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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 27, 2022 21:41:37 GMT -5
I remember the first Smackdown vs Raws Roster being a bit underwhelming. A lot of names that made their debut that year were missing.. Mark Jindrak, Garrison Cade and Rene Dupree were the only new names. Eugene who had been a big part of WWE that year was absent from the game. Yet guys like A Train and Scotty 2 Hotty who were barely seen on TV were in. I remember being pretty disappointed with the roster. Also one of the rare WWE games where Stone Cold Steve Austin is not in the game. Speaking of shout out to SvR 2010 where even though 2009 had DLC (granted it took a f***ing eternity for it to come out on Xbox for some reason), the only DLC for it was Austin as a preorder bonus who looked barely anything like himself and didn't have his vest, and the head of the games at the time kept lashing out at people for being annoyed they weren't doing more.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 27, 2022 21:53:52 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, War Zone is great since it gives us Ahmed and his mastery of the English language. Hey, my son was 5-6 years old at the time he started learning games and this was the start. Win as Ahmed Johnson, unlock "Ego Mode", where your head grows with each successive punch. Win as the Headbangers, unlock "Gross Mode", where you burp and fart with every strike.Oh man, we had such a blast! You mean "Beans Mode".
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 28, 2022 0:15:12 GMT -5
I mean this is not exactly right but in hindsight the fact wcw revenge doesn't have Ric Flair is such a shame. Preventing it from being the best wcw Monday night wars time capsule
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 28, 2022 5:53:21 GMT -5
Not really the game's fault, but Just Bring It was a frustrating game due to its November 2001 release date, featuring none of the talent from the Invasion and being a capture of the WWF roster circa Wrestlemania X7. Decent title, but few wrestling games ever felt more outdated to recent happenings than that one. Oh, there was definitely a lot of problems with that game. Not only was the roster a downgrade from the diverse roster of KYR, but as mentioned a lot of the guys who had joined the company just weren't there. But you had Dean Malenko, who had pretty much disappeared from TV, Jerry Lynn, who also disappeared very quickly from TV after debuting and Fred Durst, who was only in the game so they could use his song. I'm kind of surprised they didn't find a way to squeeze DDP in there, since he did only debut a few weeks after Lynn from what I remember. But yes, it felt very dated by the time it was released. They should have just axed the commentary, since they must have known it was terrible and a detriment to the game.Story mode was also very rushed. Not that I want to see a bunch of simulated matches like the previous game, but it was nice to play a full year or more of season instead of it being over within 6 or so matches. I would have preferred if they took an additional 6 months to iron out a lot of these problems, but most notably the amount of space it took up on a memory card. Have to disagree about the commentary, we may have got more realistic over time but nothing compares to it in terms of entertainment value, it's pretty much the only thing people remember JBI fondly for.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 28, 2022 6:04:29 GMT -5
WWF Royal Rumble on Dreamcast. I know it was an arcade game, but 20 wrestlers is paltry. The Dreamcast version made it even worse by including a 100-man Rumble mode, though it did allow an unusually large number of wrestlers in the ring at any one time.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2022 6:46:36 GMT -5
I mean this is not exactly right but in hindsight the fact wcw revenge doesn't have Ric Flair is such a shame. Preventing it from being the best wcw Monday night wars time capsule Flair's the big one, since he had legal issues with WCW at the time. Wild to know Warrior was considered for the game, though I wonder how he'd even play in an AKI engine game, given how shallow his movepool was. I am honestly a little surprised Mongo didn't get in, or Horace, but not huge losses.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Nov 28, 2022 6:58:12 GMT -5
Smackdown vs Raw 2007 had some strange omissions.
London and Kendrick weren't in the game even though they were tag team champions.
Kid Kash was in with the Pitbulls look but Jamie Noble was left out.
Vito was in although they had clearly put his head on Nunzio's body.
The Spirt Squad were left out even though they were a prominent part of WWE TV in 2006.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Nov 28, 2022 7:53:07 GMT -5
I remember one of the games had Bret Hart as the cover star for the Canadian release, but he was a DLC
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Post by sungod2020 on Nov 28, 2022 9:28:32 GMT -5
Not that it was a bad roster, it was great and up to date if anything, but I've noticed with WWF No Mercy, it had Ken Shamrock(who left in September 1999) in there when the game was released in November 2000. It also had guys who debuted in late 1999/early 2000 such as Kurt Angle, The Radicalz, Tazz, Rikishi, Essa Rios, Trish Stratus, and Lita. Was Shamrock still employed(meaning legally) and possibly in negotiations to renewing his contract while the game was still in development?
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Post by Venti on Nov 28, 2022 12:19:42 GMT -5
I agree about the first SVR game, losing Brock and Steve Austin alone made it a downgrade from HCTP. Also, Rock was in the game as an unlockable legend, but it was only circa 1999 Rock, which is cool but no newer version made it kinda weird playing as him.
Also agree about SVR 06, had a lot of lower card guys who didn't even last a while in WWE. But at least the top talent like Angle, HBK, Cena, Booker etc kinda made up for it.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 28, 2022 12:31:44 GMT -5
In Your House only having 10 wrestlers felt really small even for a game released in late 1996.
