on him sometimes. I genuinely think they should start pushing him again WAY more after tonight. WWE needs more babyfaces that reliably get good reception (or else u get Kross vs. Moss 2, 3, and 4) and Dolph is 1000% that guy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 23:23:43 GMT -5
I've never been more right about something than I was about Dolph being better as a face. No matter how stale or boring he gets, he always knows how to get the crowds into him. You have to respect that, even if it's fun to dunk on him sometimes. I genuinely think they should start pushing him again WAY more after tonight. WWE needs more babyfaces that reliably get good reception (or else u get Kross vs. Moss 2, 3, and 4) and Dolph is 1000% that guy. It's unreal to me how often this guy's had the rug pulled out from under him. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Nov 14, 2022 23:24:50 GMT -5
*checks Dolph Ziggler's patches*
You mean Megadeth.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 14, 2022 23:26:04 GMT -5
It feels like we're getting closer to Survivor Series 2014 Dolph again somehow which rules
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Nov 14, 2022 23:27:53 GMT -5
It feels like we're getting closer to Survivor Series 2014 Dolph again somehow which rules Every 7 years it's Dolph season. Literally I just realized last time there was a Dolph resurgence was 2016. |
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Nov 14, 2022 23:37:31 GMT -5
*checks Dolph Ziggler's patches* You mean Megadeth.  |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 14, 2022 23:55:39 GMT -5
I just gotta say.
Ali f***ing sucks. Lol. They’ve been trying to make this dude a thing in like 4 different gimmicks. Enough.
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Nov 15, 2022 0:27:31 GMT -5
*checks Dolph Ziggler's patches* You mean Megadeth. HE CHANGED IT!!!! My previously insult is now invalid. (also you can tell how long it's been since I watched a Ziggler match) |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 15, 2022 3:16:48 GMT -5
Part of the reason I hate Dolph so much is his ability to make people care about him. It is key to his longevity and is totally how he managed to Mick Foley himself
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Nov 15, 2022 3:33:24 GMT -5
Part of the reason I hate Dolph so much is his ability to make people care about him. It is key to his longevity and is totally how he managed to Mick Foley himself “OOOOOOOH, if he wasn’t still actually good at his job, maybe I’d finally be rid of him!” *shakes fist* |
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Post by dreidemy on Nov 15, 2022 4:33:26 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler is amazing, I love that he actually won the NXT title earlier this year and he's actually getting some screen time
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 15, 2022 4:58:10 GMT -5
Part of the reason I hate Dolph so much is his ability to make people care about him. It is key to his longevity and is totally how he managed to Mick Foley himself “OOOOOOOH, if he wasn’t still actually good at his job, maybe I’d finally be rid of him!” *shakes fist* Exactly! Although I no longer watch WWE so they can do what they like with him tbf |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 15, 2022 8:04:03 GMT -5
Dolph is one of those guys where when he's not getting TV time, you miss him. He shows up again for a few weeks, cuts a promo like "If I get five seconds or five minutes, I'm that damn good every single time" and then you get excited and go "oh yeah, he IS that good."
Then, after a few weeks you realize he's really only got one character trait - "overlooked" - which gets old after awhile. For whatever reason, the dude doesn't have top guy energy to me, but he's clearly a good babyface. I wouldn't mind seeing more of him, but maybe in a babyface tag team where he could be the hot tag. That feels like it'd be a good role for him now. For instance, I think Gable and Ziggler might be a fun odd couple tag team after this Alpha Academy stuff runs its course.
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Post by Killah Ray on Nov 15, 2022 8:50:20 GMT -5
I just gotta say. Ali f***ing sucks. Lol. They’ve been trying to make this dude a thing in like 4 different gimmicks. Enough. His greatest accomplishment was getting injured and leading the way to Kofi Mania.... |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Nov 15, 2022 9:05:49 GMT -5
I just gotta say. Ali f***ing sucks. Lol. They’ve been trying to make this dude a thing in like 4 different gimmicks. Enough. They’ve barely ever tried with Ali. You guys know what that big push actually looks like, and he’s never gotten it. He’s literally the ONLY man on the RAW roster (Dexter Lumis would apply here too, but technically he’s a free agent in kayfabe) to have not won literally any belt or had any accomplishment in WWE, being in that phantom zone of being not good enough for the proper belts, but too good for the 24/7 belt. Yet here we are, seemingly ready to give Dolph Ziggler another whirl, some 17 years and 800-something TV matches into his career. Nothing against Ziggler, but goddamn, he’s actually won stuff, I’m sure we can spare a couple of months for some kind of proper run with Ali instead. |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 15, 2022 9:43:36 GMT -5
I just gotta say. Ali f***ing sucks. Lol. They’ve been trying to make this dude a thing in like 4 different gimmicks. Enough. They’ve barely ever tried with Ali. You guys know what that big push actually looks like, and he’s never gotten it. He’s literally the ONLY man on the RAW roster (Dexter Lumis would apply here too, but technically he’s a free agent in kayfabe) to have not won literally any belt or had any accomplishment in WWE, being in that phantom zone of being not good enough for the proper belts, but too good for the 24/7 belt. Yet here we are, seemingly ready to give Dolph Ziggler another whirl, some 17 years and 800-something TV matches into his career. Nothing against Ziggler, but goddamn, he’s actually won stuff, I’m sure we can spare a couple of months for some kind of proper run with Ali instead. Winning a belt isn’t the only indication of a push. They’ve repacked Ali a couple of times now, as a face, as a heel and dude just doesn’t have the personality to get anything going. It’s always crickets when he shows up |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 15, 2022 9:48:30 GMT -5
They’ve barely ever tried with Ali. You guys know what that big push actually looks like, and he’s never gotten it. He’s literally the ONLY man on the RAW roster (Dexter Lumis would apply here too, but technically he’s a free agent in kayfabe) to have not won literally any belt or had any accomplishment in WWE, being in that phantom zone of being not good enough for the proper belts, but too good for the 24/7 belt. Yet here we are, seemingly ready to give Dolph Ziggler another whirl, some 17 years and 800-something TV matches into his career. Nothing against Ziggler, but goddamn, he’s actually won stuff, I’m sure we can spare a couple of months for some kind of proper run with Ali instead. Winning a belt isn’t the only indication of a push. They’ve repacked Ali a couple of times now, as a face, as a heel and dude just doesn’t have the personality to get anything going. It’s always crickets when he shows up The guy has a personality and can talk. They just literally don't give him a chance to show it on TV. He's done countless promos on Twitter that show the guy knows how to talk and could be a player in the company. There was a real chance he was going to be slated for a title match at Mania against Bryan and the crowd seemed ready for it at the time. They've just never let the Ali that you see on other platforms onto TV. Is he a world champ? Maybe not. But he should be perceived as more of a threat than he is right now. I'm hopeful he tears it up on Friday against Ricochet and can build some momentum off that. |
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