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Post by Some Guy on Jul 2, 2023 13:21:56 GMT -5
They've also got a PPV in 19 days and nothing really set up. I suppose Kingdom/Lucha Bros is but that's it. Eddie is in Japan so they can't do that rematch with Claudio, Athena has no active opponent she's feuding with, maybe you can run back Joe/Mark in a cage but they haven't interacted in months, the Embassy have clobbered everyone with no issue...what's the plan here
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Post by Facetious on Jul 2, 2023 13:36:21 GMT -5
They've also got a PPV in 19 days and nothing really set up. I suppose Kingdom/Lucha Bros is but that's it. Eddie is in Japan so they can't do that rematch with Claudio, Athena has no active opponent she's feuding with, maybe you can run back Joe/Mark in a cage but they haven't interacted in months, the Embassy have clobbered everyone with no issue...what's the plan here Honestly, the whole thing has been lame. Sure, you get some good matches, but other than Athena, nothing is worthwhile. It's just become AEW Dark.
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Post by markymark on Jul 2, 2023 17:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 2, 2023 18:41:22 GMT -5
That's pretty good for like no card announced yet
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Post by stoptheclocks on Jul 3, 2023 2:13:00 GMT -5
I'd say that's absolutely incredible considering the state of the TV show. Shows there is some life in the ROH brand.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Jul 3, 2023 9:29:15 GMT -5
I'm really conflicted about HonorClub. I had some Apple credit when the new show first dropped, so I subscribed. I really enjoy the show and it has really good matches, but there's such a high volume of content and most of it feels inconsequential. It really does feel like Dark with the occasional random Shibata or Vikingo match sprinkled in. Which isn't a bad thing, but when there's now 5 hours of AEW television alone, plus WWE content to watch occasionally, there's just really no time to watch a 2 hour ROH branded Dark consistently. So I wasn't going to get the $10 a month value out of it, and canceled my subscription.
If they included the PPVs I would subscribe again in a heartbeat.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jul 8, 2023 18:25:52 GMT -5
Was just wondering if there was a card for Death Before Dishonor or not. Considering I just shelled out $100 on AEW shows the last two months and I'm going to Blood and Guts two days before, I'm really on the fence about this show. Like, I'm sure what ever they end up doing will be good, because of course it will, but the lack of card 13 days before the event is very concerning.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 8, 2023 18:46:59 GMT -5
Was just wondering if there was a card for Death Before Dishonor or not. Considering I just shelled out $100 on AEW shows the last two months and I'm going to Blood and Guts two days before, I'm really on the fence about this show. Like, I'm sure what ever they end up doing will be good, because of course it will, but the lack of card 13 days before the event is very concerning. Not official yet but it looks like Claudio vs Mark Briscoe for the ROH World Title is gonna main this show
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Post by markymark on Jul 11, 2023 14:45:31 GMT -5
Shawn Dean is cool but I can see some fans calling him a shill for defending ROH.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 11, 2023 15:02:39 GMT -5
Two things can be true. ROH has been developing stories but it's also basically Dark and Elevation. Doesn't have to be a bad thing though
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 11, 2023 15:03:48 GMT -5
I'm really conflicted about HonorClub. I had some Apple credit when the new show first dropped, so I subscribed. I really enjoy the show and it has really good matches, but there's such a high volume of content and most of it feels inconsequential. It really does feel like Dark with the occasional random Shibata or Vikingo match sprinkled in. Which isn't a bad thing, but when there's now 5 hours of AEW television alone, plus WWE content to watch occasionally, there's just really no time to watch a 2 hour ROH branded Dark consistently. So I wasn't going to get the $10 a month value out of it, and canceled my subscription. If they included the PPVs I would subscribe again in a heartbeat. I've said form the start the price is crazy without ppvs. You can two days of the G1 free. Shingon Vs Eddie, ZSJ Vs Tanahashi. You can get a whole month of njpw world for less than honour club. Most other streaming options are cheaper too. It's a hard sell even to those it appeals to. At least offer a discount to those with aew+ as a package deal.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 11, 2023 15:05:18 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with defending a product you're on and passionate about
A show being an Elevation with more stories type of show works, especially if ROH has no path to TV or a streaming service at the moment
