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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 15, 2023 10:17:06 GMT -5
FWIW SRS is another person to just confirm that Punk seemed genuinely taken aback that Page was sent home from Collision. SRS says he gets some won't believe it but Punk has confirmed to everybody that he was involved with Nemeth and Daniels being sent home so SRS seems to somewhat believe Punk
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Aug 15, 2023 10:17:17 GMT -5
At this point, I'm waiting for the news report where Punk tells TK to "Pick up the pennies, Jax Boy" like he's Saint Cloud
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Post by Fade on Aug 15, 2023 10:17:52 GMT -5
I still think there's two sides to every story, but I also wonder what on earth Tony's doing if Punk legit has this much say. Tony must have given up more than we know to sign the guy. It's the only thing that explains how any of this is going on beyond "Tony Khan's a bitch." Which yes, he is, sure, but this just seems like a lot. I don’t buy that Tony gave Phil something extra or that Phil has a stake in the company yadda yadda yadda. I think it boils down to Phil’s perceived star power in Tony’s eye. Tony’s own fascination he’s had with him. And that yes, he’s a bitch/money mark. The whole, "He didn't say hello to me!" thing just goes to show you either die the voice of the voiceless or you live long enough to see yourself become the Undertaker. The more the years go on, the clearer it becomes that Punk wasn't actually upset about the toxic "old school" members of the locker room when he was in WWE, he was just mad that he didn't get to be the bully. He's living out his dream right now. 💯 I'm sure that it's been said before, but along with just being incredibly petty, this whole scenario is terrible optics for Punk. This whole drama started with the Elite accusing Punk of trying to get Colt Cabana taken off Dynamite and/or fired, which Punk and his camp still adamantly refuse. Meanwhile, Punk is given a moderate to high level of control over Collision, and he decides to block at least three people (four if you believe he's the reason that Hangman wasn't allowed at the Greensboro taping) from his show over being friends with The Elite. Like, before, I was willing to believe that it was just Khan trying to stop fires before they started. Now I 110% believe Punk had Cabana removed from Dynamite, because he's shown that he's willing to do it. Think about Phil’s rep before coming back. He’s completely gone to town and torched his own image. In his most private moments, he must know this but he can never admit it. He can’t take accountability. He just can’t. I keep thinking about a different timeline where the elite leave to WWE. Just imagine what that’d mean for AEW. It’d be lost. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2023 10:18:08 GMT -5
A Nemeth getting in trouble because he didn't shake enough hands and greet everybody is just the perfect encapsulation of how Punk is bringing back that old school toxicity. |
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Aug 15, 2023 10:18:39 GMT -5
FWIW SRS is another person to just confirm that Punk seemed genuinely taken aback that Page was sent home from Collision. SRS says he gets some won't believe it but Punk has confirmed to everybody that he was involved with Nemeth and Daniels being sent home so SRS seems to somewhat believe Punk Maybe Hangman was sent home because it was obvious that Punk was throwing a tantrum and they wanted to get ahead of the next one. But that can't be Punk's fault, nope not at all. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2023 10:24:42 GMT -5
Seriously though if Punk is now punishing dudes by taking them off a show because they didn't say hi to him anyone defending him has to admit that they want to suck on Punk's used socks there's just no other excuse at this point
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 15, 2023 10:24:46 GMT -5
Have they tried putting Punk down for a nap before the shows?
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Post by markymark on Aug 15, 2023 10:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 15, 2023 10:27:00 GMT -5
TK is lucky that the Elite re-signed because Punk really could’ve ruined the whole company. As it is, he’s still causing such a mess that Khan needs to put his foot down or Punk’s going to continue to walk all over him and those he doesn’t like. I mean Punk apologized to Hangman, even if it was via text, its still an improvement over last year when Punk constantly denied he was the reason Colt was gone and then TK saying that he likes conflicts(which ended up aging like milk) "The apology must be as loud and public as the disrespect". Gee, can't remember who said that... |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 15, 2023 10:30:41 GMT -5
FWIW SRS is another person to just confirm that Punk seemed genuinely taken aback that Page was sent home from Collision. SRS says he gets some won't believe it but Punk has confirmed to everybody that he was involved with Nemeth and Daniels being sent home so SRS seems to somewhat believe Punk Maybe Hangman was sent home because it was obvious that Punk was throwing a tantrum and they wanted to get ahead of the next one. But that can't be Punk's fault, nope not at all. Yeah, I mean, I'm willing to believe that Punk didn't specifically demand that Hangman leave. Punk only seems to pick on people below him in the pecking order, and I think he's very aware after Scrumgate and the Elite's recent re-signing that Hangman is, at the very least, equal to him. That's why his approach there seems to be trying to goad Hangman into engaging. But "yeah, sure, I demanded that everyone I don't like leave the building except for that one guy who I dislike most publicly" is a pretty poor defense to this situation. I think if Punk was throwing a baby tantrum about Daniels and Nemeth being there, it was just taken as a given that Hangman being there was a powder keg waiting to explode. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2023 10:31:27 GMT -5
"I didn't send Hangman home, but I did have two other guys' work f***ed with and got them sent home for kind of similar reasons" sounds believable as a confession but it sounds f***ing unbelievable as anyone's attempt at damage control. Punk copping to enough of the story to actually highlight the bad part of this solely in hope he avoids any heat specifically for Hangman is such a move. People say he's playing political games but this is actually "smashes dick in a car door" level moves.
