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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 4, 2023 12:10:37 GMT -5
I know, I know, I really should be doing the NXT and residuals survey, but with the WWE surveys not getting as much response as the AEW ones do I'm kind of afraid it'd be a really tedious amount of work on my part rounding up a not particularly significant amount of replies where everyone knows going in that Seth's going to be on top anyway because I forgot him before. I might try and fit it in without the residuals between the AEW one in May and main roster WWE one in the fall, we'll see. Now, I'm limiting this from 2013 to 2022 for a few reasons. One, it avoids anything happening while the survey's running that might end up being a contender, two, it gives us a clean decade-long period to derive from, and, three, it should help cut down on recency bias being at least two months and change removed from anything valid to count. If this does well I might do a follow-up best matches survey since I think that'd also be interesting. Now, I've done a couple of match ones before... WrestleMania Main EventsWorst WrestleMania Matches... and I was inspired by a post made by spagett in the Bray Wyatt thread to see just how exactly a poll like this would shake out. Imagine there'll be a wealth of hot takes to come from it. The scoring on this will work like it did in the WrestleMania matches survey, with the matches you assign to lower numbers getting more points. #10-#8: 1 point #7-5: 2 points #4-2: 3 points #1: 5 points Like with that survey the things that place in the top 10 (maybe even top 20, we'll see how varied and how plentiful the responses are) I will personally endure and write up my thoughts on. ... Hoping I don't have to fire up any Saudi shows on Peacock but I can think of at least two matches I'm probably going to have to sit through from them. That being said... YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR RESPONSES HERE. PLEASE BE SURE TO ALSO LIST THE SHOW THE MATCH IS FROM.Voting will run until the 25th and then I'll try to get everything compiled before WrestleMania.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 4, 2023 13:19:25 GMT -5
Took a lot of looking around at consensus picks for the worst match of each year to refresh myself, and filtering out ones I haven't seen but know are horrible like Seth / Fiend, DX / BoD, and one I'm sorely tempted to vote for entirely for why it happened, Lars Sullivan / Lucha House Party. That said my personal list came out at... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}10. Intercontinental Elimination Chamber 2015 9. Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler - Stomping Grounds 2019 8. Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton - WrestleMania 33 7. Randy Orton vs. Brock Lesnar - SummerSlam 2016 6. John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt - Extreme Rules 2014 5. Roman Reigns vs. Triple H - WrestleMania 32 4. Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns - WrestleMania 33 3. Women's Elimination Chamber 2020 2. Undertaker vs. Goldberg - Super Showdown 2019 1. 2015 Royal Rumble Some runner-ups I considered but didn't go with are B-Fab vs. Katrina Cortez, Reigns / Lesnar from Mania 34, Edge / Orton from Mania 36, the Orton / Wyatt Mania 35 match, and the Alexa / Bayley Kendo Stick on a Pole match. I also really wanted to put one from the 2016 Summer of Darren Young up but poking through a few of his matches from that period they're all terrible but not really bad enough in isolation, it's more the snowball effect of how consistently unwatchable the dude was at that point. That said I did really want to try and do more midcard stuff and not have so many main-eventers but the issue you run into with that is 1), that stuff doesn't tend be as memorable, and 2), that stuff doesn't tend to be as long and length is often the killer more than anything on these.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Mar 4, 2023 13:31:56 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez is one of the most absurd things that WWE has ever put on. Dudes were legit having a boring clinch fight in a wrestling match.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 13:44:39 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez is one of the most absurd things that WWE has ever put on. Dudes were legit having a boring clinch fight in a wrestling match. Kofi's title reign that had all the fan support in the world ended over this feud I just want everyone to be reminded that WWE legitimately lost fans and killed Kofi dead as a main eventer over this f***ing dogshit feud and match lol
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 4, 2023 13:47:05 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez is one of the most absurd things that WWE has ever put on. Dudes were legit having a boring clinch fight in a wrestling match. Kofi's title reign that had all the fan support in the world ended over this feud I just want everyone to be reminded that WWE legitimately lost fans and killed Kofi dead as a main eventer over this f***ing dogshit feud and match lol And it was the first show after the premiere of Dynamite.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 13:51:57 GMT -5
