Dragon Lee to WWE

[hashtagdaley/JudasDay]

Dec 28, 2022 23:18:02 GMT -5 Jumpin' Jesse Walsh said:

I hope he goes to NXT and has a totally not gay bromance with Von Wagner.

::::offers Dragon Lee a beer::::

Dragon, chuckles; “Vin Wagner, you’re so out there man!”

[XIII]

Dec 28, 2022 23:48:47 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Dec 28, 2022 23:35:35 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

I still have lots of doubts about whether this could even work or if it would be good for the industry:

Great news for the tire industry because so much shit is getting slashed if this happens

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that the cartels are heavily involved in Mexican wrestling. This should be interesting.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Dec 28, 2022 23:58:31 GMT -5 XIII said:

Dec 28, 2022 23:48:47 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Great news for the tire industry because so much shit is getting slashed if this happens

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that the cartels are heavily involved in Mexican wrestling. This should be interesting.

Road Dogg would accidentally start a gang war if he went down there to run NXT Mexico. 

[06vwgti]

Dec 28, 2022 23:35:35 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

I still have lots of doubts about whether this could even work or if it would be good for the industry:

The original map didnt have Mexico...

[jhbboy198917]

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["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

WHY DOES HE NEED TO GO TO NXT?

Anyway, time will tell how he does. Odds improve now that Hunter is in control from top to bottom but even he struggled to use some of his smaller international guys like Kushida. They clearly value Lee and want this signing to be a big deal and I'm sure he'll have great matches. But I wonder if he can truly be the star they've been wanting for 20 years - the next Rey Mysterio.

[theironyuppie]

ESPN's report is interesting, including Finn Balor's role in this:

Lee said he spoke in the past with former WWE talent relations exec Canyon Ceman, but the ball got rolling again after a conversation with WWE star Finn Balor a few months ago. Lee then worked with James Kimball and Trent Wilfinger, WWE talent strategy and development mavens, en route to signing a contract in early December.

"[Balor] told me, 'Would you like to be in WWE?'" Lee said with a laugh. "I said, 'Yeah, sure. Why not?' ... It was something special for me."

One of Lee's goals, he said, was to work on becoming a more well-rounded performer. In the ring, he is one of the top wrestlers in the world with the ability to work different styles from lucha libre to striking-heavy strong style to a technical, mat-based match. Lee said he has been diligently working on his English and his ability to connect with fans on the microphone.

"It's my challenge to learn more about promos," Lee said. "You will never finish learning in pro wrestling. But every time you wrestle, you learn. But about promos, it's something new for me. I would like to learn something new, how to become not just a wrestler -- an artist."

Word of mouth has been an underappreciated factor in the recent wave of returns/signings. Wrestlers experiencing the new era and being able to tell others outside the company how things have changed must be helpful motivation.

[lucas_lee]

Why do I have a feeling this signing is HHH's attempt at redemption after the Mistico debacle?

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 29, 2022 0:12:27 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

"This is for all the people who trusted me, WWE there I go!"

AAA giving him a belt like "WTF bro WE trusted you!!" lmfao

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 28, 2022 23:35:35 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

I still have lots of doubts about whether this could even work or if it would be good for the industry:

There always has to be a condition to make this not good news and have a dark cloud hang over shit

This is the newest one in that department, fun, HHH pondering that stupid NXT global idea again. Dude's really not fooling anyone and I really hope this shit doesn't happen.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 29, 2022 0:15:10 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

WHY DOES HE NEED TO GO TO NXT?

Anyway, time will tell how he does. Odds improve now that Hunter is in control from top to bottom but even he struggled to use some of his smaller international guys like Kushida. They clearly value Lee and want this signing to be a big deal and I'm sure he'll have great matches. But I wonder if he can truly be the star they've been wanting for 20 years - the next Rey Mysterio.

The reason I assume is character work/promo work

But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Dec 29, 2022 0:49:22 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Dec 29, 2022 0:15:10 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

WHY DOES HE NEED TO GO TO NXT?

