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Post by nakedmideon on Dec 18, 2022 15:17:32 GMT -5
Apologies if this is the wrong place to post but i couldn't find it anywhere else.
What's everyones opinions on the recent comments made by Eric Bischoff and Ric Flair towards each other?seems weird with Conrad Thompson right in the middle of it also.
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Post by XIII on Dec 18, 2022 17:25:21 GMT -5
I have no idea what those comments are but Flair and Bischoff are super carnies so they’re probably trying to book a Flair/Hogan match or some such nonsense. lol
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Dec 18, 2022 19:03:01 GMT -5
I have no idea what those comments are but Flair and Bischoff are super carnies so they’re probably trying to book a Flair/Hogan match or some such nonsense. lol The basic jist is Bischoff thinks HE made Flair, and that outside of regional fandom the Horsemen never drew. Flair's rebuttal is that Bischoff is a tool and makes enemies out of everyone. Even people he has made peace with. It's either Bischoff trying to stir some shit and stay relevant, or... It's a work of some kind. Unlikely, but hey, everything is a potential work these days.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2022 19:11:07 GMT -5
I do think that Flair sought more mainstream appeal... from Hulk Hogan, which is why he's always been readily available to job to him any time it was asked. The NWA didn't have anywhere near the same level of "pop culture" currency the WWF did. But I question how much Bischoff really gave him, though, like Flair didn't consider jumping to the WWF in 1998 or so because things were going super great for him in WCW. I don't really trust either guy a hell of a lot, but on this, Flair's the one I agree with. Savor it, Ric, I won't make a habit of it.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 18, 2022 19:35:04 GMT -5
My "it's a work" sense is tingling!!!
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Dec 18, 2022 19:41:24 GMT -5
100% working some kind of angle. Totally random and it's well known Bischoff and Flair have been friends for years now.
Flair also went off on JR over his Dark Side of the Ring comments which seemed pretty bold/stupid as the whole tactic on the back of that previously seemed to be keep Flair's head low for a while then never mention it again.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 23, 2022 3:57:59 GMT -5
Meh Both of those sad carny bastards can f*** off for all I care.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 23, 2022 11:10:10 GMT -5
They're as bad as each other.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 23, 2022 12:56:07 GMT -5
Yeah, this is some carny bullshit.
On a related note though how many major wrestling podcast networks are there?
I lose track of what is what, but off the top of my head.
The Ad Free Family (all of the Conrad podcasts)
Arcadian Vanguard (Run by Brian Last and features Jim Cornette)
MLW Radio Network (Current Shows include Raven, Blue Meanie, and Jerry Lynn)
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Post by chronocross on Dec 23, 2022 13:08:11 GMT -5
Sounds like a work to me, trying to drum up interest for some angle or show they're planning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 13:13:03 GMT -5
Aren't they always going back and forth between hating each other and being friends?
This just seems like the usual.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 23, 2022 13:13:55 GMT -5
I think Bischoff and Flair are working something.
Now in terms of a real podcast war Vince Russo is trying to start stuff with Jeff Jarrett
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Post by cjh on Dec 23, 2022 13:30:54 GMT -5
Nah, this isn't leading to anything. Bischoff did a 180 this week and wouldn't continue further, while Flair kept it up on his show. Flair was apparently really pissed about Bischoff saying "I had to teach him a lesson" on Flair's upcoming documentary when discussing the 1998 lawsuits between WCW and Flair.
Flair has been trashing anyone who has said anything slightly negative about him recently, including Bischoff, Jim Ross, and others. He even went after Arn Anderson a few weeks ago. On Arn's podcast, they're going over his career by the month, and on the late-1990 episodes, that meant Arn trashing the Black Scorpion angle. Flair got offended over that somehow since he was involved, even though Arn was clearly attacking the storyline itself and WCW management, not Flair.
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Post by tafkaga on Dec 23, 2022 14:52:23 GMT -5
Bischoff isn't exactly wrong. Flair and the Horsemen were names in the southeast among rasslin fans and people who read Apter mags, but they weren't draws anywhere else. It's also true that the level of national exposure they received working for Bischoff was far more significant than any they'd had before. Of course Bischoff is full of shit to say he "MADE" Flair but I'm sure he knows that. Dude went into full Easy E heel character when Conrad called him out over it.
