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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 30, 2022 18:21:26 GMT -5
For simplicity’s sake let’s say it starts in 2023. Tony still has final say and the financial backing is still the Khans. But day to day creative and long term storytelling is all Paul.
This thread is inspired by a recent podcast discussion that posed this very question. A similarly controversial figure we’re not allowed to talk about in these here parts was asked this hypothetical. The tennis racket one, not the bro one.
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Post by tntchamp on Dec 30, 2022 18:27:18 GMT -5
For simplicity’s sake let’s say it starts in 2023. Tony still has final say and the financial backing is still the Khans. But day to day creative and long term storytelling is all Paul. This thread is inspired by a recent podcast discussion that posed this very question. A similarly controversial figure we’re not allowed to talk about in these here parts was asked this hypothetical. The tennis racket one, not the bro one. Certainly would be a interesting scenario. I think more so then Tony Khan he would know how to book to wrestlers strengths and what works for them and what doesn't work. I think he would also try to balance out everything such as keeping guys hot and the next step with them is once that momentum is gained. Paul Heyman is certainly creative and has a great mind.
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Post by FinalGwen on Dec 30, 2022 18:28:45 GMT -5
Lots more cuckold based storylines, bankrupt within a few years?
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 30, 2022 18:29:47 GMT -5
Hell of a weekly TV show until 2/3rd of the talent is out injured and calling to ask why their checks aren't clearing.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 30, 2022 18:29:54 GMT -5
Sammy Guevara gets cucked by Miro, who shows up with Tay on the stage.
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Post by XIII on Dec 30, 2022 18:38:03 GMT -5
Sammy Guevara gets cucked by Miro, who shows up with Tay on the stage. Miro then gets Uno reverse cucked(but this time it’s “real!”) when Brock shows up with Lana. Paul’s days as a creative force are done, let’s stop trying to bring back dudes from the 90s!
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Dec 30, 2022 18:40:37 GMT -5
For simplicity’s sake let’s say it starts in 2023. Tony still has final say and the financial backing is still the Khans. But day to day creative and long term storytelling is all Paul. This thread is inspired by a recent podcast discussion that posed this very question. A similarly controversial figure we’re not allowed to talk about in these here parts was asked this hypothetical. The tennis racket one, not the bro one. Paul Heyman may be good at creative, but he's an immature idiot at times. His first night on TNN, he started a feud with the network that was one of the primary reasons ECW went under. He's also a habitual liar who takes credit for things he had no hand in.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 30, 2022 18:41:49 GMT -5
Does Heyman have any experience booking a decent women's wrestling division? Genuine question. ECW was stuck in the time period where women only existed to be the jerk-off fantasies of 14 year olds and I think his WWE booking years predated women's wrestling being taken seriously as well. I wouldn't want him anywhere near AEW if the small progress made with AEW's women's division is going to stall or go backwards.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Dec 30, 2022 18:48:47 GMT -5
Does Heyman have any experience booking a decent women's wrestling division? Genuine question. ECW was stuck in the time period where women only existed to be the jerk-off fantasies of 14 year olds and I think his WWE booking years predated women's wrestling being taken seriously as well. I wouldn't want him anywhere near AEW if the small progress made with AEW's women's division is going to stall or go backwards. I remember him getting credit for the good parts of the Kabuki Warriors run on Raw, but I might have some timeline mix-up there - I invite anyone with a better sense to confirm.
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Post by Fade on Dec 30, 2022 19:03:58 GMT -5
I’ve thought about this a lot and come to the conclusion it wouldn’t work. Everything would drastically change from how AEW has been.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 30, 2022 19:09:38 GMT -5
We saw what happens when Paul writes storylines in recent years.
Lots of weird fetish storylines.
Hard pass.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Dec 30, 2022 19:10:16 GMT -5
Does Heyman have any experience booking a decent women's wrestling division? Genuine question. ECW was stuck in the time period where women only existed to be the jerk-off fantasies of 14 year olds and I think his WWE booking years predated women's wrestling being taken seriously as well. I wouldn't want him anywhere near AEW if the small progress made with AEW's women's division is going to stall or go backwards. Smackdown 6 era was a very relative (IT WAS STILL PRETTY BAD) step up in terms of the women actually getting to have real proper matches, but I don't think that had rly anything to do with Paul because the dude that all the Ruthless Aggression era women loved backstage who actually gave a f*** was Dave Finlay. Source: I had the Network on in bed one time and the Ruthless Aggression doc was on and Finlay's bald head was making a difference
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Dec 30, 2022 19:12:46 GMT -5
Everyone would be getting more used to taking one for the team than they ever have been in their lives but the Kabuki Warriors would be fire.
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Post by Andee9001 on Dec 30, 2022 19:17:10 GMT -5
If Khan handled the money and could keep the pursestrings tightened and learn to say no then maybe that would be fine.
Heyman being strictly creative i think would be fine. He has his tropes. Cuck storylines, useless entourages, champions losing multi-person matches early and most importantly taking chances with younger guys and showing off their strenghts. Whether or not he could handle the stress at his age would be the big thing. If he took over the running of ROH i think it would work better.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 30, 2022 19:21:18 GMT -5
Tony: "Okay Paul, I'm going to let you write the show now, don't go putting in any weird cuck storylines."
Paul: "Don't worry Tony, I won't, wink."
Tony: "Paul, why did you say wink? You didn't even physically wink, you just said the word. I mean it, no cuck storylines."
Paul: "You know what, you're stifling my creativity and I can't work in this enviroment. I'm fat and I'm tired and you're a f***ing child!"
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Post by FinalGwen on Dec 30, 2022 19:41:48 GMT -5
We saw what happens when Paul writes storylines in recent years. Lots of weird fetish storylines. Hard pass. I don't mind weird fetishes, but when it was tied so specifically into weird toxic ideas of masculinity...
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Post by Glitch on Dec 30, 2022 19:44:36 GMT -5
No, based on the idea that we need new blood in this industry with new ideas. We don't need to fall back on the same names.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Dec 30, 2022 19:47:55 GMT -5
No, based on the idea that we need new blood in this industry with new ideas. We don't need to fall back on the same names. I remember some dirtsheet report saying that an internal reaction to Heyman and Bischoff getting brought in for booking was "Dear God, Vince really is out of ideas." And like...yeah. Even if he'd picked Gabe Sapolsky for it, that wouldn't be great or anything, but it would be an acknowledgment that time has passed since 1999, y'know?
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Dec 30, 2022 19:49:37 GMT -5
For simplicity’s sake let’s say it starts in 2023. Tony still has final say and the financial backing is still the Khans. But day to day creative and long term storytelling is all Paul. This thread is inspired by a recent podcast discussion that posed this very question. A similarly controversial figure we’re not allowed to talk about in these here parts was asked this hypothetical. The tennis racket one, not the bro one. Paul Heyman may be good at creative, but he's an immature idiot at times. His first night on TNN, he started a feud with the network that was one of the primary reasons ECW went under. He's also a habitual liar who takes credit for things he had no hand in. So he's a wrestling promoter, basically.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 30, 2022 20:26:43 GMT -5
Heyman's a product of his time. He isn't as much an obstinate fossil as say, Cornette or Russo. But his most recent creative endeavors in WWE were really bad, too. Like not even just the cuckold storylines, but the absolutely putrid Ronda Rousey worked shoot stuff was apparently at his direction, too.
We need new booking voices in wrestling, not trying to retread the same people in an attempt to recreate the glory days of the 90s.
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