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Post by SkullTrauma on Nov 28, 2022 14:18:30 GMT -5
I know it's unfair to dump on an indie game that's clearly taking whoever they can get, but Retromania Wrestling's still an odd line-up. I feel like they should've either gone all indies or all legends instead of a combination. With the NWA licensing and being an "official sequel" to Wrestlefest, I don't get why they didn't go all in with it and called the game NWA Wrestlefest. At least then it'd look like the roster had some sort of focus to it. Wrestlequest's not out yet & already runs circles around RMW in sheer star power. Also looking like there'll never be any women in the game, which is a bummer. It's a cartoony arcade clone about a fake sport, no one's gonna blow a gasket if it had intergender matches. Wrestlequest has a much larger budget than we do.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 28, 2022 14:23:19 GMT -5
Shout out to SvR 2008 where for some reason Eddie Guerrero, Jim Neidhart, and Sgt. Slaughter were unique to the PSP version while Hardcore Holly was unique to the DS one. Also Tommy Dreamer was randomly considered a legend despite being an active roster member.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 28, 2022 15:10:51 GMT -5
SvR06 was such a good game with a great CAW mode that it was pretty easy to overlook how weak the roster was. Or that it had the outdated entrance for Cena when he was in the middle of his megapush.
They couldn't even use the real nWo music for Hollywood Hogan. Instead they used that legally distinct version.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Nov 28, 2022 15:41:27 GMT -5
Not really the game's fault, but Just Bring It was a frustrating game due to its November 2001 release date, featuring none of the talent from the Invasion and being a capture of the WWF roster circa Wrestlemania X7. Decent title, but few wrestling games ever felt more outdated to recent happenings than that one. Oh, there was definitely a lot of problems with that game. Not only was the roster a downgrade from the diverse roster of KYR, but as mentioned a lot of the guys who had joined the company just weren't there. But you had Dean Malenko, who had pretty much disappeared from TV, Jerry Lynn, who also disappeared very quickly from TV after debuting and Fred Durst, who was only in the game so they could use his song. I'm kind of surprised they didn't find a way to squeeze DDP in there, since he did only debut a few weeks after Lynn from what I remember. But yes, it felt very dated by the time it was released. They should have just axed the commentary, since they must have known it was terrible and a detriment to the game. Story mode was also very rushed. Not that I want to see a bunch of simulated matches like the previous game, but it was nice to play a full year or more of season instead of it being over within 6 or so matches. I would have preferred if they took an additional 6 months to iron out a lot of these problems, but most notably the amount of space it took up on a memory card.Another big downside they could have done with ironing out was the weird bug where assigning a CAW either Goldberg or Grand Master Sexay's pre-set moves would cause the game to crash and corrupt your save data.
This happened to me as a kid trying to make Too Cool and I was pissed!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 28, 2022 15:42:48 GMT -5
Actually I want to talk about the Warzone thing since I started watching in around September 1998 and first played it probably a few months later so the whole thing was very weird for me. Whole thing was like, "So who are these Bret Hart and Ahmed Johnson and British Bulldog people and what's up with these Goldust outfits and why is Shawn Michaels a wrestler using the DX theme." Reminds me of how as someone who didn't really get to order PPVs as a kid I spent ages only knowing the Tombstone from games because Taker didn't really do it on TV a lot during the Attitude Era. I think the first time I actually saw him use it was when I rented the VHS of SummerSlam 1994. Started watching in 99 Saw my first Tombstone I think in 2001?
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Nov 28, 2022 15:44:41 GMT -5
WCW World Tour is a good game, but the roster is pretty sparse because it was slapped together in a rush. Doesn't mean that it's not still really neat in its own way, but comparing it to Revenge, it's night and day. If you're familiar with who the 'unoffical' roster members are then the roster is great. Not so much if you want a strictly WCW game, I suppose.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 28, 2022 16:29:00 GMT -5
Oh, there was definitely a lot of problems with that game. Not only was the roster a downgrade from the diverse roster of KYR, but as mentioned a lot of the guys who had joined the company just weren't there. But you had Dean Malenko, who had pretty much disappeared from TV, Jerry Lynn, who also disappeared very quickly from TV after debuting and Fred Durst, who was only in the game so they could use his song. I'm kind of surprised they didn't find a way to squeeze DDP in there, since he did only debut a few weeks after Lynn from what I remember. But yes, it felt very dated by the time it was released. They should have just axed the commentary, since they must have known it was terrible and a detriment to the game.Story mode was also very rushed. Not that I want to see a bunch of simulated matches like the previous game, but it was nice to play a full year or more of season instead of it being over within 6 or so matches. I would have preferred if they took an additional 6 months to iron out a lot of these problems, but most notably the amount of space it took up on a memory card. Have to disagree about the commentary, we may have got more realistic over time but nothing compares to it in terms of entertainment value, it's pretty much the only thing people remember JBI fondly for. FinalGwen has a great...THE FAN POST!
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 28, 2022 17:55:00 GMT -5
I remember one of the games had Bret Hart as the cover star for the Canadian release, but he was a DLC And only for a limited time. I know I missed it. I was pissed.
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Post by NickGemini12 on Nov 30, 2022 22:11:38 GMT -5
WWF Attitude had an even more outdated roster much like Warzone. The game came out in July of 1999 yet it's roster was missing important stars like The Big Show, Test, & several others. It felt like a late 1998 roster because several stars had an outdated look like Paul Bearer for example who had his undyed hair look he had in 1997-1998 yet in 1999 he had black hair again. & several roster choices were questionable like SGT Slaughter who wasn't even seen much on TV after being dismissed as Commissioner. I felt Vince or Shane should have been included instead.
Warzone was delayed a handful of times to perfect the game engine it had as it was made from scratch. It was originally planned for 1997. & was called WWF '98. One of the delays may have been to update the aesthetic to the Attitude Era style as it originally was based more of the New Generation era
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