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Post by markymark on Aug 15, 2023 10:32:24 GMT -5
I mean Punk apologized to Hangman, even if it was via text, its still an improvement over last year when Punk constantly denied he was the reason Colt was gone and then TK saying that he likes conflicts(which ended up aging like milk) Please, Punk doesn’t need praise on his “improvement” because he may have sent a text apology (and then told everyone about it) for something he should have never said. He’s in complete damage control since Saturday, pushing out stories through Hausman seemingly by the hour but still failing to spin it in a way that he comes off well.
Sapp story matches what Lanza said that he tried to make that promo a work but came off looking like a shoot and didnt help that Punk didnt ask permission to do it.
Punk apologizing(or being forced to apologize) is better than last year because last year TK didnt do a damn thing to stop the drama from scalating.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 15, 2023 10:36:25 GMT -5
"I didn't send Hangman home, but I did have two other guys' work f***ed with and got them sent home for kind of similar reasons" sounds believable as a confession but it sounds f***ing unbelievable as anyone's attempt at damage control. Punk copping to enough of the story to actually highlight the bad part of this solely in hope he avoids any heat specifically for Hangman is such a move. People say he's playing political games but this is actually "smashes dick in a car door" level moves. "I didn't know! I didn't know!" He says as he slowly shrinks and turns into John Bradshaw Layfield. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 15, 2023 10:36:49 GMT -5
I am actually willing to believe Punk screwed up the promo, does regret it, and didn't try to keep Hangman outside the arena (which didn't seem to impact anything really). I also understand why he might raise a stink about Nemeth given their issues. I disagree but I get it. The Daniels thing is the main hang up I have that confuses the hell out of me. He's an office guy who has already been around on Saturdays. The Ace Steel comparison both doesn't make sense and why would that just be an issue now but not two weeks ago? Plus he's an office guy. He sort of has to be allowed to be there.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 15, 2023 10:37:21 GMT -5
Please, Punk doesn’t need praise on his “improvement” because he may have sent a text apology (and then told everyone about it) for something he should have never said. He’s in complete damage control since Saturday, pushing out stories through Hausman seemingly by the hour but still failing to spin it in a way that he comes off well.
Sapp story matches what Lanza said that he tried to make that promo a work but came off looking like a shoot and didnt help that Punk didnt ask permission to do it.
Punk apologizing(or being forced to apologize) is better than last year because last year TK didnt do a damn thing to stop the drama from scalating.
TK's not doing a damn thing to keep the drama from escalating now. His sole public statement on the matter amounts to "tee hee hee controversy creates cash!" Which is really rich coming from someone who has traded so many public barbs with Bischoff. |
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Post by jm on Aug 15, 2023 10:38:49 GMT -5
Punk then: "The apology must be as loud as the disrespect!!"
Punk now: "LOL sorry Hangman. Please forgive me. Was just joking."
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Post by markymark on Aug 15, 2023 10:46:04 GMT -5
Sapp story matches what Lanza said that he tried to make that promo a work but came off looking like a shoot and didnt help that Punk didnt ask permission to do it.
Punk apologizing(or being forced to apologize) is better than last year because last year TK didnt do a damn thing to stop the drama from scalating.
TK's not doing a damn thing to keep the drama from escalating now. His sole public statement on the matter amounts to "tee hee hee controversy creates cash!" Which is really rich coming from someone who has traded so many public barbs with Bischoff.
Did Punk ever apologize to Colt for last year pre Brawl Out? No Right.
TK recent statement was No comment about the Punk/Hangman thing
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 15, 2023 10:46:36 GMT -5
Please, Punk doesn’t need praise on his “improvement” because he may have sent a text apology (and then told everyone about it) for something he should have never said. He’s in complete damage control since Saturday, pushing out stories through Hausman seemingly by the hour but still failing to spin it in a way that he comes off well.
Sapp story matches what Lanza said that he tried to make that promo a work but came off looking like a shoot and didnt help that Punk didnt ask permission to do it.
Punk apologizing(or being forced to apologize) is better than last year because last year TK didnt do a damn thing to stop the drama from scalating.
TK doesn’t seem to be doing anything here either. After Punk miraculously kept his job following the scrum, the Brawl Out and his constant social media passive agressiveness while he was away, he should be on an absolutely zero tolerance policy. He shouldn’t be allowed to make even more shoot comments about the person he’s had the biggest hangup about (ESPN interview, and now these post-show comments) and then say no worries it’s a work! (Hint: if the other side is not in on it, then it’s not a work). He shouldn’t be allowed to dictate who gets to go backstage, who gets sent home (especially office staff), he shouldn’t be trying to force his way into creative meetings involving the Bucks, and he probably shouldn’t be a member of the booking team at all. There’s no way to try and sugarcoat this. TK should act now before things get worse than they were last year. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 15, 2023 10:50:06 GMT -5
TK's not doing a damn thing to keep the drama from escalating now. His sole public statement on the matter amounts to "tee hee hee controversy creates cash!" Which is really rich coming from someone who has traded so many public barbs with Bischoff.
Did Punk ever apologize to Colt for last year pre Brawl Out? No Right.
TK recent statement was No comment about the Punk/Hangman thing
No, his recent statement was "no comment, but I am thrilled people are so interested in AEW, both inside and outside of the ring!" Which is page for page, word for word, straight out of the Eric Bischoff playbook. I am a huge AEW fan. I have said on this very forum that it is my favorite professional wrestling promotion of all time. That remains true, to this day. But, I can't just willfully ignore the fact that this whole situation smacks of the very worst aspects of Attitude Era WCW, where the inmates running the asylum with no reproach was a major catalyst of the company's downfall. |
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Post by chazraps on Aug 15, 2023 10:56:08 GMT -5
If Punk was surprised about the Hangman not being allowed into the building, he's surprised that his whim actually worked. Come on now. He's not a reliable source.
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