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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Aug 29, 2023 14:08:17 GMT -5
These reports are either coming from Nick Hausman (who has been Punk's mouthpiece ever since they bonded over not doing improv with Colt Cabana) or other reporters who have gone out of their way to say that what they're reporting is being sourced by "people close to Punk" or "Punk's camp." The follow-ups to the Perry story made it clear that the initial report was entirely from Punk and that other sources had a very interpretation of events that weren't as charitable to Punk These pro-Punk stories always have like way too intimate a level of "Punk thinks that people are trying to look for excuses to get out of showing up to work the next week and it's one of AEW's biggest problems" or "CM Punk thought it would be best if he left to not cause problems and then he bought Nando's for people" and it's shit you don't see in like nay other newz reporting on anything. It's either CM Punk himself saying it and sharing those thoughts, or dude's got his locker room buddies gathered around him like he's Jesus giving a sermon and then sharing that wisdom with Sean Ross Sapp. There's no way this stuff isn't coming from Punk. I do have to say, I like how Alvarez/SRS/Meltzer/Johnson have all gotten to the point where they don't even care about burning Punk as a source and make it abundantly clear when him or someone close to him is feeding them info. Other reporters in far more serious fields need to take notes when a clearly hostile actor is both feeding them information and publicly attacking reports that they're responsible for. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 29, 2023 14:11:17 GMT -5
Punk shows up at Collision anyway and kicks TK out of the building.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Aug 29, 2023 14:11:32 GMT -5
Oh man that’s not a good sign for him. I think he’s cooked, but then again I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if Khan still bent over to accommodate him |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 29, 2023 14:11:51 GMT -5
Lmfao, I am in stitches. So, Punk had, in fact, been informed of his suspension through the proper legal channels, which makes sense given that he's proven himself to be one hell of a litigious motherf***er. But, "his camp" leaked that he had not been informed of a suspension in an effort to make AEW look bad. It's mystifying how the exact same thing keeps happening, repeatedly. |
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Post by Chiral on Aug 29, 2023 14:13:31 GMT -5
Guys cmon he hadn't been *informed* informed
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Aug 29, 2023 14:16:00 GMT -5
I also wonder how much t-shirt sales are worth this dude going on a personal crusade to make it seem like AEW (the company that rolled out the red carpet for him and generally gives him everything he wants and lets him do whatever he wants) is the most toxic trashily run organization in wrestling history. Like sure he makes money but he's also doing damage to the company's rep at every corner unintentionally and intentionally. Especially since his fanbase seems to increasingly be made up of people who miss the days when the locker room was "dog-eat-dog, backstab anyone you can to get to the top, make sure everyone knows you're the roughest son of a bitch in the room".
Which is crazy to me, because Punk got exposed as a paper tiger back in the UFC.
There's such a cognitive dissonance that I just do not understand about people who rally behind Punk as this "Keeper of the old guard, from back when wrestlers were MEN, and they were TOUGH and they knew how to FIGHT, GODDAMMIT" like he's a Harley Race type, when at best he's a mid-90's Shawn Michaels, because just like Shawn, he only picks fights against people too nice or too mature to knock his teeth down his throat, or not having the political stroke to survive doing so.
Think about it this way: Moxley, Miro, and Joe have all taken shots at Punk in one way or another that sure as hell weren't works, and you've not heard of Punk confronting them about it all. I wonder why?
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Post by spagett on Aug 29, 2023 14:16:19 GMT -5
I've been critical of Miro in the last year or so because he sounds like he's been a headache himself for Tony Khan to deal with.
But you know what, fair play to him over all this. Would have been easy for him to say nothing and let the original version of events that Punk leaked where they accused Perry of starting the physical fight be seen as the truth. Punk is obviously higher up the food chain than Perry and Miro has a nice spot for himself on Collision to think about.
Instead he stepped up to let everyone know Punk and his camp were lying and pretty much defended Perry.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Aug 29, 2023 14:16:19 GMT -5
I'm loving how a good portion of these stories can be distilled to "CM Punk has never worked in a professional environment and can't handle life without a babysitter." Nevermind being a manager, motherf***er couldn't handle being a seasonal stocker at a Target if he's confounded by things such as "arranging his own travel" and "having his lawyer as point of contact for legal issues".
