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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 29, 2023 19:15:31 GMT -5
I think there'd be no harm done in Roman suffering more "defeats" in the leadup to Mania, given that he's looked so dominant for so long and the story is that the Bloodline and his grip over everything is just going to shit. It wouldn't make him look weak at all, just in a position of being a villain who's finally getting what's coming to him.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 29, 2023 19:25:00 GMT -5
I think there'd be no harm done in Roman suffering more "defeats" in the leadup to Mania, given that he's looked so dominant for so long and the story is that the Bloodline and his grip over everything is just going to shit. It wouldn't make him look weak at all, just in a position of being a villain who's finally getting what's coming to him. Everyone wants the villains to get their comeuppance. Except when they don’t want them to.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Jan 29, 2023 19:25:58 GMT -5
I disagree, Roman should only wrestle once Mania weekend and he should definitively lose. Him wrestling and losing twice that weekend waters down both moments. Slaying the unbeatable monster doesn’t look as impressive when someone else already did it 24 hours earlier. Right now, I’m leaning towards Sami should beat Roman on night one and then Cody on night two before eventually losing the belt the Cody at SummerSlam but I’m sure my opinion will change on that. Imo the “rub” is only needed for the person who you’re trying to make the next “guy.” That’s Cody. With Sami you’re trying to resolve the storyline. Also you gotta break up the titles somehow IMO This year's WrestleMania result will have close to zero to do with whether Cody becomes 'the guy' or not. A lot can happen in two months, but this just doesn't feel like Cody's storyline
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 29, 2023 19:27:58 GMT -5
I think there'd be no harm done in Roman suffering more "defeats" in the leadup to Mania, given that he's looked so dominant for so long and the story is that the Bloodline and his grip over everything is just going to shit. It wouldn't make him look weak at all, just in a position of being a villain who's finally getting what's coming to him. Everyone wants the villains to get their comeuppance. Except when they don’t want them to. Not suggesting he ends every Smackdown from now until Mania laid out, but make it clear that his iron fist dominance over WWE is falling apart with the Bloodline seemingly starting to see cracks and a returning conquering hero in Cody gunning for him. They've built him to be the big end boss of WWE for three years or so now, time to peel those layers away to see what's "beneath" the veneer of the Tribal Chief with his domination under scrutiny by forces internal and external.
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Post by sfvega on Jan 29, 2023 19:32:17 GMT -5
I think there'd be no harm done in Roman suffering more "defeats" in the leadup to Mania, given that he's looked so dominant for so long and the story is that the Bloodline and his grip over everything is just going to shit. It wouldn't make him look weak at all, just in a position of being a villain who's finally getting what's coming to him. You've waited this long to have him lose and have his comeuppance, and you give it away to someone who he hasn't been feuding with 24 hours before he meets Sami? He can put Cody over any time, that rub should go to Sami first no question. It doesn't make Roman look weak, but it takes away from the moment that was rightfully earned by them actually writing a great storyline for once.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 29, 2023 19:39:59 GMT -5
Everyone wants the villains to get their comeuppance. Except when they don’t want them to. Not suggesting he ends every Smackdown from now until Mania laid out, but make it clear that his iron fist dominance over WWE is falling apart with the Bloodline seemingly starting to see cracks and a returning conquering hero in Cody gunning for him. They've built him to be the big end boss of WWE for three years or so now, time to peel those layers away to see what's "beneath" the veneer of the Tribal Chief with his domination under scrutiny by forces internal and external. Oh he needs to lose around Mania at least 2-3 times to cause the full mental breakdown. I just mean people overreact when guys take losses sometimes. Roman is a big boy…he can take it.
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Post by avenger on Jan 29, 2023 19:42:45 GMT -5
You don't have that ending to a Royal Rumble PPV, as the start of the Road to Wrestlemania, and not have the climax to that storyline as the main event of the whole thing.
You don't have that ending to a Royal Rumble PPV, where commentary have started pushing that Roman has not been pinned for three years, and have him beaten for a title (the WWE title at that!) before Wrestlemania.
Cody's going to have to pull a John Cena from 2008 - come out to the ring, say that his months out have taught him that anything can happen, and he doesn't want to wait for Wrestlemania. He wants Roman at Elimination Chamber. You can have Roman win by whataver shenanigans needed to push the story - even have him win by countout as he confronts a still conflicted Jey Uso in the aisle.
Cody's time will come. It's just not now.
