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Post by lavelleuk22 on Dec 7, 2022 6:01:39 GMT -5
If the roster (90 percent of which have done absolutely nothing of note and couldn't draw money with green crayons) isn't at least listening to advice from a 40 year veteran who is one of the most respected veterans of the modern era, then they truly are empty headed idiots. It never hurts to listen to other perspectives, especially when starting out or if you have stalled out in your career. If you won't listen to Regal, why not Bryan? He has done more and drawn more money in one year than anyone else on the roster has in their entire careers outside of very, very few. He's literally wrestled for free on the indies and wrestled in front of 50k plus at the main event of Wrestlemania, he might have a bit of wisdom to share. I love this take These damn modern wrestlers and lack of drawing ability are fools not to seek advice from a career lower midcard guy who never drew in the hottest era in wrestling I swear if Regal wasn't known for stiff "proper" matches and was a high flyer or something no one else would say this stuff about him Even his most famous WCW match was him getting legit injured and beaten up, which people would hate now, and his most famous WWE stuff was midcard comedy But he talks in a fancy british accent and there's a clip of him yelling vague instructions about stepping onto a certain foot that proves he's amazing Maybe if a locker room of huge wrestling fans in a wrestling company who have actually spent time with him aren't interested in spending extra time with him you shoukd question the man, not the dozens of guys who deemed him not worth learning from?
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 7, 2022 6:19:10 GMT -5
William Regal is going back to WWE, while AEW will have Steven Regal (someone who looks suspiciously like William but with a fake mustache).
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Post by stoptheclocks on Dec 7, 2022 7:32:12 GMT -5
Do people generally go around seeking advice from older co-workers in their own jobs?
I haven't really seen it myself. And a decent proportion of younger pro-wrestlers are nerdy introverts off camera, so it's not overly surprising they aren't seeking out one on one chats with old guys they don't know.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 7, 2022 8:43:20 GMT -5
For the record those rumors don't really make me think anything negative of either Regal or AEW wrestlers if true. I just think there's a difference in philosophies.
I'll just give an example on Regal's podcasts he often says stuff like if a young wrestler is offered an angle or gimmick they don't like they should take it anyways and put 100 percent effort into it, because if they commit they will get over and if you get over you'll get more opportunities but if you don't put it all into the gimmick or you refuse it you may never get another chance. I can see how multiple people in AEW who have been able to make decent careers doing what they wanted in the indies may not take to that advice.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Dec 7, 2022 9:19:03 GMT -5
AEW has tons of veterans for wrestlers to get advice from. Just because they're not getting advice from Regal, doesn't mean they're not getting any from Dustin Rhodes, QT, or any of the other guys that have been there longer and have their own already established groups. Regal and guys like him are of real importance in the WWE system where guys are trained from nothing and never wrestle in front of anything other than a WWE crowd. Many of the AEW wrestlers have learned their craft in front of hundreds of different crowds, while working hundreds of very different wrestlers. They've probably had more words of advice thrown at them from more sources, too. You can always learn in wrestling, but that doesn't have to mean that the learning only happens in one way. I don't think it's disrespectful to prefer to do this your way, or in a way different to how a specific veteran will tell you. Wrestling isn't just one thing, after all. I think this post sums up my feelings on asking for advice. For want of a better term, AEW is basically a Super Indy with great production and a TV deal. A lot of the roster has wrestled all over the world in front of 10 people up to 40,000 people. So, whilst it is always good to talk to someone and get their advice, it’s not always necessary when they have gained as much if not more experience in their careers.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 7, 2022 10:21:02 GMT -5
Do people generally go around seeking advice from older co-workers in their own jobs? I haven't really seen it myself. And a decent proportion of younger pro-wrestlers are nerdy introverts off camera, so it's not overly surprising they aren't seeking out one on one chats with old guys they don't know. Yes. As an accountant I have people older then me who will offer me advice or who I will talk to. I don’t always take their advice as as applying it to the letter but they have years of knowledge that’s worth listening to as you can parse what works for you I’m regards to advice they are dishing out. Not everything will be applied but in a sense you do yourself a disservice not at least listening and I say this as someone who does a lot of shit on my own So with that said. I don’t see harm in asking a vet to watch your match and critique it or ask for pointers every now and again
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Dec 7, 2022 10:45:06 GMT -5
Weren't Regal and Mox really tight? Even if you think the class is worthless, just from a "keep my stock high" perspective, it seems like it'd be wise to attend anything Regal or Bryan put on. This is kind of what I was getting at in my previous two posts, I think. Is it "wise" to attend demonstrations put on by Regal and Bryan because they are accomplished professional wrestlers and you might learn some things that will help you advance in your career as a young wrestler? Absolutely. Is it "wise" to attend demonstrations put on by Regal and Bryan because they're friends with the biggest star in the company, and it will "hurt your stock" if you don't? Well, it really shouldn't be, that's toxic as f***. To that point, I've read Moxley's book and listened to his interviews. I don't think he gives one solitary flying f*** whether people come to him, or anyone else, for advice. He'll give advice if you seek it out, and he'll give constructive criticism, but he's not the type to care about some archaic notion of "respect." He knows he's successful, and that's all he needs. I think that's why he's emerged as such an effective locker room leader for AEW. (Frankly, Roman Reigns is the same way in WWE by all accounts).