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Post by nickcave on Dec 23, 2022 17:10:24 GMT -5
Flair just seems grumpy and mad at the world right now, pretty sad
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 23, 2022 18:29:10 GMT -5
Nah, this isn't leading to anything. Bischoff did a 180 this week and wouldn't continue further, while Flair kept it up on his show. Flair was apparently really pissed about Bischoff saying "I had to teach him a lesson" on Flair's upcoming documentary when discussing the 1998 lawsuits between WCW and Flair. Flair has been trashing anyone who has said anything slightly negative about him recently, including Bischoff, Jim Ross, and others. He even went after Arn Anderson a few weeks ago. On Arn's podcast, they're going over his career by the month, and on the late-1990 episodes, that meant Arn trashing the Black Scorpion angle. Flair got offended over that somehow since he was involved, even though Arn was clearly attacking the storyline itself and WCW management, not Flair. It feels especially stupid coming off of the retirement show, where you'd think he'd be riding high right now. I guess he's probably stir crazy, on account of being Ric Flair.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Dec 24, 2022 5:55:12 GMT -5
Nah, this isn't leading to anything. Bischoff did a 180 this week and wouldn't continue further, while Flair kept it up on his show. Flair was apparently really pissed about Bischoff saying "I had to teach him a lesson" on Flair's upcoming documentary when discussing the 1998 lawsuits between WCW and Flair. Flair has been trashing anyone who has said anything slightly negative about him recently, including Bischoff, Jim Ross, and others. He even went after Arn Anderson a few weeks ago. On Arn's podcast, they're going over his career by the month, and on the late-1990 episodes, that meant Arn trashing the Black Scorpion angle. Flair got offended over that somehow since he was involved, even though Arn was clearly attacking the storyline itself and WCW management, not Flair. It feels especially stupid coming off of the retirement show, where you'd think he'd be riding high right now. I guess he's probably stir crazy, on account of being Ric Flair. That's all I can put it down to, he's bored with time on his hands to pick up on every Flair related soundbite and now has a platform (again) to fire back. I love pro-wrestler Flair but for him to start questioning how many real friends Bischoff has shows, once again, a staggering lack of self-awareness. It also seems like WWE being willing to showcase him again has got his tail up, shockingly he now has nothing but nice things to say about anyone who might send a cheque his way anytime soon.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 24, 2022 6:09:32 GMT -5
It feels especially stupid coming off of the retirement show, where you'd think he'd be riding high right now. I guess he's probably stir crazy, on account of being Ric Flair. That's all I can put it down to, he's bored with time on his hands to pick up on every Flair related soundbite and now has a platform (again) to fire back. I love pro-wrestler Flair but for him to start questioning how many real friends Bischoff has shows, once again, a staggering lack of self-awareness. It also seems like WWE being willing to showcase him again has got his tail up, shockingly he now has nothing but nice things to say about anyone who might send a cheque his way anytime soon. That's another factor, I guess. He wants to start shit to get his podcast over to make some cash. Like, I am sure Arn's good on money, Jarrett's probably doing okay by now despite TNA likely wiping him out, it's been long enough, and I'm sure Bischoff's doing nicely, but Flair has virtually never saved anything in his life. He's probably pissed off that Dark Side of the Ring cost him probably getting a couple of AEW show checks latched onto Andrade, and he's lashing out to try to bank.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 24, 2022 6:52:49 GMT -5
Shane Douglas made an astute point recently that Richard Fliehr as person doesn't really exist anymore and that (like Hulk Hogan) Ric Flair the performer has completely taken over to the point where he can't really do anything except work people as the Nature Boy. Even if Flair had money, quietly enjoying retirement and just experiencing his golden years isn't something he's actually capable of. If he can't wrestle (and god knows that last match of his certainly suggests as much), it could be that simply feuding with people online may be the closest he can actually get to that feeling of being in ring again.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 27, 2022 1:59:46 GMT -5
What people always forget is that it was the 1995 Ric Flair vs Randy Savage feud that really helped build/re-build (depending how cynical one wants to be) WCW as a touring entity. Hogan wasn't really going near the house shows, and Flair vs Savage delivered and delivered and delivered - a literal draw by the very definition of the word. If those two weren't able to lay that foundation in '95, who knows how WCW 96 and onward would really have gone.
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