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Post by sfvega on Jan 29, 2023 19:51:36 GMT -5
Not suggesting he ends every Smackdown from now until Mania laid out, but make it clear that his iron fist dominance over WWE is falling apart with the Bloodline seemingly starting to see cracks and a returning conquering hero in Cody gunning for him. They've built him to be the big end boss of WWE for three years or so now, time to peel those layers away to see what's "beneath" the veneer of the Tribal Chief with his domination under scrutiny by forces internal and external. Oh he needs to lose around Mania at least 2-3 times to cause the full mental breakdown. I just mean people overreact when guys take losses sometimes. Roman is a big boy…he can take it. Just because it can happen, does not mean it would be prudent for the payoff for such long-term booking.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2023 20:02:26 GMT -5
I think Sami time will come but it isn't now
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Post by sfvega on Jan 29, 2023 20:17:51 GMT -5
I think Sami time will come but it isn't now
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Jan 29, 2023 20:22:04 GMT -5
If I learned one thing after the Bloodline story, it's that some of you will never be happy with anything WWE does. This was magnificent storytelling over a year plus, an arc that was visible but still loaded with anticipation. The heat Roman is getting is legit hatred heat, not "why is this dude in the main event again?" heat. The pop when Sami hit him......the reactions by Heyman, Jey, Roman. Literally perfect professional wrestling storytelling.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2023 20:22:27 GMT -5
I think Sami time will come but it isn't now
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Post by schma on Jan 29, 2023 20:22:35 GMT -5
This segment literally had the crowd chanting "F*** you Roman". We've had some foul mouthed chants before but that's gotta be a first.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 29, 2023 20:24:12 GMT -5
This segment literally had the crowd chanting "F*** you Roman". We've had some foul mouthed chants before but that's gotta be a first. and those "f*** you Roman" chants being actual chants of heel heat rather than go away heat, too.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jan 29, 2023 20:26:29 GMT -5
One of the biggest pops in years came from a single chair shot.
That’s effective storytelling.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 29, 2023 20:28:59 GMT -5
You don't have that ending to a Royal Rumble PPV, as the start of the Road to Wrestlemania, and not have the climax to that storyline as the main event of the whole thing. You don't have that ending to a Royal Rumble PPV, where commentary have started pushing that Roman has not been pinned for three years, and have him beaten for a title (the WWE title at that!) before Wrestlemania. Cody's going to have to pull a John Cena from 2008 - come out to the ring, say that his months out have taught him that anything can happen, and he doesn't want to wait for Wrestlemania. He wants Roman at Elimination Chamber. You can have Roman win by whataver shenanigans needed to push the story - even have him win by countout as he confronts a still conflicted Jey Uso in the aisle. Cody's time will come. It's just not now. Your scenario Lex Luger’s Cody. Respectfully, I really, really hope it doesn’t happen.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 29, 2023 20:33:05 GMT -5
If I learned one thing after the Bloodline story, it's that some of you will never be happy with anything WWE does. This was magnificent storytelling over a year plus, an arc that was visible but still loaded with anticipation. The heat Roman is getting is legit hatred heat, not "why is this dude in the main event again?" heat. The pop when Sami hit him......the reactions by Heyman, Jey, Roman. Literally perfect professional wrestling storytelling. This story has made me wonder if everyone just nitpicks too much on a week to week basis. There’s clearly a story they’re building to and I feel like we’re talking over the middle of a movie. I get why it’s done and I’m clearly playing a role myself, but some of this today has given me pause.
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Jan 29, 2023 21:02:07 GMT -5
If I learned one thing after the Bloodline story, it's that some of you will never be happy with anything WWE does. This was magnificent storytelling over a year plus, an arc that was visible but still loaded with anticipation. The heat Roman is getting is legit hatred heat, not "why is this dude in the main event again?" heat. The pop when Sami hit him......the reactions by Heyman, Jey, Roman. Literally perfect professional wrestling storytelling. Absolutely. I've been watching WWE since the late 80s and it really doesn't get much better than this. By all means, part of being a passionate fan is discussing, debating, predicting... but at the same time, don't miss the opportunity to just step back and enjoy it. This storyline could now go in several directions and all of them are good.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 29, 2023 21:04:14 GMT -5
If I learned one thing after the Bloodline story, it's that some of you will never be happy with anything WWE does. This was magnificent storytelling over a year plus, an arc that was visible but still loaded with anticipation. The heat Roman is getting is legit hatred heat, not "why is this dude in the main event again?" heat. The pop when Sami hit him......the reactions by Heyman, Jey, Roman. Literally perfect professional wrestling storytelling. Absolutely. I've been watching WWE since the late 80s and it really doesn't get much better than this. By all means, part of being a passionate fan is discussing, debating, predicting... but at the same time, don't miss the opportunity to just step back and enjoy it. This storyline could now go in several directions and all of them are good. Realistically, the only true "disappointing" direction is the BLOODLINE WINS LOL direction, but I sincerely don't think they're gonna go for that route anymore.
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Post by Fade on Jan 29, 2023 21:09:48 GMT -5
If I learned one thing after the Bloodline story, it's that some of you will never be happy with anything WWE does. This was magnificent storytelling over a year plus, an arc that was visible but still loaded with anticipation. The heat Roman is getting is legit hatred heat, not "why is this dude in the main event again?" heat. The pop when Sami hit him......the reactions by Heyman, Jey, Roman. Literally perfect professional wrestling storytelling. Lol..it’s wrestling fans in general, honestly, I think. Think about how incredible and diverse the wrestling world is rn. And people. Still. Complain lol. I’m ALL for critique! Seriously. But I’ve noticed this with AEW and WWE. The company’s can nail almost a near-perfect Grand Slam and ppl will, almost irrationally, hate. I get it. It makes the lights turn increasingly bright for some to argue and critique certain things online but WOOOooof..lol. This is definitely an egregious example. I don’t blame wrasslers and those in the industry shying away from the majority of online discourse.
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