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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 29, 2022 10:35:39 GMT -5
This is a signing where I can definitively say WWE needs to prove something to me about it than Lee needing to prove anything to them. He’s great, I’ve seen enough of him to know that. But WWE has tried to find a new Rey Mysterio since Rey Mysterio and couldn’t book one well enough to justify it and even the Rey Mysterio they have they’ve undercooked with booking. The thing about a "New Rey Mysterio" is that a "New Rey Mysterio" needs a "New Eddie Guerrero" to have a run-defining rivalry with. I don’t even think he needs that, mostly because most Hispanic wrestlers didn’t need that. What they needed to do was to make him seem important and not emphases the fact he’s smaller than everyone else and an underdog except that’s 99% of Mysterio’s WWE career.
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Dec 29, 2022 10:47:24 GMT -5
Dragon Lee vs Axiom Dragon Lee vs Nathan Frazer Dragon Lee vs Wes Lee Dragon Lee vs Carmelo Hayes
DRAGON LEE VS VON WAGNER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Post by avenger on Dec 29, 2022 10:54:10 GMT -5
Probably just trying to avoid what happened with OG Sin Cara. Thats my opinion anyway. I will say with Lee that should be less of an issue. Sin Cara only knew one way to work, very strict Lucha Libre, which is why he fumbled and bumbled so many of his spots Draogn Lee can do Lucha, Puro, Technical, even Power wrestling and he's done so multiple times over the years. He's well versed in many technical aspects. I assume he'll need to be trained in WWE cues like hard cam and such, though I would hope with Vince gone, some of those tropes have lessened or died. Sin Cara was also working with a mask that had to darken his vision, and mood lighting, that can't have helped.
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Post by Fade on Dec 29, 2022 10:58:10 GMT -5
If you want to him at his best watch his match with Ospreay from Dominion 2019 Also any match vs Hiromu. Yes even the one where he breaks Hiromu's neck I was there live. Such an insane Match. Such a scary aftermath waiting to hear on Hiromu’s condition.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Dec 29, 2022 11:02:32 GMT -5
The thing is with a hypothetical NXT Mexico, I don't really envision a scenario in which it actually succeeds. Leaving aside the cartel stuff, NXT UK did alright and that was after nobbling almost all of the competition, and even then a lot of fans were f***ed off that WWE had turned up and given them a watered-down version of a product that was massively influenced by WWE and in a country where WWE had been the dominant promotion for most of the past thirty years; NXT Mexico isn't going to just go in and steamroller AAA and CMLL, and who is going to watch Triple H's Very Authentic Mexican Wrestling when they can watch actual Mexican wrestling? If it happens I think it'll end up a higher effort version of Super Astros from the late nineties.
With regards to Dragon Lee, I'm inclined to agree with others: obviously you'd hope he succeeds, but history isn't exactly on anyone's side here. We'll see.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Dec 29, 2022 11:05:17 GMT -5
I'm surprised he didn't sign with AEW given his dad, Keith, already works there Well, now he gets to work with his cousin, Wes.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 29, 2022 11:52:29 GMT -5
Just like 2022 to end with a story like this.
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Post by chrom on Dec 29, 2022 12:04:45 GMT -5
Apparently he's the first of many standout talent that HHH is going to sign.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 29, 2022 12:10:15 GMT -5
Apparently he's the first of many standout talent that HHH is going to sign. Turns out that going all in on just scouting athletes means many aren't anywhere near ready to be on NXT let alone Raw or Smackdown so you need to get trained wrestlers as well. And that's not a shot at NXT. I honestly think they've done decent enough training people from scratch. I just think WWE has hurt so many wrestlers brands on Raw and Smackdown that they need people ready to go asap
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Post by Totorob101 on Dec 29, 2022 12:25:44 GMT -5
Great talent but i just feel he would be a better fit for AEW then WWE which despite new personel backstage and all,there will still be doubts as to weither they will use him proplery or not. They wasted Hideo Itami, Kushida and Sarray is AWOL who is wasting away even more under Hunter.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 29, 2022 12:38:11 GMT -5
Great talent but i just feel he would be a better fit for AEW then WWE which despite new personel backstage and all,there will still be doubts as to weither they will use him proplery or not. They wasted Hideo Itami, Kushida and Sarray is AWOL who is wasting away even more under Hunter. To be fair, Itami had shoulder issues that kept him on the shelf for much of his run in WWE.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 29, 2022 12:39:42 GMT -5
I kinda hope his new name is sorta cool.
