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Post by Cyno on Nov 26, 2022 19:45:40 GMT -5
WWF War Zone as mentioned above. Not only did it have a tiny roster, but it was a very weird roster. It was released when the Attitude Era was fully underway in mid-1998, but all the wrestlers and their entrances, attires, music, etc. came straight from the dying gasps of the New Generation Era. Bret Hart being in a WWF game not even a year removed from the Montreal Screwjob was really awkward to say the least lol.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 26, 2022 19:52:08 GMT -5
SVR09 having just about zero legends unless you bought Legends Of Wrestlemania and used the import superstar feature (genuinely good feature, don't get me wrong) that was pretty much designed to stop Legends Of Wrestlemania from flopping was a hilarious move. Buy this busted ass game so you can put the roster in to a much better one and never touch this one again. Then they did that weird-ass thing where they had a legends DLC pack that was entirely made up of people who weren't in Legends of WrestleMania with their outfits being in the CAW mode instead. Why yes, it'd absolutely destroy this game's sales if we were to put in Earthquake, can't have it. Think that same game also had Evan Bourne as DLC but gave so little of a shit that they just flat out put the Dragon Gate logo on his tights. Might be misremembering.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 27, 2022 3:41:49 GMT -5
Actually I want to talk about the Warzone thing since I started watching in around September 1998 and first played it probably a few months later so the whole thing was very weird for me. Whole thing was like, "So who are these Bret Hart and Ahmed Johnson and British Bulldog people and what's up with these Goldust outfits and why is Shawn Michaels a wrestler using the DX theme."
Reminds me of how as someone who didn't really get to order PPVs as a kid I spent ages only knowing the Tombstone from games because Taker didn't really do it on TV a lot during the Attitude Era. I think the first time I actually saw him use it was when I rented the VHS of SummerSlam 1994.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Nov 27, 2022 6:26:08 GMT -5
I remember at the time a lot of furore about SmackDown vs Raw 2008's roster. It was quite small and lacked guys who you'd think were no-brainers to be in it like Shelton Benjamin. It also had pretty much no tag teams except Cryme Tyme. I remember the rumours at the time was that when THQ went into the game to remove Benoit they decided to remove a few others as well. RVD, Shelton Benjamin, Paul London and Brian Kendrick (you know, the team that had held the tag titles for over a year at that point) were notable absences from what I recall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 7:47:12 GMT -5
I can't call it a terrible roster because it was still stacked overall but I remember being disappointed that the first Smackdown v Raw didn't have former WCW guys like Goldberg/Scott Steiner/Kevin Nash/Lance Storm who had all left WWE that year. They were some of my favorites to play as in Here Comes the Pain the previous year. Came in to say pretty much this. Also, no Brock. I understand why they weren't in, but the game just felt a little bland and lifeless. Maybe that was just WWE at the time period. Garrison Cade and Mark Jindrak didn't make up for the lack of Goldberg and Brock.
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 27, 2022 16:36:31 GMT -5
The NES WWF games (WrestleMania and WrestleMania Challenge) had no tag team representation, but I guess that was due to system limits. What do you mean? In Wrestlemania Challege you could do the Mega Powers (Hogan and Savage), the Mega Maniacs (Hogan and Beefcake), the Ultimate Maniacs (Warrior and Savage), 1988 Survivor Series Co Captains (Warrior and Beefcake). The possibilities were endless. Beefcake, Rude and yours truly (playing as YOU but he looked like Bob Backlund) and we were the Sexy Bods. Lol.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 27, 2022 16:40:07 GMT -5
Not really the game's fault, but Just Bring It was a frustrating game due to its November 2001 release date, featuring none of the talent from the Invasion and being a capture of the WWF roster circa Wrestlemania X7. Decent title, but few wrestling games ever felt more outdated to recent happenings than that one. Beat me to it. It was a much improved game but hugely outdated by the time it came out.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 27, 2022 16:52:00 GMT -5
What do you mean? In Wrestlemania Challege you could do the Mega Powers (Hogan and Savage), the Mega Maniacs (Hogan and Beefcake), the Ultimate Maniacs (Warrior and Savage), 1988 Survivor Series Co Captains (Warrior and Beefcake). The possibilities were endless. Beefcake, Rude and yours truly (playing as YOU but he looked like Bob Backlund) and we were the Sexy Bods. Lol. I always kind associated him more with "Jumpin" Jim Brunzell. Generic looking, brown hair, does a dropkick. I remember being annoyed that you had to pick him to do the Super Challange Championship mode where you have to beat all the guys in the game. I remember the key to beating that was going for pins a lot as that would make the computer go into defensive mode which was real important once you got to Hogan and Warrior as they both moved around the ring so fast it was ridiculous. I also found it interesting that Warrior was the final boss instead of Hogan. However I guess it makes sense as the game was made and released during the brief period where they were trying to make Warrior "The Guy" with him also being the one in the title screen as well with the championship belt around his waist.
