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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 25, 2023 3:34:09 GMT -5
And in the case of Dakota and Iyo, it shows that Triple H really doesn't care about them. Which is baffling since both Dakota and Iyo were significantly more popular and well liked than some of the women Triple H WANTED to get over in NXT (Tegan, Raquel, etc). So it wouldn't shock me if he has an issue with that. I'm really not sure how anyone could look at Io's treatment and booking in NXT, with her 300 day title reign and her megastar presentation through that whole urn, and say she wasn't someone Triple H wanted to get over, let alone was being resented for being more over than Raquel. The way Iyo was used in NXT kind of struck me as being someone Triple H was definitely high on but didn't really think could carry the brand longterm. A solid fallback plan and featured player who could hold the fort down during a state of the roster needing rebuilding but not someone he wanted to have as the biggest player in the division. Which I think is pretty fair for her, she's great but she is someone you can probably only really get so much mileage out of as the centerpiece of things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 7:34:49 GMT -5
Gonna disagree on that one.
If HHH never saw her as one who could carry the brand he would have never given her a 300 day title reign and also never would have put her in any position to be the centrepiece like she was in NXT and this was during a persiod when the NXT womens division was celebrated as not only the best thing in WWE but was completely eclipsing pretty much everything else in NA wrestling at the time as far as womens wrestling goes ans it was not even close.
Hell he remained on the IYO bandwagon far longer than he did Rhea...and that was someone he was constantly putting over during the latter half of 2019 as the next big female star the one that cannot be missed....winning war games , survivor series , getting wins on SD over the likes of Sasha and Charlotte...while IYO white hot in her new heel turn was getting nowhere near getting that treatment.
The fact she was only 2nd to Finn at the time as the most over and her segments always upticked against AEW IMO really cements how strong a centrepiece she can be on the mainroster.
Which makes the entire Dmg Cntrl booking all the more baffling....but we will see what happens when they inevitably break up and all of them go back off to being singles competitors.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 25, 2023 8:53:43 GMT -5
At this stage, Damage Control are either a mediocre act who squeeze onto the WM card to lose to somebody. Or they're a mediocre act who aren't on the card at all.
I'm not saying that's the fault of the performers, but not everyone needs or deserves a WrestleMania match.
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Post by mistery on Feb 25, 2023 9:13:20 GMT -5
At this stage, Damage Control are either a mediocre act who squeeze onto the WM card to lose to somebody. Or they're a mediocre act who aren't on the card at all. I'm not saying that's the fault of the performers, but not everyone needs or deserves a WrestleMania match. When you are a featured part of the show for the better part of 7-8 months, barring an injury, you should probably get a Wrestlemania match. Especially over someone like Ronda who has no upside at all right now and has completely cooled off, to the point of where she has pretty much no mainstream appeal anymore. And Lita shouldn't be on the card either, because again, she's just being brought back for a nostalgia pop. She's not coming back to put over Dakota and Iyo. She's coming back to take from them and then probably put over Ronda who is a complete failure and should be gone from the company, but WWE has this obsession with the idea that the mainstream audience still finds her relevant (they don't). This is one of the big reasons why Sasha and Naomi walked out. They were constantly screwed over by WWE management, and it seems like Iyo and Dakota are being treated no differently in that regard. Also Bayley posted this on Instagram and it pretty much shows why Iyo and Dakota should be treated better by WWE. They didn't have to come back. Iyo's contract was pretty much up (and she was getting ready to move back to Japan), and Dakota wasn't even considering going back to the company until Triple H contacted her. They only came back because Triple H really wanted them back. And how does he repay them? Making them look like fools week in, week out. And is now likely shoving them off the Wrestlemania card just to get a legend on. Imagine being told on Monday: "Oh hey, we are having you drop the tag titles to Becky and Lita, and as a result you won't have a match at Wrestlemania, because "this could draw more". I would understandably be upset at that, especially since everyone knows Lita isn't sticking around past Mania to put Dakota and Iyo over. She's just there to take a spot from them.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 25, 2023 15:01:28 GMT -5
I really find it hard to hold it against them if Damage CTRL gets left off the card because Damage CTRL just plain sucks. They're good performers and all (though I have my doubts on Bayley, I think she's maybe been entertaining for about a combined two months the entire time she's been on the main roster) but as a unit they've consistently been an uninteresting drag on the product since the Raw after they formed, getting whole episodes of Raw routinely built around them only for most of said episodes to be terribly dull. A lot of it's the group concept itself being bad and giving them nothing to work with, granted, but knowing why they're not entertaining to watch doesn't make them entertaining to watch.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 25, 2023 15:19:59 GMT -5
Frankly there’s other women who are more over with the fans who might get left off Mania that big me more.
It’s not Damage CTRL’s fault necessarily, but it really feels like it’s time to let them go their separate ways.
At the very least Iyo because she really has been feeling out of place lately.
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2023 15:35:25 GMT -5
If this is the case, I could see it being because of a botched interference by Bailey, which then leads to a triple threat break up match at 'Mania.