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Post by dpg on Jul 12, 2023 5:02:27 GMT -5
I'm really conflicted about HonorClub. I had some Apple credit when the new show first dropped, so I subscribed. I really enjoy the show and it has really good matches, but there's such a high volume of content and most of it feels inconsequential. It really does feel like Dark with the occasional random Shibata or Vikingo match sprinkled in. Which isn't a bad thing, but when there's now 5 hours of AEW television alone, plus WWE content to watch occasionally, there's just really no time to watch a 2 hour ROH branded Dark consistently. So I wasn't going to get the $10 a month value out of it, and canceled my subscription. If they included the PPVs I would subscribe again in a heartbeat. I've said form the start the price is crazy without ppvs. You can two days of the G1 free. Shingon Vs Eddie, ZSJ Vs Tanahashi. You can get a whole month of njpw world for less than honour club. Most other streaming options are cheaper too. It's a hard sell even to those it appeals to. At least offer a discount to those with aew+ as a package deal. Impact plus is $8, that includes monthly 3hr events, with the big PPVs on delay and the entire archive of weekly shows and PPVs.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 12, 2023 11:22:06 GMT -5
Even without a card taking shape, I still might nab a ticket for this, haven't been to Trenton in a good, long while and figure no matter what I'll be getting some good matches out of this.
Plus I have Collision tickets in Newark for the next night, makes for a fun doubleheader if I can get it to work.
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 13, 2023 19:21:50 GMT -5
So with Mark Briscoe now officially out, they don't have a single match announced for a PPV that takes place in 8 days. We'll probably end up with Joe vs Dalton Castle with this rushed TV title tourney and Willow/Athena at least, but man between injuries and generally just not caring about ROH this PPV has a complete disaster of a lack of build.
They can probably do Garcia/Shibata also but Shibata hasn't been on ROH in 6 weeks and they haven't interacted since Forbidden Door. Lucha Bros/Kingdom could be fine I guess but again they haven't interacted a single time since that ladder match. Embassy has already plowed through the entirety of makeshift ROH trios teams so I don't see any possibility there.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jul 13, 2023 19:26:00 GMT -5
Did Tony forget to book the ppv? Not sure if he's still over everything or not but he definitely needs some help here..If he has help, he needs new help. Eight days and nothing really booked isn't good.
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Post by Facetious on Jul 13, 2023 19:49:25 GMT -5
I wish TK would hand the show over to someone else and just focus on AEW. The same amount of care isn't here and the fans are taking notice of it.
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Post by markymark on Jul 13, 2023 19:59:22 GMT -5
Did Tony forget to book the ppv? Not sure if he's still over everything or not but he definitely needs some help here..If he has help, he needs new help. Eight days and nothing really booked isn't good.
He is putting more of his attention mainly on Dynamite and Collision in order to secure a tv renewal with WBD, I agree that needs help maybe he should consider having ROH its own creative team kinda like how Collision has.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 13, 2023 20:12:56 GMT -5
I agree he should delegate this to someone else. I don't know who, but it is showing that ROH is quickly becoming DARK/Elevation with it having no TV Deal potential
ROH would be way better off showcasing some of the show and matches on Youtube if Warner has no interest in putting it on their services. Get more eyes on it and maybe experiment more with it as a whole. It's still a fine show but there's more potential to be had here that I think has bottomed out when Warner essentially didn't care about them being in the AEW package deal
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Post by markymark on Jul 13, 2023 20:21:47 GMT -5
I agree he should delegate this to someone else. I don't know who, but it is showing that ROH is quickly becoming DARK/Elevation with it having no TV Deal potential ROH would be way better off showcasing some of the show and matches on Youtube if Warner has no interest in putting it on their services. Get more eyes on it and maybe experiment more with it as a whole. It's still a fine show but there's more potential to be had here that I think has bottomed out when Warner essentially didn't care about them being in the AEW package deal
ROH in the last 3 months is now NWA but without Tyrus being there, and also I see similarities with the NWA in the sense of trying to convince fans to subscribe to a streaming service but all it didnt work as planned in the NWA case thus they put the show on youtube again.
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