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Post by Kalmia on Aug 15, 2023 13:00:59 GMT -5
I don't care if Matt Hardy is the worst wrestler to ever wrestle, Punk shouldnt have the authority to prevent anyone from wrestling on Collision when their worst crime is /checks notes/ IDK? Publicly supporting the Elite, I guess?
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Post by Chiral on Aug 15, 2023 13:08:17 GMT -5
Again, I'm not particularly keen to watch Matt Hardy on my tv either. It's surely not the place of a fellow performer to unilaterally decide he's not welcome at a taping, though? Something something billion dollars
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Post by Facetious on Aug 15, 2023 13:08:59 GMT -5
I don't know man. I guess I can buy Punk not meaning any harm with the dumb Hangman joke, the problem lies in the fact that he spent an entire year stewing over one line in a promo, actively buried him on live TV,and went nuclear over it that led to a locker room brawl.
Maybe, just maybe, we don't make "light hearted jokes" about a guy that you have noted history with. Especially one you're allegedly trying to mend fences with
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 15, 2023 13:11:17 GMT -5
Y’all take stuff so seriously. Sheesh.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 15, 2023 13:14:12 GMT -5
Y’all take stuff so seriously. Sheesh. You should thank us "for making it real again."
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Post by raymondo316 on Aug 15, 2023 13:25:13 GMT -5
Have PWInsider always done Punk’s PR or is this a new thing? Its due to Dave Scherer hating the Elite
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2023 13:26:30 GMT -5
I don't know man. I guess I can buy Punk not meaning any harm with the dumb Hangman joke, the problem lies in the fact that he spent an entire year stewing over one line in a promo, actively buried him on live TV,and went nuclear over it that led to a locker room brawl. Maybe, just maybe, we don't make "light hearted jokes" about a guy that you have noted history with. Especially one you're allegedly trying to mend fences with I think in general, you should have people know before hand you plan on "working" with them like that. It's shitty when it's a random wrestler picking a fight on twitter to durm up attention because they're bored. But it's another when it's a guy you haven't gotten on with and have gone to so many lengths to shittalk and run through the press. Literally no excuse to not ask "Hey is it cool if I try to stir up the crowd for some heel heat by crapping on you post-show?" and if he doesn't respond then you keep your idiot mouth shut. This obviously just on its face is not how anyone in wrestling should be doing this but it's also in no way how you fix issues or build trust, because " this time I meant it as a work" is a f***ing pitiful reasonng
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 15, 2023 13:27:53 GMT -5
Have PWInsider always done Punk’s PR or is this a new thing? Its due to Dave Scherer hating the Elite Is there any reasoning to that hate or just one of those things?
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 15, 2023 13:30:02 GMT -5
Y’all take stuff so seriously. Sheesh. You should thank us "for making it real again." I made a joke about how it’s good to keep 62 year old Matt Hardy off television and everyone feels the need to defend the good honor of the multi millionaire. Even getting offended at anything Punk says/does is taking this too seriously! He has made it real for so many of you. Every new report is met with posters becoming Jesse Pinkman. It’s pro wrestling, a stupid, silly art form. It will all be okay.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2023 13:32:28 GMT -5
You should thank us "for making it real again." I made a joke about how it’s good to keep 62 year old Matt Hardy off television and everyone feels the need to defend the good honor of the multi millionaire. Even getting offended at anything Punk says/does is taking this too seriously! He has made it real for so many of you. Every new report is met with posters becoming Jesse Pinkman. It’s pro wrestling, a stupid, silly art form. It will all be okay. You can't just keep saying "He's made it real" until it somehow makes sense, your perception of us being worked isn't Tinkerbell, you can't clap it into existence.
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 15, 2023 13:35:29 GMT -5
I made a joke about how it’s good to keep 62 year old Matt Hardy off television and everyone feels the need to defend the good honor of the multi millionaire. Even getting offended at anything Punk says/does is taking this too seriously! He has made it real for so many of you. Every new report is met with posters becoming Jesse Pinkman. It’s pro wrestling, a stupid, silly art form. It will all be okay. You can't just keep saying "He's made it real" until it somehow makes sense, your perception of us being worked isn't Tinkerbell, you can't clap it into existence. The crowd reactions he has received since returning is far more real than anyone else’s. It’s visceral and comes across the TV (and the times I’ve been in the arena) as truly out of the ordinary. That’s why I will say he’s made it real again.
