coleslaw
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Post by coleslaw on Mar 22, 2023 9:14:31 GMT -5
I'd like to hear "Mike's mild takes" - a podcast by Mike Bennett. "Riho is okay" "I don't have a problem with Kenny Omega" "Yeah. I think MJF is a bad person."
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 22, 2023 9:17:23 GMT -5
I think I'm done with this thread. I've given more thought to Cornette this fine Wednesday afternoon than I wanted to give to him in my entire life.
I would, however, subscribe to Mike Bennet's Mild Takes.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 22, 2023 9:17:32 GMT -5
How is it racist? He's talking about how they are so bad a wrestling the only way they could get booked is if this unbelievable scenario was playing out. Nothing to do with race. Calling an entire race bad at wrestling isn't racist? Calling them all schoolgirls isn't racist? Swap out 'Japanese' for another minority group and see if you still think it isn't racist. Cornette is playing on long-held racist stereotypes that say that Japanese women are subservient, little girls. There's a reason he's saying this about Riho and not about any of the white wrestlers. I have a feeling that there isn't much point in continuing down this line but nowhere was it said that an entire race was bad at wrestling. Nowhere. Is the schoolgirls verbiage appropriate? maybe not, but overtly racist, I don't think so. Stereotypical, definitely.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 22, 2023 9:26:14 GMT -5
And we are now seeing why Cornette threads always get locked. Again if you enjoy listening to Cornette whatever, but when there are years worth of not so veiled racism I don't understand the need to vehemently defend someone It's actually kind of poetic seeing a thread about Cornette manage to avoid all of the things that actually got Cornette threads banned--circular defenses and "this is just a joke" racism apologism--up until someone goes "Ummm aren't Cornette threads banned? Hypocrites" and then a couple pages later be back in the dirt of everything that those threads were nightmares because of. Ask a Jim Cornette fan to give the most milquetoast "I like the guy but yeah the racism is pretty bad" comment and he'd rather reveal he's a level 20 yoga expert who can twist in ways that you have never perceived before before giving a shred of regard to the people Jim targets and just openly f***ing slanders because it's a joke bro, spending three years doing protacted bits about Kenny Omega grooming teenagers to be his exotic barely legal fetish wives is a completely reasonable thing and you just hate comedy.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Mar 22, 2023 9:27:29 GMT -5
And we are now seeing why Cornette threads always get locked. Again if you enjoy listening to Cornette whatever, but when there are years worth of not so veiled racism I don't understand the need to vehemently defend someone It's actually kind of poetic seeing a thread about Cornette manage to avoid all of the things that actually got Cornette threads banned--circular defenses and "this is just a joke" racism apologism--up until someone goes "Ummm aren't Cornette threads banned? Hypocrites" and then a couple pages later be back in the dirt of everything that those threads were nightmares because of. Ask a Jim Cornette fan to give the most milquetoast "I like the guy but yeah the racism is pretty bad" comment and he'd rather reveal he's a level 20 yoga expert who can twist in ways that you have never perceived before. Those damn "linguistic semantics"...
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 22, 2023 9:36:52 GMT -5
The guy who said with his own words "we don't want a bunch of f***in' interchangeable Japanese guys who we cannot understand what the f*** words are comin' out of their mouths doing f***ing wrestling" and who singles out Japanese wrestlers as specific targets of ridicule and unflattering stereotypes is DEFINITELY NOT RACIST you guys and you're actually literally just as bad as he is for saying he is. Checkmate.
Edit: BUT REMEMBER JIM CORNETTE ISN'T BAD he's not bad he's very good and doing nothing wrong here the only bad is you saying he's bad remember that
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Post by SneakMan on Mar 22, 2023 9:41:07 GMT -5
The guy who said with his own words "we don't want a bunch of f***in' interchangeable Japanese guys who we cannot understand what the f*** words are comin' out of their mouths doing f***ing wrestling" and who singles out Japanese wrestlers as specific targets of ridicule and unflattering stereotypes is DEFINITELY NOT RACIST you guys and you're actually literally just as bad as he is for saying he is. Checkmate. Edit: BUT REMEMBER JIM CORNETTE ISN'T BAD he's not bad he's very good and doing nothing wrong here the only bad is you saying he's bad remember that "He wasn't critiquing all Japanese guys, he was critiquing interchangeable Japanese guys. You're the one making it a race thing! I am not at all arguing semantics and am, in fact, very smart."
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Mar 22, 2023 9:45:07 GMT -5
The guy who said with his own words "we don't want a bunch of f***in' interchangeable Japanese guys who we cannot understand what the f*** words are comin' out of their mouths doing f***ing wrestling" and who singles out Japanese wrestlers as specific targets of ridicule and unflattering stereotypes is DEFINITELY NOT RACIST you guys and you're actually literally just as bad as he is for saying he is. Checkmate. Edit: BUT REMEMBER JIM CORNETTE ISN'T BAD he's not bad he's very good and doing nothing wrong here the only bad is you saying he's bad remember that Look, man. I don’t condone Cornette’s racist and bigoted opinions. But I ALSO don’t condone your opinion that he is racist and bigoted.
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Post by coleslaw on Mar 22, 2023 10:02:04 GMT -5
yeah idk I just find it hard to take anyone's criticism about another person seriously when they refer to them as "bucktooth" and "homely chinless little midget"
if you think Riho's size makes her matches less believable, sure, that's your opinion, perfectly valid. when you attack someone purely for their looks and seem to have an odd obsession with their ethnicity and want to make claims about grooming that, to my knowledge, have no substantial evidence to back anything like that? Yeah, you can get f***ed.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 22, 2023 10:11:40 GMT -5
It's actually kind of poetic seeing a thread about Cornette manage to avoid all of the things that actually got Cornette threads banned--circular defenses and "this is just a joke" racism apologism--up until someone goes "Ummm aren't Cornette threads banned? Hypocrites" and then a couple pages later be back in the dirt of everything that those threads were nightmares because of. Ask a Jim Cornette fan to give the most milquetoast "I like the guy but yeah the racism is pretty bad" comment and he'd rather reveal he's a level 20 yoga expert who can twist in ways that you have never perceived before. Those damn "linguistic semantics"... Yeah they are a pain in the butt aren't they.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 22, 2023 10:21:17 GMT -5
The guy who said with his own words "we don't want a bunch of f***in' interchangeable Japanese guys who we cannot understand what the f*** words are comin' out of their mouths doing f***ing wrestling" and who singles out Japanese wrestlers as specific targets of ridicule and unflattering stereotypes is DEFINITELY NOT RACIST you guys and you're actually literally just as bad as he is for saying he is. Checkmate. Edit: BUT REMEMBER JIM CORNETTE ISN'T BAD he's not bad he's very good and doing nothing wrong here the only bad is you saying he's bad remember that "He wasn't critiquing all Japanese guys, he was critiquing interchangeable Japanese guys. You're the one making it a race thing! I am not at all arguing semantics and am, in fact, very smart." If you don't say all Japanese people are interchangeable then it must mean they aren't. Not all Japanese people look the same to him. Just some or most of them, who he doesn't care to tell apart. If you don't use a slur it's not outright racism.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 22, 2023 10:35:28 GMT -5
f*** Jim "Southern Vince Russo" Cornette and his racist ass podcast. There is your lock of week.
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