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Post by Mecca on Dec 7, 2022 10:52:47 GMT -5
Regal has a ton more value to WWE than he does AEW just because of the differences in those companies. AEW hires people and lets them do their thing basically..
WWE either hires people with no experience or little experience that need constant training and coaching or they hire indy vets and basically tear them down and make them learn the WWE way of doing things. A lot of that is how the WWE became a boring product to me, it doesn't matter if you've worked for 10 years on the top of cards in every country that exists, you come to WWE and you get to start from peg 1. You also have to work the same style everyone else does which doesn't lead to anything interesting at all.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 7, 2022 13:17:12 GMT -5
IF he's WWE bound, it might be because Trips wants him to be the head of development in Europe or he wants to oversee his sons career and wants to be closer to him (he does have health issues). I called it (wants to oversee sons career)
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 7, 2022 13:17:56 GMT -5
TK confirms at his press conference.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 7, 2022 13:27:14 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 7, 2022 13:31:09 GMT -5
I respect that. Glad he’ll be around for another little bit to hopefully put a bow on things storyline wise but he’ll be with his son and that’ll be cool for him. Will miss the hell out of him on AEW TV, though.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 7, 2022 13:34:24 GMT -5
Sounds like Khan handled this one really well, to be fair. Regal wanted out for good reason and Khan let him out and took him off TV early to give him more time. From how it was phrased, it looks like one of those contracts with option years that AEW could have picked up if they want to (that's just my speculation though)
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Dec 7, 2022 13:35:15 GMT -5
TK takes a lot of flack for being impulsive and immature, but he seemingly tends to make the right decisions when it comes to stuff like this.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 7, 2022 13:36:37 GMT -5
So it sounds like Regal signed around a one year deal with an option for AEW to renew/extend it for longer (likely that's the three year deal with a 'but' that Meltzer clumsily alluded to on his radio program). And Regal requested they not do that and Khan agreed.
But it's not technically a release so much as choosing to let the contract expire instead of exercising the option to bring him back. Probably means Regal can technically start at WWE the minute his AEW employment ends (as opposed to being released and potentially having to deal with a non-compete clause).
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 7, 2022 13:36:52 GMT -5
Do people generally go around seeking advice from older co-workers in their own jobs? I haven't really seen it myself. And a decent proportion of younger pro-wrestlers are nerdy introverts off camera, so it's not overly surprising they aren't seeking out one on one chats with old guys they don't know. In my experience no. They might ask a question here and there about a specific thing that they’re not sure about. Bust list people just tend to learn on the job from what I’ve seen.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 7, 2022 13:43:57 GMT -5
Can I just add how much context is added to the period between All Out and Grand Slam that along with the other stuff he was dealing with, TK’s mother had two strokes?
Like, I’m not justifying booking decisions and the like but I can’t imagine what was going through his mind dealing with all that shit.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 7, 2022 13:45:14 GMT -5
Can I just add how much context is added to the period between All Out and Grand Slam that along with the other stuff he was dealing with, TK’s mother had two strokes? Like, I’m not justifying booking decisions and the like but I can’t imagine what was going through his mind dealing with all that shit. Was gonna post that too, Tony mentioned about his mom having health issues so that's been taking a lot of priority
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Post by Mecca on Dec 7, 2022 13:50:44 GMT -5
You know it's kinda funny that people rip on AEW and they let Regal go when if this was WWE you'd get told to f*** off.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 7, 2022 13:52:47 GMT -5
Can I just add how much context is added to the period between All Out and Grand Slam that along with the other stuff he was dealing with, TK’s mother had two strokes? Like, I’m not justifying booking decisions and the like but I can’t imagine what was going through his mind dealing with all that shit. It's why the guy neeeeeeeeds to delegate more. I love Tony Khan and I think many of us wrestling fans wish we WERE Tony Khan. He's living our dream. That said, he's doing too much and it's noticeable how much the guy has aged in the last few years. Dude just looks stressed all the time. It's ok to let go of some stuff. I hope he's doing it now and most of all, hope his mom is OK.
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