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Post by chrom on Jan 5, 2023 11:19:01 GMT -5
Once he got past the 8 month Team Taz feud, he had a great 1st reign facing all challengers.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 5, 2023 11:24:16 GMT -5
Why the f*** does almost every abuser, alleged or confirmed, on this forum get relentlessly criticized for it but Darby gets a pass from people on here. I'm barely ok with the guy being on television, let alone holding titles. And people are suggesting he move into the Main Event? Imagine the day he wins the world title and he's trending on Twitter (if it still exists) for all the wrong reasons as the allegations get dug back up. If Tony wants to groom Darby for that level, he better order the kid to do some real f***ing serious accountability. Confess, apologize, commit to therapy around the issue, donate a portion of his salary to women's shelters, if Hawlee Cromwell is open to it some voluntary restorative justice would be good. The whole nine. I just don't get why this guy gets a magic pass. Because it was just a toxic relationship, Hawlee stuff could be no different than Kimber Lee going nuts about Zachary Wentz(excluding that mustache picture)
Thats called coercion. Coercion is not consent.
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Post by 4real on Jan 5, 2023 12:38:43 GMT -5
That Sting speech on Rampage pretty much gave it away to me that Darby was winning. That and it being in Seattle of course.
Not sure what this means for Wardlow now. Assume he gets a match with Joe at Revolution and wins whether that’s for the ROH TV Title or not.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 5, 2023 13:11:24 GMT -5
It was a great match and Darby is still over but…yeah, that other stuff isn’t going to go away the higher he rises up the card.
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on Jan 5, 2023 13:38:46 GMT -5
As far as Darby's allegations go, that would require a massive backlash from WBD Brass and advertisers to force Tony Khan to change course on Darby and I just don't see it happening anytime soon if at all.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jan 5, 2023 13:52:28 GMT -5
As far as Darby's allegations go, that would require a massive backlash from WBD Brass and advertisers to force Tony Khan to change course on Darby and I just don't see it happening anytime soon if at all. Pretty much. As someone who read the allegations and reacted viscerally to them because they hit very close to home, I fully expect nothing to ever come of them. There's not a word of it that's legally actionable, which leaves it in the realm of reputation, and that battle seems to have been won by Darby and AEW regardless of how I feel about it.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 5, 2023 14:41:15 GMT -5
As crazy and entertaining as Darby matches can be, there's always going to be the allegation in the back of my head. Unfortunately, it's a he said, she said thing that can't ever really get any closure one way or another because there's no evidence to either back her up or prove Darby's innocence.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 5, 2023 15:01:54 GMT -5
If I recall, and again could be wrong, when the allegations came out Darby was taken off tv and was investigated. Don't remember the details but I remember them saying that there was nothing substantial to punish him. Only reason I remember I'd They investigated Jimmy Havoc at the same time and he was pretty forthcoming.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jan 5, 2023 15:18:29 GMT -5
If I recall, and again could be wrong, when the allegations came out Darby was taken off tv and was investigated. Don't remember the details but I remember them saying that there was nothing substantial to punish him. Only reason I remember I'd They investigated Jimmy Havoc at the same time and he was pretty forthcoming. Basically it was AEW saying they looked at the evidence and he's clear. Without elaborating what the evidence was. A classic wrestling protecting potential scumbag move
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Post by pinja on Jan 5, 2023 16:02:40 GMT -5
Let it not be forgotten that Darby Allin candidly told how he mistreated homeless people for cash. At best he is a habitual liar.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2023 16:38:55 GMT -5
If I recall, and again could be wrong, when the allegations came out Darby was taken off tv and was investigated. Don't remember the details but I remember them saying that there was nothing substantial to punish him. Only reason I remember I'd They investigated Jimmy Havoc at the same time and he was pretty forthcoming. Basically it was AEW saying they looked at the evidence and he's clear. Without elaborating what the evidence was. A classic wrestling protecting potential scumbag move Or there was simply nothing there to take any action, and there's been nothing since I know every time this topic about Darby comes out, it's a circle, unless anything more comes out, as has been said above, it's a volatile he said, she said, and neither can really be proved right or wrong. Hence, why Darby is just going to keep on keeping on, and this stuff is always just gonna kinda hover around in the background for those who care about it, but if there isn't enough to properly figure out who is telling the truth, Darby's career isn't going to be effected by it, only thing that's gonna happen is that said circle.