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Nov 27, 2022 16:56:12 GMT -5
The TNA game had a very bare-bones roster. The AEW one is looking to be the same unless you eventually pay for DLC.
I can't call it a terrible roster because it was still stacked overall but I remember being disappointed that the first Smackdown v Raw didn't have former WCW guys like Goldberg/Scott Steiner/Kevin Nash/Lance Storm who had all left WWE that year. They were some of my favorites to play as in Here Comes the Pain the previous year. oh yes, the game that put the Canadian Destroyer in all its ads, but made Petey Williams (and the move) DLC that was not even accessible for the first few months it was out. DLC was not like it is today, it was not accessible to everyone, so it was such a just a slap in the face
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 27, 2022 17:10:22 GMT -5
Not really the game's fault, but Just Bring It was a frustrating game due to its November 2001 release date, featuring none of the talent from the Invasion and being a capture of the WWF roster circa Wrestlemania X7. Decent title, but few wrestling games ever felt more outdated to recent happenings than that one. Beat me to it. It was a much improved game but hugely outdated by the time it came out. I was at least surprised Jerry Lynn got in. He really lucked out on that.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 27, 2022 17:16:04 GMT -5
SVR09 having just about zero legends unless you bought Legends Of Wrestlemania and used the import superstar feature (genuinely good feature, don't get me wrong) that was pretty much designed to stop Legends Of Wrestlemania from flopping was a hilarious move. Buy this busted ass game so you can put the roster in to a much better one and never touch this one again. Which one was the bad game? Because I don’t think you can put the legends roster in Smackdown vs Raw
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 27, 2022 17:17:02 GMT -5
Tag Team Wrestling only had 4 guys!!!
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Nov 27, 2022 17:36:34 GMT -5
The TNA game had a very bare-bones roster. The AEW one is looking to be the same unless you eventually pay for DLC.
I can't call it a terrible roster because it was still stacked overall but I remember being disappointed that the first Smackdown v Raw didn't have former WCW guys like Goldberg/Scott Steiner/Kevin Nash/Lance Storm who had all left WWE that year. They were some of my favorites to play as in Here Comes the Pain the previous year. oh yes, the game that put the Canadian Destroyer in all its ads, but made Petey Williams (and the move) DLC that was not even accessible for the first few months it was out. DLC was not like it is today, it was not accessible to everyone, so it was such a just a slap in the face The DLC for TNA Impact was hilariously busted too. Like using Petey would just freeze the game or something like that and selecting Curry Man would bring out Christopher Daniels cause presumably that was the model they built off of. Pretty sure it wasn't even available anymore either after only like 3 years. Mike Tenay and Don West were literally the best, most functional DLC pack lmao
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Post by mattyy on Nov 27, 2022 17:48:54 GMT -5
I remember at the time a lot of furore about SmackDown vs Raw 2008's roster. It was quite small and lacked guys who you'd think were no-brainers to be in it like Shelton Benjamin. It also had pretty much no tag teams except Cryme Tyme. I remember the rumours at the time was that when THQ went into the game to remove Benoit they decided to remove a few others as well. RVD, Shelton Benjamin, Paul London and Brian Kendrick (you know, the team that had held the tag titles for over a year at that point) were notable absences from what I recall. It's funny because SvR2009 had like a good almost 20 characters removed going off the audio files on disc, but Miz was one that was also cut from 2008.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Nov 27, 2022 20:18:34 GMT -5
Day of Reckoning 1's roster sucked. Like its sequel, no Lita even though she was active. It makes SmackDown vs. Raw's roster look like HCTP in comparison lol. SmackDown vs Raw 2006. Great game, but the roster is mediocre. The legend selection was pretty good, but the main roster left a lot to be desired. Who wanted to play as Sylvan Grenier? WWF Royal Rumble on Dreamcast. I know it was an arcade game, but 20 wrestlers is paltry. What blew my mind about DOR 1 is that JBL wasn’t on the roster, and he was the f***ing wwe champion when the game was released
