Punk Scrum Thread II: Punk terminated from AEW

[Lizuka #BLM]

The whole, "He didn't say hello to me!" thing just goes to show you either die the voice of the voiceless or you live long enough to see yourself become the Undertaker.

[raymondo316]

Aug 15, 2023 8:33:27 GMT -5 markymark said:

PWInsider: In regard to the Ryan Nemeth situation, one AEW talent believed that him being sent home may have been precipitated by Nemeth walking around and saying hello to everyone at the hotel before the taping but not stopping and saying hello to CM Punk and others Punk was with. The talent noted that several weeks ago, Punk had held a locker room meeting about trying to keep the Collision locker room as drama free as possible and that with Nemeth having knocked Punk on Twitter around the time he returned to the ring in Chicago for the Collision premiere, that would fly in the face of that.

As we noted yesterday, Punk and Nemeth had a conversation after that Tweet several months back and the belief among a source close to Nemeth was that the two sides were fine. However, the talent who witnessed Nemeth "blow off" Punk and his group (whether purposely or accidental the talent could not say) stated that they could see how Nemeth acting that way would set off Punk, given what he's tried to set in the Collision locker room. The source commented that they weren't defending Punk, but they could understand the cause and effect there. As we reported yesterday, AEW VP Pat Buck sent Nemeth home last Saturday, telling him he would be working Wednesdays instead.

Its mad to think Punk is nearly 45 years old, and he's still acting like a child.

[chrom]

Aug 15, 2023 8:56:08 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

The whole, "He didn't say hello to me!" thing just goes to show you either die the voice of the voiceless or you live long enough to see yourself become the Undertaker.

The voiceless may have actually been heard, if he'd ever shut up for a minute.

[Denny Zen is Cooking™]

Aug 15, 2023 8:56:08 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

The whole, "He didn't say hello to me!" thing just goes to show you either die the voice of the voiceless or you live long enough to see yourself become the Undertaker.

The more the years go on, the clearer it becomes that Punk wasn't actually upset about the toxic "old school" members of the locker room when he was in WWE, he was just mad that he didn't get to be the bully. 

He's living out his dream right now.

[Bo Rida]

They really need to bring Matt Cardona in this week to do some in-depth toy analysis.

Has to be this week because he might not survive facing Maki Itoh.

[Allie Kitsune]

Aug 15, 2023 8:51:11 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

"He didn't say hi to me and my friends so he's drama and I don't want him here" is such a bold claim for a man in his mid-forties to make I can't believe I thought this guy was cool

It's hard to look like the "Justified Revolutionary Rebel" when you're older than the people you're revolting against.

[Pgarodactyl]

Punk (probably): "Collision is supposed to be gleeful and drama-free and fun! And you can let me do that, or there can be another bus crash!"

[Denny Zen is Cooking™]

Aug 15, 2023 9:02:19 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Aug 15, 2023 8:51:11 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

"He didn't say hi to me and my friends so he's drama and I don't want him here" is such a bold claim for a man in his mid-forties to make I can't believe I thought this guy was cool

It's hard to look like the "Justified Revolutionary Rebel" when you're older than the people you're revolting against.

CM Punk is as revolutionary punk as American Idiot era Green Day at this point. I feel like we're one more muffin induced meltdown away from CM Punk: The Musical making its grand debut at The Chicago Theatre. 

[Allie Kitsune]

Aug 15, 2023 9:10:03 GMT -5 Denny Zen is Cooking™ said:

Aug 15, 2023 9:02:19 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

It's hard to look like the "Justified Revolutionary Rebel" when you're older than the people you're revolting against.

CM Punk is as revolutionary punk as American Idiot era Green Day at this point. I feel like we're one more muffin induced meltdown away from CM Punk: The Musical making its grand debut at The Chicago Theatre. 

I badly hope it starts with him being something like "THERE IS NO GOD AND THEY WEREN'T F***ING MUFFINS!"

[IgnahtaSempria]

I'm sure that it's been said before, but along with just being incredibly petty, this whole scenario is terrible optics for Punk.

This whole drama started with the Elite accusing Punk of trying to get Colt Cabana taken off Dynamite and/or fired, which Punk and his camp still adamantly refuse.

Meanwhile, Punk is given a moderate to high level of control over Collision, and he decides to block at least three people (four if you believe he's the reason that Hangman wasn't allowed at the Greensboro taping) from his show over being friends with The Elite.

