Zone Was Wrong
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 21, 2023 11:10:12 GMT -5
Corny's codependent enabler has now stated on Twitter that maybe Riho is under stress because her home life is bad and that (paraphrasing) "Kenny might not let her leave the house when she isn't working". Reading this I was like WTH!? They won't let the Riho only has her AEW position because she's Kenny's special friend garbage go, sick and twisted. I swear, Rackett man and his cronies can never seem to decide on if they want to be homophobic to Kenny or if they want to paint him as a groomer/school girl fetishest. I'd say that speaks to some nuance of them at least thinking he's bi or some shit but I won't give them any kind of credit like that.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Mar 21, 2023 11:15:35 GMT -5
It's funny that Eddie is such a cool guy considering he always carries himself like he's 5 minutes seconds away from turning back into that picture of him with the gas can. Fixed for accuracy
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Post by Celgress on Mar 21, 2023 11:19:07 GMT -5
Corny's codependent enabler has now stated on Twitter that maybe Riho is under stress because her home life is bad and that (paraphrasing) "Kenny might not let her leave the house when she isn't working". Reading this I was like WTH!? They won't let the Riho only has her AEW position because she's Kenny's special friend garbage go, sick and twisted. I swear, Rackett man and his cronies can never seem to decide on if they want to be homophobic to Kenny or if they want to paint him as a groomer/school girl fetishest. I'd say that speaks to some nuance of them at least thinking he's bi or some shit but I won't give them any kind of credit like that. Corn Ball is very lucky Kenny is so easygoing. Some of the things he's said about Kenny are clearly slanderous with no wiggle room (like the infamous "he's blanking her that's why she's there!" comment). Kenny and Riho too could sue Carn Ball and make him prove they have a romantic relationship and that is the only reason AEW hired her. Worse yet for Corn Ball and his Codependent Enabler most of these comments are recorded and freely available on Youtube and other platforms for anyone to hear at any time.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 21, 2023 11:19:59 GMT -5
Corny's codependent enabler has now stated on Twitter that maybe Riho is under stress because her home life is bad and that (paraphrasing) "Kenny might not let her leave the house when she isn't working". Reading this I was like WTH!? They won't let the Riho only has her AEW position because she's Kenny's special friend garbage go, sick and twisted. I swear, Rackett man and his cronies can never seem to decide on if they want to be homophobic to Kenny or if they want to paint him as a groomer/school girl fetishest. I'd say that speaks to some nuance of them at least thinking he's bi or some shit but I won't give them any kind of credit like that. Not gonna lie, at least half of the reason why I want Kota Ibushi in AEW and the Golden Lovers to do their thing is to see the heads explode.
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Post by khali on Mar 21, 2023 16:32:53 GMT -5
Have you seem Cornette's """epic"" nicknames and how much his fanbase love it? Is it any surprise they act like 10 year olds? How dare you. Calling Joey Janela "Jelly Nutella" is the height of wit. And "Twinkletoes McFingerbang" - you gotta give it up for Oscar Wilde-like wordplay that good. The nicknames alone make the shows unlistenable. If you were listening for the first time, you wouldn’t be able to follow a damn thing he’s saying since he refuses to use anything except the dumb names.
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Post by jm on Mar 21, 2023 17:59:43 GMT -5
Corny's codependent enabler has now stated on Twitter that maybe Riho is under stress because her home life is bad and that (paraphrasing) "Kenny might not let her leave the house when she isn't working". This is the real reason she left Social Media not harassment from cultists and other online trolls. Reading this I was like WTH!? They won't let the Riho only has her AEW position because she's Kenny's special friend garbage go, sick and twisted. Cornette and Last are literally Cartman in this episode of South Park:
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 21, 2023 18:10:52 GMT -5
Just playing devil's advocate here but isn't there a years old stickied post on here saying that threads about cornette would not be tolerated. Or is it just OK when it's a certain point of view? Surely if its OK to talk about how everyone who listens to his podcast is a dick and a scummy piece of shit, said scummy pieces of shit like myself should be able to talk to other pieces of shit on here about how we get slandered simply because of what entertainment we choose to consume?