I can't think of a coherant list right now and where to place them but
- Taker vs Goldberg- Crown Jewel
- Taker and Kane vs HHH and Michaels- Crown Jewel
- Fiend vs Seth- Hell in a Cell
- Orton vs Fiend and/or Orton vs Wyatt both from a Mania
- Brock Lesnar vs Kofi Kingston from the first FOX Smackdown
- Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez from Crown Jewel
- Taker vs Roman from Mania
- The Ambrose vs Seth blood feud match that started with a simple lockup, can't remember the exact show
Are definitely all worthy of consideration for this. I'm sure there are also some Divas Era matches that were still humming along from 2013 and beyond that could take up a spot or two, and then Nia Jax vs Charlotte because well... yeah.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 13:53:24 GMT -5
Kofi's title reign that had all the fan support in the world ended over this feud I just want everyone to be reminded that WWE legitimately lost fans and killed Kofi dead as a main eventer over this f***ing dogshit feud and match lol And it was the first show after the premiere of Dynamite. The blowback was so bad I believe Matt Jackson simply sent out a "Watch Dynamite on Wednesdays" tweet lmfao
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 4, 2023 13:58:36 GMT -5
There was an episode of RAW that provided two contenders - Nia/Charlotte (yes that one) and Omos/Morrison.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 14:02:51 GMT -5
There was an episode of RAW that provided two contenders - Nia/Charlotte (yes that one) and Omos/Morrison. Around that same era was when Commander Azeez had a match and seemed to forget how to pin someone correctly...
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 4, 2023 14:03:48 GMT -5
There was an episode of RAW that provided two contenders - Nia/Charlotte (yes that one) and Omos/Morrison. Around that same era was when Commander Azeez had a match and seemed to forget how to pin someone correctly...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 14:05:26 GMT -5
Around that same era was when Commander Azeez had a match and seemed to forget how to pin someone correctly... Man this was like one of the last WWE shows before the pandemic too wasnt it? Azeez probably wishes this shit happened in the empty PC lmfao
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 4, 2023 14:12:21 GMT -5
Around that same era was when Commander Azeez had a match and seemed to forget how to pin someone correctly... Wasn't there also one where Omos tried to pin him and Azeez just wouldn't get in position for it?
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Post by 67 more on Mar 4, 2023 14:38:43 GMT -5
Man this was like one of the last WWE shows before the pandemic too wasnt it? Azeez probably wishes this shit happened in the empty PC lmfao Worse, this is post-Thunderdome
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 14:39:39 GMT -5
Man this was like one of the last WWE shows before the pandemic too wasnt it? Azeez probably wishes this shit happened in the empty PC lmfao Worse, this is post-Thunderdome Man I forgot that Apollo and Azeez survived that long ... Probably not much longer lol
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Post by spagett on Mar 4, 2023 14:44:20 GMT -5
I'm struggling to get my top 10 in an order I like and I'm worried I'll forget an obvious one.
It's very tough this!
That horrendous PPV match with Firefly Funhouse Bray vs The Miz just popped into my head before, that might make the list.
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Post by 67 more on Mar 5, 2023 1:47:32 GMT -5
Worse, this is post-Thunderdome Man I forgot that Apollo and Azeez survived that long ... Probably not much longer lol Their last tag match I can find together is the May 18 2022 Main Event show.
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Post by government mule on Mar 5, 2023 5:06:38 GMT -5
First thing that comes to mind is Fiend vs Seth HIAC.
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Post by XIII on Mar 5, 2023 14:19:28 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez is one of the most absurd things that WWE has ever put on. Dudes were legit having a boring clinch fight in a wrestling match. Just wait until this years Mania when Brock will push Omos against the ropes and guillotine him in 35 seconds. LMAO
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Post by Chiral on Mar 5, 2023 14:41:32 GMT -5
My initial list has a lot of Brock, Bray, and Roman but I need to think of if I'm missing any real stinkers lol
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 5, 2023 14:47:48 GMT -5
My initial list has a lot of Brock, Bray, and Roman but I need to think of if I'm missing any real stinkers lol I already submitted mine but I do feel like I might end up editing it later since I guarantee I missed shit. Was wanting to keep it to stuff I've actually seen so I know I left some notable terrible stuff off of it.
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