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Post by jm on Aug 29, 2023 14:16:41 GMT -5
I also wonder how much t-shirt sales are worth this dude going on a personal crusade to make it seem like AEW (the company that rolled out the red carpet for him and generally gives him everything he wants and lets him do whatever he wants) is the most toxic trashily run organization in wrestling history. Like sure he makes money but he's also doing damage to the company's rep at every corner unintentionally and intentionally. Especially since his fanbase seems to increasingly be made up of people who miss the days when the locker room was "dog-eat-dog, backstab anyone you can to get to the top, make sure everyone knows you're the roughest son of a bitch in the room". I'm becoming more and more convinced that the people who are still constantly defending Punk are living vicariously through him. They see him as someone they wish they could be: someone who rules over everyone and beats up people who say a bad word about him. The problem is they also realize that Punk has become a bastion of toxic masculinity and his behavior is horrible, so therefore his defenders have to place the blame on everyone else for why he acts the way he does and even chastise anyone who wants Punk to be an upstanding worker. The people defending Punk want to be Punk. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 29, 2023 14:19:58 GMT -5
Especially since his fanbase seems to increasingly be made up of people who miss the days when the locker room was "dog-eat-dog, backstab anyone you can to get to the top, make sure everyone knows you're the roughest son of a bitch in the room". I'm becoming more and more convinced that the people who are still constantly defending Punk are living vicariously through him. They see him as someone they wish they could be: someone who rules over everyone and beats up people who say a bad word about him. The problem is they also realize that Punk has become a bastion of toxic masculinity and his behavior is horrible, so therefore his defenders have to place the blame on everyone else for why he acts the way he does and even chastise anyone who wants Punk to be an upstanding worker. The people defending Punk want to be Punk. As was alluded to a bit ago, I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that there is a sizable and very vocal minority of wrestling fans who identify exclusively as part of the "Cult of Cornette," and Punk is currently flying the banner of "guy who hates the Elite." So, all the Cornette stans are going to loudly and publicly defend Punk, here, because Punk clearly being in the wrong vindicates The Elite, and they are Satan incarnate in Corny's eyes. |
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 29, 2023 14:20:36 GMT -5
Especially since his fanbase seems to increasingly be made up of people who miss the days when the locker room was "dog-eat-dog, backstab anyone you can to get to the top, make sure everyone knows you're the roughest son of a bitch in the room". I'm becoming more and more convinced that the people who are still constantly defending Punk are living vicariously through him. They see him as someone they wish they could be: someone who rules over everyone and beats up people who say a bad word about him. The problem is they also realize that Punk has become a bastion of toxic masculinity and his behavior is horrible, so therefore his defenders have to place the blame on everyone else for why he acts the way he does and even chastise anyone who wants Punk to be an upstanding worker. The people defending Punk want to be Punk. We all got a good chuckle from watching Tony’s face during that press scrum, because we’ve all wished we could let our boss or coworkers have it at one time or another. We’ve also all been in the position of having some asshole just constantly talk over us and how aggravating it can be. That said, Tony’s response did not help anyone feel more empathy for him. |
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 29, 2023 14:21:59 GMT -5
Pro wrestling is a hilarious, deeply unserious work environment.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Aug 29, 2023 14:22:07 GMT -5
I've been critical of Miro in the last year or so because he sounds like he's been a headache himself for Tony Khan to deal with. But you know what, fair play to him over all this. Would have been easy for him to say nothing and let the original version of events that Punk leaked where they accused Perry of starting the physical fight be seen as the truth. Punk is obviously higher up the food chain than Perry and Miro has a nice spot for himself on Collision to think about. Instead he stepped up to let everyone know Punk and his camp were lying and pretty much defended Perry. The thing is, Miro's version of being a headache is just chilling if he's not happy. I'll make fun of the guy all day for evidence that he's a primadonna who will sit at home for ages because "that doesn't work for me, brother" - but ultimately, that's a pretty lower-order type of pain in the ass, because if he won't play ball, he's not tanking anyone but himself by keeping himself off TV. It goes hand in hand with how he's handled Punk. He feels untouchable enough to call bluffs, basically. He'll call Tony Khan's bluff that he'll keep paying him even if he's a pain, and he'll call out CM Punk for being a hypocrite. Both appear to be smart assessments of exactly how much power he has to do and say what he wants. |
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 29, 2023 14:24:38 GMT -5
Now I want a reality TV show where wrestlers are given the most mundane jobs and have to co-exist with their co-workers, management, and customers.