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Post by tirtefaa on Nov 27, 2022 20:51:50 GMT -5
Not really the game's fault, but Just Bring It was a frustrating game due to its November 2001 release date, featuring none of the talent from the Invasion and being a capture of the WWF roster circa Wrestlemania X7. Decent title, but few wrestling games ever felt more outdated to recent happenings than that one. Oh, there was definitely a lot of problems with that game. Not only was the roster a downgrade from the diverse roster of KYR, but as mentioned a lot of the guys who had joined the company just weren't there. But you had Dean Malenko, who had pretty much disappeared from TV, Jerry Lynn, who also disappeared very quickly from TV after debuting and Fred Durst, who was only in the game so they could use his song. I'm kind of surprised they didn't find a way to squeeze DDP in there, since he did only debut a few weeks after Lynn from what I remember. But yes, it felt very dated by the time it was released. They should have just axed the commentary, since they must have known it was terrible and a detriment to the game. Story mode was also very rushed. Not that I want to see a bunch of simulated matches like the previous game, but it was nice to play a full year or more of season instead of it being over within 6 or so matches. I would have preferred if they took an additional 6 months to iron out a lot of these problems, but most notably the amount of space it took up on a memory card.
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Post by tirtefaa on Nov 27, 2022 21:09:05 GMT -5
SmackDown vs Raw 2006. Great game, but the roster is mediocre. The legend selection was pretty good, but the main roster left a lot to be desired. Who wanted to play as Sylvan Grenier? Yeah, you get three Hulk Hogan representations, when it could have easily just been a palette swap. In order to get Jake Roberts, you had to have the PSP version of the game to transfer over, which was ridiculous. Hassan and Daivari were the default tag team champions in the game, which was funny since Hassan was already gone by that point. The WWE roster in general was pretty bad anyways, so like every tag team in the game was bland such as the Bashams and La Resistance were the only teams. The Dudleys I think were initially in the game, but we're cut when they were released. Spike somehow made it in the game though, if you wanted to play as a shirtless Spike Dudley. Did anyone play as Mark Jindrak either? Man, was this a bad roster in 2005. The story mode was also very repetitive and short. The biggest saving factor for me was the Create A Wrestler, which made me completely abandon the standard roster in favor of a roster of guys that I made.
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Post by J. Hova on Nov 27, 2022 21:15:29 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, War Zone is great since it gives us Ahmed and his mastery of the English language.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Nov 27, 2022 21:18:57 GMT -5
I remember the first Smackdown vs Raws Roster being a bit underwhelming. A lot of names that made their debut that year were missing.. Mark Jindrak, Garrison Cade and Rene Dupree were the only new names. Eugene who had been a big part of WWE that year was absent from the game. Yet guys like A Train and Scotty 2 Hotty who were barely seen on TV were in. I remember being pretty disappointed with the roster. Also one of the rare WWE games where Stone Cold Steve Austin is not in the game.
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 27, 2022 21:28:22 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, War Zone is great since it gives us Ahmed and his mastery of the English language. Hey, my son was 5-6 years old at the time he started learning games and this was the start. Win as Ahmed Johnson, unlock "Ego Mode", where your head grows with each successive punch. Win as the Headbangers, unlock "Gross Mode", where you burp and fart with every strike. Oh man, we had such a blast!
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