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Post by Fade on Jan 5, 2023 16:51:10 GMT -5
Basically it was AEW saying they looked at the evidence and he's clear. Without elaborating what the evidence was. A classic wrestling protecting potential scumbag move Or there was simply nothing there to take any action, and there's been nothing since I know every time this topic about Darby comes out, it's a circle, unless anything more comes out, as has been said above, it's a volatile he said, she said, and neither can really be proved right or wrong. Hence, why Darby is just going to keep on keeping on, and this stuff is always just gonna kinda hover around in the background for those who care about it, but if there isn't enough to properly figure out who is telling the truth, Darby's career isn't going to be effected by it, only thing that's gonna happen is that said circle.Yeah, kind of proved yourself wrong with those last two statements bud. Fwiw i mainly agree with you but the possibility he’s pushed higher up on the card and the allegations come back more pronounced to the forefront has always been there. I remember ages ago blade and others brought all this up. It IS a tricky situation cuz it is a lot of he said, she said. Like I said then and now, I think it comes down to one’s personal thoughts and beliefs on it..but yeah.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2023 16:54:57 GMT -5
Or there was simply nothing there to take any action, and there's been nothing since I know every time this topic about Darby comes out, it's a circle, unless anything more comes out, as has been said above, it's a volatile he said, she said, and neither can really be proved right or wrong. Hence, why Darby is just going to keep on keeping on, and this stuff is always just gonna kinda hover around in the background for those who care about it, but if there isn't enough to properly figure out who is telling the truth, Darby's career isn't going to be effected by it, only thing that's gonna happen is that said circle.Yeah, kind of proved yourself wrong with those last two statements bud. Fwiw i mainly agree with you but the possibility he’s pushed higher up on the card and the allegations come back more pronounced to the forefront has always been there. I remember ages ago blade and others brought all this up. It IS a tricky situation cuz it is a lot of he said, she said. Like I said then and now, I think it comes down to one’s personal thoughts and beliefs on it..but yeah. I meant in the grand scheme I don't see Darby's career getting effected, crowds love him, and he's been in this exact card position before with the story already out there It's why I said it's a circle every time of getting upset he's won a bigger thing, talking about the allegations, and it basically being your own preference if you choose to condemn Darby or not It's probably never going to go away, but it also doesn't seem it's ever going to go beyond what it already is, unless something more comes out about it, or other allegations ever see the light, or Darby does something bad in the current day, who knows, that may happen, and then I think this situation evolves, until then, I think it just is what it is.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jan 5, 2023 16:58:54 GMT -5
Basically it was AEW saying they looked at the evidence and he's clear. Without elaborating what the evidence was. A classic wrestling protecting potential scumbag move Or there was simply nothing there to take any action, and there's been nothing since I know every time this topic about Darby comes out, it's a circle, unless anything more comes out, as has been said above, it's a volatile he said, she said, and neither can really be proved right or wrong. Hence, why Darby is just going to keep on keeping on, and this stuff is always just gonna kinda hover around in the background for those who care about it, but if there isn't enough to properly figure out who is telling the truth, Darby's career isn't going to be effected by it, only thing that's gonna happen is that said circle. Listen I dont see people giving the same BOD that they give Darby, to other performers in other companies. It just so happens that Darby has done a good job of reforming or hides his POS behavior and he happens to be a good wrestler.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 5, 2023 17:06:30 GMT -5
If I recall, and again could be wrong, when the allegations came out Darby was taken off tv and was investigated. Don't remember the details but I remember them saying that there was nothing substantial to punish him. Only reason I remember I'd They investigated Jimmy Havoc at the same time and he was pretty forthcoming. I think they found out Jimmy Havoc wasn't making them money.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2023 17:10:38 GMT -5
