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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 19:42:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 19:48:45 GMT -5
Also I am not sure I have heard anyone outside of MJF and Cody ever have a 20 minute talk segment in AEW. Seems a bit like ol' Joey was saying things to placate the hosts
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 27, 2023 19:49:27 GMT -5
Yeah when I watch Dynamite what I really feel is "Wow everyone here looks really complacent, sure aren't doing much"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 19:57:07 GMT -5
I think Joey has the right idea but the wrong solution.
There is the issue of much of the talent being stuck in Dark purgatory, unable to ascend back to regular TV once they take residence on YouTube. But I think that cutting pay isn't suddenly going to make the wrestlers hungrier or more competitive; hell, pay cuts result in laziness most of the time. Rather, the issue lies in the booking process.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 27, 2023 20:06:14 GMT -5
Honestly? This is Joey being Joey. I have a lot of respect for how he really became an indy darling through sheer will and his own creativity, but he's very much an emotional guy that doesn't have a filter or hold back.
Also very much a guy who IMO is happier on the indies where he's his own boss.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 27, 2023 20:08:14 GMT -5
I'm sure Janela was complaining about his pay when he was wrestling for them for two years...
AEW matches are also not too long, on occasion we get a 20 minute or so match, but it's not every card. The Ladder Match this week SHOULD get that amount of time given what it is
I also think speaking for other people if they take or don't take Indie Bookings due to their pay is really stupid, but Janela's had some very dumb takes in the past, this is another, if he's more happy working Indies, that's fine, but don't come down on others, likely because they won't take your bookings at a given time...
I don't think shortening match times is gonna get more people used on DARK on match cards more often, they need storylines and a reason to be there and that can be cycled in and out. Ring of Honor's definitely helping though.
As for people being "complacent" period... that's just dumb. Everyone in AEW goes out there and busts their asses for any crowd during any match, and if he says that he isn't seeing that due to them getting "paid too much" that's just ridiculous imo
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 27, 2023 20:08:23 GMT -5
I'm sure there's a joke about 20 minutes for Joey Janela not being as long as 20 minutes for everyone else, but I won't make it.
Wrestlers are still underpaid across the board. As long as AEW isn't hemorrhaging money, then let the wrestlers be paid as much as possible.
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 27, 2023 20:15:00 GMT -5
This sounds like that same argument about lower carders in WWE taking a paycheck for sitting in catering and barely working. Don't remember who said it before, but I rather have everyone get paid.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 27, 2023 20:53:51 GMT -5
Honestly? This is Joey being Joey. I have a lot of respect for how he really became an indy darling through sheer will and his own creativity, but he's very much an emotional guy that doesn't have a filter or hold back. Also very much a guy who IMO is happier on the indies where he's his own boss. Yeah, this is absolutely coming from a spot of Joey's work ethic. The man puts in the hours, but I don't think everyone's ideal is to hustle the way he does and grind on the indies for their whole careers.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 27, 2023 21:12:41 GMT -5
Honestly? This is Joey being Joey. I have a lot of respect for how he really became an indy darling through sheer will and his own creativity, but he's very much an emotional guy that doesn't have a filter or hold back. Also very much a guy who IMO is happier on the indies where he's his own boss. Yeah, this is absolutely coming from a spot of Joey's work ethic. The man puts in the hours, but I don't think everyone's ideal is to hustle the way he does and grind on the indies for their whole careers. Yeah I think it came out back when that the reason Joey got stuck on Dark was because he was injuring talent (Eddie during a push being a final straw) and because he's a bit of an issue on social media. But Joey's always been a guy who when promoters tell him to reel it in he complains.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 27, 2023 21:30:53 GMT -5
Six figures is a lot of money, but it's not THAT much money. If I was being featured even semi-regularly as a signed talent to a major televised company, I'd be expecting at least $100k a year too.
That and some indie dates might let you buy a house and live a middle class lifestyle in some parts of the country.
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Post by Convoy on Feb 27, 2023 22:15:56 GMT -5
Damn he called everyone Juice Robinson.
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Post by Red Mage Riot on Feb 27, 2023 22:21:22 GMT -5
It takes a bold man to get fed, leave the table, then start biting hands once you're gone.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 27, 2023 22:23:33 GMT -5
...who the hell is regressing?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 27, 2023 22:33:40 GMT -5
...who the hell is regressing? I can't think of one AEW talent who has come into AEW and regressed in ring if that's what he meant Everyone has been allowed to be themselves with little to no restrictions, even Nick Gage...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 27, 2023 22:38:08 GMT -5
...who the hell is regressing? I can't think of one AEW talent who has come into AEW and regressed in ring if that's what he meant Everyone has been allowed to be themselves with little to no restrictions, even Nick Gage... Maybe Miro? if the talk of him turning down storylines is true I guess? that would fit more in the coasting then regressing but still...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 27, 2023 22:39:46 GMT -5
I can't think of one AEW talent who has come into AEW and regressed in ring if that's what he meant Everyone has been allowed to be themselves with little to no restrictions, even Nick Gage... Maybe Miro? if the talk of him turning down storylines is true I guess? that would fit more in the coasting then regressing but still... Even in ring I would say it's not true, Miro's put in great matches, people have enjoyed his stuff in AEW as a whole and his Redeemer gimmick. There's just been a seeming creative struggle with him and where he values himself/what he should be doing instead of what they're pitching
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Feb 27, 2023 22:56:26 GMT -5
...who the hell is regressing? Joey judging by his downward trajectory while in AEW.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 27, 2023 23:06:32 GMT -5
He's implying that there's no one in AEW making less than $100,000 a year...
I genuinely want to see a payroll now.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 27, 2023 23:11:56 GMT -5
...who the hell is regressing? Joey judging by his downward trajectory while in AEW. He suplexed Hangman into the bottom buckle and busted him bad and that was his last TV match in the company I believe
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