WBD, are you listening?
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Post by The Captain on Aug 29, 2023 14:25:06 GMT -5
What's WrestlePete's take on the Punk and Perry suspensions?
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Post by jm on Aug 29, 2023 14:26:28 GMT -5
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 29, 2023 14:26:53 GMT -5
still laughing at that real fight over 95% post
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Aug 29, 2023 14:26:58 GMT -5
I've been critical of Miro in the last year or so because he sounds like he's been a headache himself for Tony Khan to deal with. But you know what, fair play to him over all this. Would have been easy for him to say nothing and let the original version of events that Punk leaked where they accused Perry of starting the physical fight be seen as the truth. Punk is obviously higher up the food chain than Perry and Miro has a nice spot for himself on Collision to think about. Instead he stepped up to let everyone know Punk and his camp were lying and pretty much defended Perry. The thing is, Miro's version of being a headache is just chilling if he's not happy. I'll make fun of the guy all day for evidence that he's a primadonna who will sit at home for ages because "that doesn't work for me, brother" - but ultimately, that's a pretty lower-order type of pain in the ass, because if he won't play ball, he's not tanking anyone but himself by keeping himself off TV. It goes hand in hand with how he's handled Punk. He feels untouchable enough to call bluffs, basically. He'll call Tony Khan's bluff that he'll keep paying him even if he's a pain, and he'll call out CM Punk for being a hypocrite. Both appear to be smart assessments of exactly how much power he has to do and say what he wants.
I was critical of Miro's lack of maturity in handling things with AEW, but let's be honest... the dude is winning at life. He's built like a brick shithouse, he's a legit badass, in his own words, he has a "hot, flexible wife", and if AEW doesn't work out he can go make money by being "Russian thug #458" for the rest of his life.
What I'm saying here is that Miro doesn't give a f***. What's Punk gonna do, fight him? Good luck. Get him fired? See above.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 29, 2023 14:27:11 GMT -5
Lmfao, I am in stitches. So, Punk had, in fact, been informed of his suspension through the proper legal channels, which makes sense given that he's proven himself to be one hell of a litigious motherf***er. But, "his camp" leaked that he had not been informed of a suspension in an effort to make AEW look bad. It's mystifying how the exact same thing keeps happening, repeatedly. One big problem through all of this situation is that Punk's not a reliable narrator. Like a lot of the stuff that got said on the AoW episode has come out as not really playing out in the way he claimed it did and even by the testimonies from the court case it seems like he overexaggerated things a little bit. Not to the point where he's in the wrong in that case at all in my view, but to the point where he'll definitely throw around enough embellishment that it's tough to take a lot of the stuff he says at face value. And those details are f***in' all over like every inch of this past year because of clownshoes nonsense like this. Just diversion shit being leaked to stir up trouble and make people think there's bigger problems coming than there are. Sayinig intentionally misleading stuff that shouldn't even be reported except for the ways n hwich it's deceptively worded to make shit sound worse. The guy who got mad someone fed a rumour to Meltzer has been, this whole time, using every dirtsheet to drill his problems out on every surface he can and it's exhausting. |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 29, 2023 14:27:26 GMT -5
I feel like Samoa Joe is always a teenagey vague poster but I know he’d kill me so I don’t openly mock him about it. I SORT OF get it, because Joe knows damn well what he's saying, and we know damn well what he's saying, but by being just vague enough he has plausible deniability of being drug into the vortex, you know?
I think it's more Joe knows punk too well for punk to do anything, Joe will know where punk's skeletons are buried and even though they are friends he probably has no qualms about knocking punk into the middle of next week verbally or physically if need be. Joe has always struck me as the nice guy you really dont want to piss off sort of person. |
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