If I recall, and again could be wrong, when the allegations came out Darby was taken off tv and was investigated. Don't remember the details but I remember them saying that there was nothing substantial to punish him. Only reason I remember I'd They investigated Jimmy Havoc at the same time and he was pretty forthcoming. I think they found out Jimmy Havoc wasn't making them money. Jimmy Havoc also did some really, really f***ed up shit, worse than Darby is even accused of, that got confirmed, and backed up to be true, so they fired him.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2023 17:15:36 GMT -5
Or there was simply nothing there to take any action, and there's been nothing since I know every time this topic about Darby comes out, it's a circle, unless anything more comes out, as has been said above, it's a volatile he said, she said, and neither can really be proved right or wrong. Hence, why Darby is just going to keep on keeping on, and this stuff is always just gonna kinda hover around in the background for those who care about it, but if there isn't enough to properly figure out who is telling the truth, Darby's career isn't going to be effected by it, only thing that's gonna happen is that said circle. Listen I dont see people giving the same BOD that they give Darby, to other performers in other companies. It just so happens that Darby has done a good job of reforming or hides his POS behavior and he happens to be a good wrestler. Being a good wrestler won't save you if the allegations are damning enough, it's why Marty, David Starr, and the like aren't welcomed back anywhere. Darby has definitely done a good job not fanning any flames and staying out of any trouble though, it's why I said he essentially needed to, it wouldn't help anything for him if he was self destructive or he gave people any reason to conflate the allegation. Dude seems very content spending his free time crashing himself into a flaming school bus in his spare time
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Post by lucas_lee on Jan 5, 2023 17:18:20 GMT -5
Listen I dont see people giving the same BOD that they give Darby, to other performers in other companies. It just so happens that Darby has done a good job of reforming or hides his POS behavior and he happens to be a good wrestler. Being a good wrestler won't save you if the allegations are damning enough, it's why Marty, David Starr, and the like aren't welcomed back anywhere. Darby has definitely done a good job not fanning any flames and staying out of any trouble though, it's why I said he essentially needed to, it wouldn't help anything for him if he was self destructive or he gave people any reason to conflate the allegation. Dude seems very content spending his free time crashing himself into a flaming school bus in his spare time Those names you listed weren't on TV and drawing money for the second biggest company in the world. Both of those guys worked in upper tier indies so they can be disposed of for what they did. Darby was shown to make money unlike a Jimmy Havoc and was probably given a longer leash.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2023 17:27:45 GMT -5
Being a good wrestler won't save you if the allegations are damning enough, it's why Marty, David Starr, and the like aren't welcomed back anywhere. Darby has definitely done a good job not fanning any flames and staying out of any trouble though, it's why I said he essentially needed to, it wouldn't help anything for him if he was self destructive or he gave people any reason to conflate the allegation. Dude seems very content spending his free time crashing himself into a flaming school bus in his spare time Those names you listed weren't on TV and drawing money for the second biggest company in the world. Both of those guys worked in upper tier indies so they can be disposed of for what they did. Darby was shown to make money unlike a Jimmy Havoc and was probably given a longer leash. It's also not to downplay the seriousness of the allegations but what all those men did was worse than what Darby is accused of potentially doing Like really f***ed up shit, and what probably sunk Marty was trying to defend it on his end, but overall, this is also why Darby's not sunk like the others, money likely plays a role, but what happened can't really be proven one way or the other, and while some people probably would just fire him and be done with it, firing a man over something you can't exactly prove happened sounds like a legal mess tbh
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Jan 5, 2023 19:31:06 GMT -5
Darby winning surprised me. I’m disappointed because I was really liking Joes king of television bit but I usually enjoy Darby on TV so I’m not annoyed by him winning
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