Like, before, I was willing to believe that it was just Khan trying to stop fires before they started. Now I 110% believe Punk had Cabana removed from Dynamite, because he's shown that he's willing to do it.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

I still think there's two sides to every story, but I also wonder what on earth Tony's doing if Punk legit has this much say. Tony must have given up more than we know to sign the guy. It's the only thing that explains how any of this is going on beyond "Tony Khan's a bitch." Which yes, he is, sure, but this just seems like a lot.

[06vwgti]

I don't know why but I'm just laughing at nemeth blowing off punk it's just funny picturing it in his Hollywood hunk persona

[polarbearpete]

TK is lucky that the Elite re-signed because Punk really could’ve ruined the whole company. As it is, he’s still causing such a mess that Khan needs to put his foot down or Punk’s going to continue to walk all over him and those he doesn’t like.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Aug 15, 2023 9:01:37 GMT -5 Denny Zen is Cooking™ said:

Aug 15, 2023 8:56:08 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

The whole, "He didn't say hello to me!" thing just goes to show you either die the voice of the voiceless or you live long enough to see yourself become the Undertaker.

The more the years go on, the clearer it becomes that Punk wasn't actually upset about the toxic "old school" members of the locker room when he was in WWE, he was just mad that he didn't get to be the bully. 

He's living out his dream right now.

Hate to keep trucking out the Miz comparisons but Punk kind of invites them and there's a great comparison in how Miz endured some of the absolute worst of that bullying and instead of paying it forward, broke that cycle, and never became a toxic and miserable old coot. But strangely he doesn't feel the need to boast about it to everyone and act like he's a saint who fixed a broken system; he takes the real feelings of what he endured for his love of wrestling and channels it into promos sometimes, but he's never up his own ass about how great he is for not stealing peoples' passports while on European tours.

[lucas_lee]

Aug 15, 2023 8:51:11 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

"He didn't say hi to me and my friends so he's drama and I don't want him here" is such a bold claim for a man in his mid-forties to make I can't believe I thought this guy was cool

My aunt shunned me from my family because I didn't say hi by accident. And she's in her seventies. Punk being like this is sad to watch

[stoptheclocks]

Aug 15, 2023 9:29:58 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

TK is lucky that the Elite re-signed because Punk really could’ve ruined the whole company. As it is, he’s still causing such a mess that Khan needs to put his foot down or Punk’s going to continue to walk all over him and those he doesn’t like.

Maybe, but some of these things that are coming to light now, pre-date The Elite re-signing. The Matt Hardy thing was a few weeks ago, so presumably it would've got back that Punk was barring their friends from Collision.

I feel like given they were content enough to stay despite everything Punk has done, this probably wouldn't have changed things.

[markymark]

Aug 15, 2023 9:29:58 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

TK is lucky that the Elite re-signed because Punk really could’ve ruined the whole company. As it is, he’s still causing such a mess that Khan needs to put his foot down or Punk’s going to continue to walk all over him and those he doesn’t like.

I mean Punk apologized to Hangman, even if it was via text, its still an improvement over last year when Punk constantly denied he was the reason Colt was gone and then TK saying that he likes conflicts(which ended up aging like milk)

[FinalGwen]

A Nemeth getting in trouble because he didn't shake enough hands and greet everybody is just the perfect encapsulation of how Punk is bringing back that old school toxicity.

[firsttimelongtime]

Aug 15, 2023 9:18:10 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

I still think there's two sides to every story, but I also wonder what on earth Tony's doing if Punk legit has this much say. Tony must have given up more than we know to sign the guy. It's the only thing that explains how any of this is going on beyond "Tony Khan's a bitch." Which yes, he is, sure, but this just seems like a lot.

I think it is fairly obvious Tony Khan agrees with most of the stuff Punk said in the original All Out press conference. He probably also finds the idea of the Bucks refusing to even talk to Punk as ridiculous and a hindrance to the growth of his company.

I'm not saying he's right to do those things but if true then it's easy to see why he lets Punk act the way he does. 

[polarbearpete]

Aug 15, 2023 10:04:25 GMT -5 markymark said:

Aug 15, 2023 9:29:58 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

TK is lucky that the Elite re-signed because Punk really could’ve ruined the whole company. As it is, he’s still causing such a mess that Khan needs to put his foot down or Punk’s going to continue to walk all over him and those he doesn’t like.

I mean Punk apologized to Hangman, even if it was via text, its still an improvement over last year when Punk constantly denied he was the reason Colt was gone and then TK saying that he likes conflicts(which ended up aging like milk)

Please, Punk doesn’t need praise on his “improvement” because he may have sent a text apology (and then told everyone about it) for something he should have never said. He’s in complete damage control since Saturday, pushing out stories through Hausman seemingly by the hour but still failing to spin it in a way that he comes off well.