I would have assumed the mods would have locked this up as soon as it turned into what it has but here we are.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Mar 21, 2023 19:19:14 GMT -5
Just playing devil's advocate here but isn't there a years old stickied post on here saying that threads about cornette would not be tolerated. Or is it just OK when it's a certain point of view? Surely if its OK to talk about how everyone who listens to his podcast is a dick and a scummy piece of shit, said scummy pieces of shit like myself should be able to talk to other pieces of shit on here about how we get slandered simply because of what entertainment we choose to consume? I would have assumed the mods would have locked this up as soon as it turned into what it has but here we are. I’m gonna just repeat what I said the last time this whistle got blown. I don't want to speak for the mods, but I hardly think that the ban on Cornette threads was to provide a dogwhistle for his supporters to blow to shut down relevant threads where his rampant douchebaggery is the clear and obvious source of the issue. I think it was more to prevent constant threads being made about his divisive anti-AEW takes that would inevitably devolve into a shitshow. At this point, I would understand if the mods chose to lock this, but I don’t think it’s because anything that anyone has said violated any rules, it’s just because everything that can be said has been. And no one has slandered Cornette listeners. Truth is an absolute defense to defamation. And all that people have done in this thread is literally post direct quotes from Cornette’s podcast. If that makes you uncomfortable, then maybe it is worth reconsidering the kind of person you’re supporting?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 21, 2023 19:31:01 GMT -5
This isn't supposed to be about Jim Cornette but Jim Cornette keeps making the topic about Jim Cornette. If the mods think we should discuss this issue without talking about the person who is right now continuing to flog this issue out and continuing to slander the victim that the thread is about, then that is the mods' decision to make and I'll respect that decision, but the issue as it stands sort of only exists because of him so that's going to be a tricky thread to keep managing.
Although man it's kinda exhausting to see some #NotAllCornetteListeners nonsense dropped into the thread with nary an acknowledgment of the actual victim of what's going on here and what's been said. Miss me with that.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Mar 21, 2023 19:36:02 GMT -5
This isn't supposed to be about Jim Cornette but Jim Cornette keeps making the topic about Jim Cornette. If the mods think we should discuss this issue without talking about the person who is right now continuing to flog this issue out and continuing to slander the victim that the thread is about, then that is the mods' decision to make and I'll respect that decision, but the issue as it stands sort of only exists because of him so that's going to be a tricky thread to keep managing. Although man it's kinda exhausting to see some #NotAllCornetteListeners nonsense dropped into the thread with nary an acknowledgment of the actual victim of what's going on here and what's been said. Miss me with that. Yeah, there is some kind of irony in the fact that Cornette listeners are claiming to be slandered because people are pointing out that what Cornette is doing is real, actual slander.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 21, 2023 19:41:39 GMT -5
No one is talking about Jim Cornette outside of the rhetoric that he has spewed about a very real woman who has deleted socials because of it, and other wrestlers have followed suit because of how bad it was, and he is doubling and tripling down along with Brian Last (Who isn't banned) about the situation and they simply keep attacking anyone that moves and somehow, making them and the situation worse than when it even started
The original reason the Cornette ban was issued is because multiple threads were made A DAY about different topics on his podcast, and they all ended the same way, people saying "F*** Cornette" and locked, this isn't random, this is a real, developing incident, that has impacted several people
At some point you have to stop trying to be like 'I thought we weren't SUPPOSED to talk about him here?" no we weren't allowed to spam his bullshit here when it didn't lead to actual coherent topic and discussion, and wasn't really anything worthwhile to be discussing, it just went in a circle. This is not that, this has everything to do with Riho being verbally abused and bullied online and at shows, and it's because of Jim Cornette and his Podcast/Cult flunkies making ORGANIZED MEETINGS about the subject while Last says he didn't do anything to instigate it while coming up with an "Award" where he sents said cult to attack random people online who don't agree with them
This is a way more serious situation than shit's been in the past, that's why the "To be a devil's advocate" on the Mod rule doesn't work here. No mod has said anything about it, if we were going too far, something would have been said long ago, we're 20 pages in and there's still a lot of relevancy to this situation that keeps happening, and that's in large part to Cornette and Last not letting it go
So in conclusion... threads fine, f*** Cornette, f*** his cult and that includes the lurkers who are even on FAN, I'm glad you got to see 20 plus pages of people telling you how much you suck, if they want that to continue here's to another 20 pages, and I really hope Riho's ok.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 21, 2023 19:46:37 GMT -5