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Post by raymondo316 on Aug 15, 2023 13:37:05 GMT -5
Its due to Dave Scherer hating the Elite Is there any reasoning to that hate or just one of those things? I'm not even sure when it started or why, he just seems to really hate them.
He blames them for all the things he doesn't like about the company (which is a lot), thinks they shouldn't be EVP's and how Tony shouldnt be listening to anything they say.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 15, 2023 13:55:33 GMT -5
You should thank us "for making it real again." I made a joke about how it’s good to keep 62 year old Matt Hardy off television and everyone feels the need to defend the good honor of the multi millionaire. Even getting offended at anything Punk says/does is taking this too seriously! He has made it real for so many of you. Every new report is met with posters becoming Jesse Pinkman. It’s pro wrestling, a stupid, silly art form. It will all be okay. Not sure what bringing up Matt's monetary status is when Punk is getting paid _way_ more than Matt is. The kinda defeats the purpose. The guy you're defending makes even more than the guy you're trying to put down others for defending.
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 15, 2023 13:59:58 GMT -5
I made a joke about how it’s good to keep 62 year old Matt Hardy off television and everyone feels the need to defend the good honor of the multi millionaire. Even getting offended at anything Punk says/does is taking this too seriously! He has made it real for so many of you. Every new report is met with posters becoming Jesse Pinkman. It’s pro wrestling, a stupid, silly art form. It will all be okay. Not sure what bringing up Matt's monetary status is when Punk is getting paid _way_ more than Matt is. The kinda defeats the purpose. The guy you're defending makes even more than the guy you're trying to put down others for defending. Holy moly. I’m not defending Punk. I was making a joke about how everyone in AEW should come together to keep Matt Hardy off our television
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 15, 2023 14:01:54 GMT -5
You can't just keep saying "He's made it real" until it somehow makes sense, your perception of us being worked isn't Tinkerbell, you can't clap it into existence. The crowd reactions he has received since returning is far more real than anyone else’s. It’s visceral and comes across the TV (and the times I’ve been in the arena) as truly out of the ordinary. That’s why I will say he’s made it real again. I guess it depends on your definition of "real" in the context of professional wrestling. He's made it "real" in the sense that he has caused a litany of out of the ring bullshit to bleed into the television shows. He's made it "real" in the sense that a large number of fans hate Phil Brooks' guts for being a hypocritical whiny manchild, regardless of how the CM Punk character is portrayed on television, and a large number of fans seemingly love him for constantly antagonizing the people that a certain connoisseur of racket-based sports who fancies himself a cult leader has deemed public enemy number 1. But, he's decidedly not made it "real" insofar as on-screen he's in feuds with Ricky Starks and Samoa Joe, but all of the discussion is about toy sales and him forbidding a pay-per-appearance extra from being in the building. To me, that's the bad kind of "real" in pro wrestling. The Vince Russo kind that had a major hand in the death of WCW. I also don't think any of us take anything in wrestling too seriously. We are all well aware that we are watching a bunch of grown ass men fake fight. Half of the reason I enjoy it so much is because it's goofy, silly, escapism. I just think CM Punk is a giant douche who definitely takes it too seriously. So, I'm going to spend some time ripping on him anonymously on the internet.
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Kalmia
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 15, 2023 14:06:12 GMT -5
Who wants wrestling to be real? I want to suspend my disbelief, but I never want it to be real. If I wanted real, I'd watch something else.
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Post by markymark on Aug 15, 2023 14:12:16 GMT -5
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2023 14:12:33 GMT -5
I believe CM Punk is actually in real life a crap person so bad that I'm not going to watch Collision anymore because don't want to support a show where an egomaniac gets to f*** with the livelihood of other people he doesn't like over petty bullshit. Oh man I'm so worked I'm so owned he got me, this is true wrestling and what wrestling is meant to be. I've been bamboozled by the pepsi man and his master plan.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Aug 15, 2023 14:16:20 GMT -5
Jack: comeback, heat, boom boom, rvd on his knees calling me scrungle boy Punk: -90210 stars f*** you
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 15, 2023 14:16:48 GMT -5
I believe CM Punk is actually in real life a crap person so bad that I'm not going to watch Collision anymore because don't want to support a show where an egomaniac gets to f*** with the livelihood of other people he doesn't like over petty bullshit. Oh man I'm so worked I'm so owned he got me, this is true wrestling and what wrestling is meant to be. I've been bamboozled by the pepsi man and his master plan. Brother you can be as passive aggressive towards my opinions as you want, but if you don’t see the irony between your ratings threads posts and your posts in this thread, I’m afraid it may have become real.
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