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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 29, 2022 3:01:06 GMT -5
I still have lots of doubts about whether this could even work or if it would be good for the industry: It emphatically would not be, honestly, if NXT UK is an indication of how they'd run it. Reminds me of Minoru Suzuki saying Mexico and Japan were the last bastions against WWE homogenizing wrestling worldwide. From what I gather, WWE is currently more popular in Mexico than either AAA or CMLL, so they probably have a leg up there. As far as Japan, WWE may have a following there, but it will never eclipse NJPW, with the inverse being true here.
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Post by Legion on Dec 29, 2022 3:38:13 GMT -5
It emphatically would not be, honestly, if NXT UK is an indication of how they'd run it. Reminds me of Minoru Suzuki saying Mexico and Japan were the last bastions against WWE homogenizing wrestling worldwide. From what I gather, WWE is currently more popular in Mexico than either AAA or CMLL, so they probably have a leg up there. As far as Japan, WWE may have a following there, but it will never eclipse NJPW, with the inverse being true here. If you look at the map, they seem to suggest the idea of an NXT China that includes Japan, rather than a NXT Japan - assuming the logos are placed over the base territory.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 29, 2022 4:54:04 GMT -5
WHY DOES HE NEED TO GO TO NXT? Anyway, time will tell how he does. Odds improve now that Hunter is in control from top to bottom but even he struggled to use some of his smaller international guys like Kushida. They clearly value Lee and want this signing to be a big deal and I'm sure he'll have great matches. But I wonder if he can truly be the star they've been wanting for 20 years - the next Rey Mysterio. The reason I assume is character work/promo work But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee. Probably just trying to avoid what happened with OG Sin Cara. Thats my opinion anyway.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2022 5:23:58 GMT -5
The reason I assume is character work/promo work But he really, really shouldn't be there that long. Don't let what happened to Iyo happen to Lee. Probably just trying to avoid what happened with OG Sin Cara. Thats my opinion anyway. I will say with Lee that should be less of an issue. Sin Cara only knew one way to work, very strict Lucha Libre, which is why he fumbled and bumbled so many of his spots Draogn Lee can do Lucha, Puro, Technical, even Power wrestling and he's done so multiple times over the years. He's well versed in many technical aspects. I assume he'll need to be trained in WWE cues like hard cam and such, though I would hope with Vince gone, some of those tropes have lessened or died.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2022 5:36:21 GMT -5
I am okay with Dragon Lee going to NXT first, but I do wonder how much repackaging is going to happen. I doubt they unmask him, as there'd really be zero point in doing so, but otherwise, I am curious.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 29, 2022 5:38:53 GMT -5
This one will be interesting to see: with regards to Dragon Lee's style it's not immediately exciting to me (though matches against Dijak and Gunther/Walter would be pretty sick) since I feel he's got much more of a NJPW flavor to his work, and WWE's luchadore track record doesn't inspire a lot of hope. However, this isn't Vince's WWE anymore, and we haven't yet seen how someone with Lee's status gets used between NXT and the main roster without Vince's presence making things complicated.
Lee is a special in-ring talent and has intense die-hard babyface charisma; if the pandemic never happened there's a good chance he'd be on a NJPW contract that'd just be running out after January 4th. But his in-ring style isn't exactly the traditional WWE style, so there'll have to be some changes on his part and/or concessions on WWE's part, and again it'll be an intriguing test of where the post-Vince era is focusing and how different it could end up being.
That said, if this is part of another attempt at "NXT (insert nation/region here)", that can go @#$% off and leave everyone else alone, thank you very much. Let Lee be successful on his own without trying to reinvigorate a plan to essentially destroy global pro wrestling.
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Post by canceled4truth on Dec 29, 2022 7:20:15 GMT -5
I'm surprised he didn't sign with AEW given his dad, Keith, already works there
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 29, 2022 8:30:47 GMT -5
Great news for the tire industry because so much shit is getting slashed if this happens I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that the cartels are heavily involved in Mexican wrestling. This should be interesting. The cartels basically control the Mexican indies.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 29, 2022 8:31:10 GMT -5
If this were still a Vince Mcmahon ran WWE I wouldn't be that confident..Give it a few weeks and he would be one of the guys running after the 24/7 Title.
However hopefully with HHH he should do alright.
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Post by thirteen3 on Dec 29, 2022 8:34:46 GMT -5
May he be a genuine good acquisition and new bonafide star.
And not another accursed "New Rey Mysterio". Seriously anyone who gets sold to me with that moniker I just just ignore now.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 29, 2022 9:13:03 GMT -5
"This is for all the people who trusted me, WWE there I go!" AAA giving him a belt like "WTF bro WE trusted you!!" lmfao Tony Khan should take some blame as well. He had the chance to make last weeks FTR vs The Ass Boys for the AAA Tag Team Championship. Dude really dropped the ball on that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 9:16:17 GMT -5
Dragon Lee vs Axiom will legit kill me from excitement I freaking love Axiom. I can't believe someone found a way to make me a fan of A-Kid.
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Post by chrom on Dec 29, 2022 9:20:47 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that the cartels are heavily involved in Mexican wrestling. This should be interesting. The cartels basically control the Mexican indies. And everything else in Mexico.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 29, 2022 9:38:20 GMT -5
I'm surprised he didn't sign with AEW given his dad, Keith, already works there Well his brothers do so that's an interesting point
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 29, 2022 9:50:37 GMT -5
This is a signing where I can definitively say WWE needs to prove something to me about it than Lee needing to prove anything to them.
He’s great, I’ve seen enough of him to know that. But WWE has tried to find a new Rey Mysterio since Rey Mysterio and couldn’t book one well enough to justify it and even the Rey Mysterio they have they’ve undercooked with booking.
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Post by SneakMan on Dec 29, 2022 10:05:22 GMT -5
That said, if this is part of another attempt at "NXT (insert nation/region here)", that can go @#$% off and leave everyone else alone, thank you very much. Oh you know that's 100% what this is. Papi H is just as much in the empire business as Vince was. That said, hope Dragon Lee does well - he's certainly in a much better position to thrive under H than he ever would've under Vince. Personally I'm glad I got to see him when I was able to.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 29, 2022 10:05:52 GMT -5
This is a signing where I can definitively say WWE needs to prove something to me about it than Lee needing to prove anything to them. He’s great, I’ve seen enough of him to know that. But WWE has tried to find a new Rey Mysterio since Rey Mysterio and couldn’t book one well enough to justify it and even the Rey Mysterio they have they’ve undercooked with booking. The thing about a "New Rey Mysterio" is that a "New Rey Mysterio" needs a "New Eddie Guerrero" to have a run-defining rivalry with.
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Post by Talent Name on Dec 29, 2022 10:23:29 GMT -5
Can't wait for his brother Frank to sign
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 29, 2022 10:24:01 GMT -5
Not really a surprise but Meltzer confirmed he's going to be getting NXT money to start. Hopefully it's a short stay and he can get the main roster money pretty quickly (minimum 250K).
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 29, 2022 10:28:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised he didn't sign with AEW given his dad, Keith, already works there His brother Wes is signed to WWE though.
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