Just playing devil's advocate here but isn't there a years old stickied post on here saying that threads about cornette would not be tolerated. Or is it just OK when it's a certain point of view? Surely if its OK to talk about how everyone who listens to his podcast is a dick and a scummy piece of shit, said scummy pieces of shit like myself should be able to talk to other pieces of shit on here about how we get slandered simply because of what entertainment we choose to consume? I would have assumed the mods would have locked this up as soon as it turned into what it has but here we are. If you openly choose to support and watch Jim Cornette, I don't know what you're exactly expected to get from fans who aren't also watching Jim Cornette He's hurt people, legitimately continues to try and trash peoples reputations for no reason other than clicks or money. And if you wanna say "Well I enjoy his other stuff" I don't care, no one else here cares, at this point watching Jim Cornette and choosing to ignore what he's doing is a legitimate problem because you and anyone else who does is fueling this behavior and this rhetoric because you're giving his Podcast more fuel and more life, same with his cult and the "power" they think they have that they can go out there and be racist scumbags to Riho and anyone else they feel like it. As polite as I can make this, find new media to consume, and maybe you wouldn't have to think you're getting slandered or feel a need to defend yourself for watching Jim Cornette. It's not worth it, it was never worth it, but in 2023 this fossil has quickly proven he doesn't deserve to be listened to for one minute longer. The thread turning into "What it has" is also Cornette and Last's fault, we are taking EXACT QUOTES from their Podcast, audio included and messages about the situation via Twitter and otherwise. Nothing is being misconstrued, nothing is being twisted, it's literally what they've said, and what they've done. I don't exactly know what you want here, the people you think are getting slandered, are doing nothing to prevent that, they're just making it worse, and that's on them. It's really not worth it to be a Jim Cornette fan, and if you feel attacked because you are a Jim Cornette fan, and willingly still want to be a Jim Cornette fan in 2023... good luck, this thread should show you why that's a stupid idea, if Jim Cornette's own mouth hasn't first.
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Post by Dan Royal on Mar 21, 2023 19:51:47 GMT -5
So from what I've seen. Riho's last tweet was basically her apologizing to her fans because her match was cut from Rampage. Then her fans starting tagging Tony Khan and complaining about the match being cut. This obviously being embarrassing for Riho that her fans are bitching at her boss, was the reason she deleted her twitter.
This is just speculation, I can't read what goes on in Rihos head. But there's more proof of that, than it being Cornette or his followers.
And on a side note, there's also been some posts in this thread that are breaking the "No Wishing Harm" rule.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 21, 2023 19:57:45 GMT -5
So from what I've seen. Riho's last tweet was basically her apologizing to her fans because her match was cut from Rampage. Then her fans starting tagging Tony Khan and complaining about the match being cut. This obviously being embarrassing for Riho that her fans are bitching at her boss, was the reason she deleted her twitter. This is just speculation, I can't read what goes on in Rihos head. But there's more proof of that, than it being Cornette or his followers. And on a side note, there's also been some posts in this thread that are breaking the "No Wishing Harm" rule. Riho's match wasn't cut through, it was the main event of that Rampage?? I don't buy this for a single second, especially when Eddie Kingston deleted his own Twitter due to the nasty shit that was being directed at Riho on the site. Nor does this magically handwave anything away that Cornette and Last have said about Riho in the past, or now, the people who bombarded her thank you cards with hate, or the racist rhetoric that's all within everything mentioned, even if this happened to be true... and it isn't. Also throwing stones at people who might be angry for racism and bigotry being openly showcased towards real people imo is the most nitpicky shit towards people who really don't deserve leniency. That being said, I don't think anyone here has been over the line with the context presented tbh Riho also wrote this on Instagram, which was definitely not from her bitching about a match that was never cut from the show in the first place.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 21, 2023 20:05:14 GMT -5
So from what I've seen. Riho's last tweet was basically her apologizing to her fans because her match was cut from Rampage. Then her fans starting tagging Tony Khan and complaining about the match being cut. This obviously being embarrassing for Riho that her fans are bitching at her boss, was the reason she deleted her twitter. This is just speculation, I can't read what goes on in Rihos head. But there's more proof of that, than it being Cornette or his followers. And on a side note, there's also been some posts in this thread that are breaking the "No Wishing Harm" rule. Eddie Kingston saw enough abuse directed at Riho to delete his Twitter over it.