Granted, it wouldn’t take much to be better than Dragon Lee but still. Something fancy
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Dec 29, 2022 13:49:06 GMT -5
I'm half was expecting his name to be Dragon WWE, or Lee Gonzales or something like that.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 29, 2022 14:23:01 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 29, 2022 14:31:42 GMT -5
Also any match vs Hiromu. Yes even the one where he breaks Hiromu's neck I was there live. Such an insane Match. Such a scary aftermath waiting to hear on Hiromu’s condition. Yep, same here; there was definitely a wave of confusion that ran through the crowd once Hiromu got hurt, there wasn't any way to know immediately what had happened, but the word started spreading quick. Can't say I didn't get an unpleasant chill thinking "oh no, please don't tell me I was just here live for Hiromu's last match". Him being alright was great enough, him still thriving still feels miraculous. On the idea of the whole "next Rey Mysterio" thing, I sincerely hope they wouldn't be thinking that for Dragon Lee. First off, it's ridiculously reductive to treat new Mexican signings this way, the same way it always felt weird when people would say "New Nation!" any time some combination of black wrestlers were shown together on screen. More specifically to Lee, though, is that he isn't the same kind of wrestler Rey is: he's not smaller than everyone, so he's not a universal underdog, and his offensive style isn't like Rey's. Where Rey would use his agility and superhuman quickness to pull off the kinds of moves that made a guy his size defeating larger opponents believable, Lee, while certainly being an accomplished flier, thrives more in a strong style kind of match, where strikes, suplexes, and submissions play a big role. Dude's got some of the heaviest hands you'll hear when he starts chopping, you're better off getting him over as someone capable of standing toe to toe with most opponents (obviously he can be outsized by the legit giants).
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 29, 2022 14:50:31 GMT -5
If you want to him at his best watch his match with Ospreay from Dominion 2019 Also any match vs Hiromu. Yes even the one where he breaks Hiromu's neck Their match at Final Battle 2017 was sheer insanity. I remember watching that match live thinking, one of these guys is gonna break their neck... And 7 months later what happened?
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 29, 2022 14:54:52 GMT -5
Not too surprised by this. As I posted in another thread a few weeks ago, I saw Gabe Sapolsky at the King of Indies tournament last month. Dragon Lee has won the KOI tournament the last 3 times it's been held, 2018 (the night before he broke Hiromu's neck), 2019 and 2022. It was obvious once I saw Gabe that night that WWE was back scouting Indy talent now that Vince is gone.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 29, 2022 15:06:37 GMT -5
Great talent but i just feel he would be a better fit for AEW then WWE which despite new personel backstage and all,there will still be doubts as to weither they will use him proplery or not. They wasted Hideo Itami, Kushida and Sarray is AWOL who is wasting away even more under Hunter. Lee was in AEW... for one night. His own brother (Rush) turned on him for no reason and unmasked him. There was no follow up whatsoever, because Tony Khan booking. 2 or 3 years ago I would have said a luchador would have a much better chance in AEW than WWE. But with AEW's erratic booking and now you see them, now you don't appearances from their wrestlers, I'm not so sure.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 29, 2022 15:09:24 GMT -5
It was noted in the report I read that Dralisitico also tried out but they passed on him and invited Dragon Lee to a second tryout and he got offered a contract after that. Good. I had never seen Dralistico before Final Battle this year. After HE botched the finish he hit AR Fox with an unprotected chair shot to the head like AR was the one who messed up. I would be perfectly fine never seeing Dralistico again. f*** that guy.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 29, 2022 16:25:04 GMT -5
Julius Creed looking at dude like oh but *I'm* the one who needs to put pants on
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