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Post by mistery on Feb 25, 2023 15:36:18 GMT -5
Ronda is on twitter TRYING to bury Damage CTRL but it's going about as well as you can imagine, with her misspelling their names, and getting dunked on hard by Bayley. This is especially savage by Bayley, which leads me to believe that Ronda isn't super well liked by the locker room. If this is the case, I could see it being because of a botched interference by Bailey, which then leads to a triple threat break up match at 'Mania. Nah, if they lose the titles, they'll be off the card entirely. Bayley might make it on for a program with Trish or something, but Dakota and Iyo? Won't make it on, unless they are out there to try and interfere in Bayley's match which would be incredibly lame.
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2023 15:42:35 GMT -5
Ronda is on twitter TRYING to bury Damage CTRL but it's going about as well as you can imagine, with her misspelling their names, and getting dunked on hard by Bayley. This is especially savage by Bayley, which leads me to believe that Ronda isn't super well liked by the locker room. If this is the case, I could see it being because of a botched interference by Bailey, which then leads to a triple threat break up match at 'Mania. Nah, if they lose the titles, they'll be off the card entirely. Bayley might make it on for a program with Trish or something, but Dakota and Iyo? Won't make it on, unless they are out there to try and interfere in Bayley's match which would be incredibly lame. I have a feeling she is trying to do some innuendo with the CNT there, and it also went over Bailey's head.
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Post by mistery on Feb 25, 2023 16:07:46 GMT -5
Ronda is on twitter TRYING to bury Damage CTRL but it's going about as well as you can imagine, with her misspelling their names, and getting dunked on hard by Bayley. This is especially savage by Bayley, which leads me to believe that Ronda isn't super well liked by the locker room. Nah, if they lose the titles, they'll be off the card entirely. Bayley might make it on for a program with Trish or something, but Dakota and Iyo? Won't make it on, unless they are out there to try and interfere in Bayley's match which would be incredibly lame. I have a feeling she is trying to do some innuendo with the CNT there, and it also went over Bailey's head. I don't think so. Ronda is notoriously bad at trash talk. She also isn't clever at all.
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2023 16:14:02 GMT -5
I have a feeling she is trying to do some innuendo with the CNT there, and it also went over Bailey's head. I don't think so. Ronda is notoriously bad at trash talk. She also isn't clever at all. Yeah, but she is pretty low brow, and using that word would fit her over all....presentation.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 25, 2023 18:50:47 GMT -5
Ronda is on twitter TRYING to bury Damage CTRL but it's going about as well as you can imagine, with her misspelling their names, and getting dunked on hard by Bayley. This is especially savage by Bayley, which leads me to believe that Ronda isn't super well liked by the locker room.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 19:05:25 GMT -5
Ronnie keeps catching them stray L's from everyone everytime she says something on twitter.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 25, 2023 19:08:34 GMT -5
Can we stop imagining that Ronda is not well-liked backstage?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 25, 2023 19:15:43 GMT -5
Can we stop imagining that Ronda is not well-liked backstage? Right. Isn't Nattie genuinely one of her best friends on the roster? I think people may be letting imaginations run wild.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 25, 2023 19:19:50 GMT -5
Can we stop imagining that Ronda is not well-liked backstage? Right. Isn't Nattie genuinely one of her best friends on the roster? I think people may be letting imaginations run wild. Yeah, there’s an imaginary world where the whole locker room hates Ronda and Charlotte, and they’re all asking Triple H why Iyo and Asuka aren’t main eventing Wrestlemania.
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Post by mistery on Feb 25, 2023 19:27:43 GMT -5
Ah yes, Ronda is definitely well liked in the locker room for calling out Natalya like that and also publicly burying Dakota and Iyo (two women who are actually well liked). Let's not forget that Ronda is openly a conspiracy theorist and a bigot, traits that will certainly endear her to the locker room.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 25, 2023 19:45:12 GMT -5
Ah yes, Ronda is definitely well liked in the locker room for calling out Natalya like that and also publicly burying Dakota and Iyo (two women who are actually well liked). Let's not forget that Ronda is openly a conspiracy theorist and a bigot, traits that will certainly endear her to the locker room. They’re working, sir. Her and Nattie are close irl, as are Shayna and Dakota with Ronda.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 25, 2023 19:49:44 GMT -5
Ah yes, Ronda is definitely well liked in the locker room for calling out Natalya like that and also publicly burying Dakota and Iyo (two women who are actually well liked). Let's not forget that Ronda is openly a conspiracy theorist and a bigot, traits that will certainly endear her to the locker room. They’re working, sir. Her and Nattie are close irl, as are Shayna and Dakota with Ronda. Yeah. Natalya trained Ronda. I think it’s why Nattie dunks on her so hard, tbh. And Shayna and Dakota are together IRL, right? This just all feels like people going a little harder to create buzz, not some mutiny against Ronda.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 25, 2023 20:58:37 GMT -5
So, Dakota is currently streaming, so she isn’t working this weekend’s Live Events. Since getting injured at the Royal Rumble, Dakota has not worked any Live Events or done anything too physical. So, I wonder how they are going to work the match.
Will they have Bayley fill in for Dakota and “Freebird” it; or coupled with Kermit reporting that Lita is only signed for 1 match, are we going to get some shenanigans and a “bait-and-switch”.
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