Anyway, time will tell how he does. Odds improve now that Hunter is in control from top to bottom but even he struggled to use some of his smaller international guys like Kushida. They clearly value Lee and want this signing to be a big deal and I'm sure he'll have great matches. But I wonder if he can truly be the star they've been wanting for 20 years - the next Rey Mysterio.

The reason I assume is character work/promo work

But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee.

I just don't think that requires NXT. The Rock became the Rock by traveling the country on the road with the main crew at the time. He can learn English on the road and use language apps as he travels. He's going to be one of the most talented guys on your roster on day one. He's found a persona that works for him. I think he's as close to a finished product as you're going to find out there. And NXT is going to start getting to a place where there's folks who aren't getting TV time that could actually use it so it just feels unnecessary. 

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Dec 29, 2022 0:49:22 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Dec 29, 2022 0:15:10 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

WHY DOES HE NEED TO GO TO NXT?

Anyway, time will tell how he does. Odds improve now that Hunter is in control from top to bottom but even he struggled to use some of his smaller international guys like Kushida. They clearly value Lee and want this signing to be a big deal and I'm sure he'll have great matches. But I wonder if he can truly be the star they've been wanting for 20 years - the next Rey Mysterio.

The reason I assume is character work/promo work

But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee.

Pray tell, what happened to Iyo that seems to imply that she’s damaged goods now?

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 29, 2022 0:51:36 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Dec 29, 2022 0:49:22 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The reason I assume is character work/promo work

But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee.

I just don't think that requires NXT. The Rock became the Rock by traveling the country on the road with the main crew at the time. He can learn English on the road and use language apps as he travels. He's going to be one of the most talented guys on your roster on day one. He's found a persona that works for him. I think he's as close to a finished product as you're going to find out there. And NXT is going to start getting to a place where there's folks who aren't getting TV time that could actually use it so it just feels unnecessary. 

I think if he has a few matches with the likes of Hayes it would be really good for them though, like big time learning experience from one of the best to elevate that talent, so I get it in the short term

I do think long term though he needs to be on the main roster soon, and have a Rumble spot.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 29, 2022 0:53:40 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Dec 29, 2022 0:49:22 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The reason I assume is character work/promo work

But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee.

Pray tell, what happened to Iyo that seems to imply that she’s damaged goods now?

Nothing at all, there was just a point in time where a lot of people thought Io had been in NXT WAY too long and should have been called up ages before she was, especially when she was still around it in the onset of the 2.0 era

So she's not damaged goods at all, my example was if Lee's having an NXT run, don't let it last so long that it feels like a purgatory, with Vince gone, hopefully it doesn't

[jhbboy198917]

Melo, Axiom, Wes Lee, Dijak, Tony D, Frazer, Waller, Bron, Chase, Dempsey & Gacy are all guys I'd like to see Dragon Lee wrestle in NXT

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

He's been in ROH but not really on U.S. national TV so more so just getting used to the "WWE system" and knowing where the cameras are is really what I see for him over a few months

HHH seems to be wanting to go back into getting some more established talent in NXT and not like Lee is going to have an instant game changing program on the main roster. Let him get used to the waters, there is no real downside

[Mozenrath]

Dec 28, 2022 23:35:35 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

I still have lots of doubts about whether this could even work or if it would be good for the industry:

It emphatically would not be, honestly, if NXT UK is an indication of how they'd run it.

Reminds me of Minoru Suzuki saying Mexico and Japan were the last bastions against WWE homogenizing wrestling worldwide.

[Toates Madhackrviper]

WWE's post-Rey track record with luchadors is not good but I hope for good things for Dragon Lee. I like the guy.

[Alice Syndrome]

Dec 28, 2022 22:43:42 GMT -5 ace said:

If you want to him at his best watch his match with Ospreay from Dominion 2019

Also any match vs Hiromu.

Yes even the one where he breaks Hiromu's neck