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Post by Dan Royal on Mar 21, 2023 20:08:25 GMT -5
So from what I've seen. Riho's last tweet was basically her apologizing to her fans because her match was cut from Rampage. Then her fans starting tagging Tony Khan and complaining about the match being cut. This obviously being embarrassing for Riho that her fans are bitching at her boss, was the reason she deleted her twitter. This is just speculation, I can't read what goes on in Rihos head. But there's more proof of that, than it being Cornette or his followers. And on a side note, there's also been some posts in this thread that are breaking the "No Wishing Harm" rule. Eddie Kingston saw enough abuse directed at Riho to delete his Twitter over it. Did he say anything about it being Cornette or his followers?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 21, 2023 20:10:38 GMT -5
So from what I've seen. Riho's last tweet was basically her apologizing to her fans because her match was cut from Rampage. Then her fans starting tagging Tony Khan and complaining about the match being cut. This obviously being embarrassing for Riho that her fans are bitching at her boss, was the reason she deleted her twitter. This is just speculation, I can't read what goes on in Rihos head. But there's more proof of that, than it being Cornette or his followers. And on a side note, there's also been some posts in this thread that are breaking the "No Wishing Harm" rule. Have you seen image proof of this? Because Riho was on Rampage that week, and the week before. There seems to be no period where she had a match that was cut I can see anywhere.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 21, 2023 20:12:07 GMT -5
Eddie Kingston saw enough abuse directed at Riho to delete his Twitter over it. Did he say anything about it being Cornette or his followers? Why would he actually need to? It's Cornette and his followers We had our own thank you card here bombarded by negativity, they've reported that they have organized meetings over this shit If you can point to me some other internet entity with as much pull as Cornette and Last have who has also spewed hateful, racist, bigoted rhetoric at Riho and Omega, and spread falsehoods about them both being in a relationship and batshit stories about him locking her in his bedroom, stuff they've said for years by the wall, all documented, please, I'm all ears, would love to hear it and continue to hear this whataboutism about how somehow this isn't Cornette and Last's fault and this isn't their cult fans.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 21, 2023 20:20:01 GMT -5
What really stands out to me about the "this isn't because of Jim Cornette" defenses is that it stops entirely with that sentiment. Just the flat phrase "Jim didn't do this", with no pittance of "But he probably still shouldn't say this stuff" or "Him doubling down and saying worse shit is really f***ed up though I wish he wouldn't". Just kinda overlooking any harassment she's taking on and the slander from Cornette's own actual mouth on his web show. Like, is him still running his mouth post-twitter deletion about how Kenny won't let Riho let the house anymore okay because her twitter's already deleted so it can't be extra-deleted, therefore it's cool? Just seems like it's kind of exposing yourself if you're really intent on defending Jim Cornette but can't spare a few keystrokes to even say "Riho doesn't deserve harassment". I don't think there's inherently zero room to say "This is f***ed up but I don't think blaming Cornette specifically is right", but it's very telling where your interests lay if you can only say the last bit.
Undeniably racist stuff comes out of the man's mouth and he has directed it at Riho for years. If all you can say is "We don't know that he pulled the trigger" and you ignore his actions entirely because of that, you're telling on yourself and maybe there's a reason people take such a dim view of his fanboys.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Mar 21, 2023 20:20:33 GMT -5
I’m truly mystified we’ve gotten to the point of WELL ACKSHUHLY there’s no proof it was Cornette’s followers, as Cornette has actively created an award to encourage his followers to cyberbully even more people.
I’ll refrain from pointing out what this reminds me of, because that actually would violate the board’s rules on politics.
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