Riho deletes Twitter after negative comments.

[chazraps]

Jim Cornette is a dumb out of touch racist.

[jm]

For anyone that thought that Cornette and Brian Last would show any sort of contrition or remorse for Riho taking down her Twitter, here are a couple "highlights" of their episode that came out today. I........I.............I don't even know what to say.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

But you know people just really wanna blame Jim Cornette, a good man who doesn't say or do bad things and isn't a pinata of hatred or anything. You just don't like that he doesn't like flippy nobodies and you're taking it out on him while he continues to be nothing but an innocent and good person full of reason.

Give me a f***ing break.

[mc74]

Mar 13, 2023 14:09:07 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Mar 13, 2023 13:38:36 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

If it's a Facebook group then you have to have no harassment as part of the rules otherwise it'll get the Zuckerberg ban hammer. If he calls it out on his podcast I'll believe he means it.

I said it in another thread and I'll say it here as well. I don't care if 99% of what Cornette says is the most insightful and intelligent wrestling analysis in the world. As soon as he starts on his schoolgirl and twinkletoes nonsense, it cancels all of that out. Anyone willing to overlook Cornette's racism just for wrestling analysis needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.

Also, there's a difference between "Don't harass people right now in this group you're in that we moderate" and "Don't harass people I don't like who aren't here somewhere else where I'm not 'responsible' for it". Cornette does not reign in his fanbase and makes no effort to tell people to cool it.

If Cornette really wanted to reign in his camp, he would've done so long ago on his broadcast as well as publicly on social media to get the point across. But since he's the kind of person who takes delight in stoking the flames, he's not going to do that. Getting his fanbase riled up is what gets him a ton of publicity and keeps him relevant.

[jm]

Mar 13, 2023 21:56:25 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

But you know people just really wanna blame Jim Cornette, a good man who doesn't say or do bad things and isn't a pinata of hatred or anything. You just don't like that he doesn't like flippy nobodies and you're taking it out on him while he continues to be nothing but an innocent and good person full of reason.

Give me a f***ing break.

Anyone that could possibly find something to like about those two sexist racist misogynistic cretins is someone who needs to take a good look in the mirror and evaluate how they see people. Full stop.

[mc74]

Mar 13, 2023 22:02:57 GMT -5 jm said:

Mar 13, 2023 21:56:25 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

But you know people just really wanna blame Jim Cornette, a good man who doesn't say or do bad things and isn't a pinata of hatred or anything. You just don't like that he doesn't like flippy nobodies and you're taking it out on him while he continues to be nothing but an innocent and good person full of reason.

Give me a f***ing break.

Anyone that could possibly find something to like about those two sexist racist misogynistic cretins is someone who needs to take a good look in the mirror and evaluate how they see people. Full stop.

Like, I can appreciate Cornette's work as a heel manager & whatnot, but that's where the buck stops. As far as his personal views are concerned, I can't respect someone who holds such disgusting views.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 13, 2023 21:53:12 GMT -5 jm said:

For anyone that thought that Cornette and Brian Last would show any sort of contrition or remorse for Riho taking down her Twitter, here are a couple "highlights" of their episode that came out today. I........I.............I don't even know what to say.

Yeah I didn't think they'd show remorse at all, because guess what? In order to show remorse, you actually have to feel sorry for what you say or do

They don't, and if they did, they'd lose their devoted cult and then they'd lose money. Ruining peoples lives is worth their own personal, selfish gain. 

Anyone who defends Cornette and Last at this point needs to seriously reconsider where their heads are at. Defending racist scumbags isn't the hill I'd die on trying to play devil's advocate for, especially when their unapologetic about rhetoric and hate perpetuation similar to that which has gotten people in terrible headspaces and positions, or ended up in death in the past like Hana Kimura.

This is some dangerous fire they're playing with, and unfortunately they don't have the spine to admit any wrongdoing, which is why I always fear the worst unless they are literally forced to stop doing what they're doing. They won't stop until something happens that can't be undone. It just makes me sick tbh.

Like if you respect Cornette for what he did in the past? Fine. If you give this dude views and think he's funny or like hearing about his current takes? Sorry, but I think you're just continuing to add on to the problem. These dudes doesn't deserve anyone giving them attention, not when they're like this.

[khali]

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 13, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5 khali said:

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

Some of it I believe has been said to be an overblown act. Issue is, it's not an act to his fans, they take it seriously and they actively go out and harass wrestlers online and at shows, it's not a joke with them, it's not a joke to the wrestlers effected, it's a legitimate issue

And Cornette won't admit he's wrong ever, because those deluded fans give him views and money. It's very much like other problematic podcasters out there in other areas, Jim just happens to be the wrestling equivalent.

[Dub H]

Mar 13, 2023 21:53:12 GMT -5 jm said:

For anyone that thought that Cornette and Brian Last would show any sort of contrition or remorse for Riho taking down her Twitter, here are a couple "highlights" of their episode that came out today. I........I.............I don't even know what to say.

[kingoftheindies]

Mar 13, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5 khali said:

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

I think the bigger issue than anything is that because of his fanbase Jim won't accept when he does get rightfully punished. It doesn't matter if he makes an out of touch joke, or gets fired for threatening violence to coworkers you have the fanbase backing his every move or you have people in wrestling shrugging saying "that's just Corny being Corny" so he's just never accepting he messed up.

[khali]

Mar 13, 2023 22:19:27 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 13, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5 khali said:

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

Some of it I believe has been said to be an overblown act. Issue is, it's not an act to his fans, they take it seriously and they actively go out and harass wrestlers online and at shows, it's not a joke with them, it's not a joke to the wrestlers effected, it's a legitimate issue

And Cornette won't admit he's wrong ever, because those deluded fans give him views and money. It's very much like other problematic podcasters out there in other areas, Jim just happens to be the wrestling equivalent.

Oh yeah, he’s certainly doubled down as far as he can for the fans who are into this stuff. He’ll never back down at this point.

And because he’s gone that way, he’ll never gain more people outside that. Even if he managed to do a whole show without being racist, it would probably be incomprehensible to a new listener. You’d find yourself listening to a guy call most of the wrestlers by joke nicknames every time they’re mentioned. It’s a show for his aptly named cult only.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 13, 2023 22:22:51 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Mar 13, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5 khali said:

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

I think the bigger issue than anything is that because of his fanbase Jim won't accept when he does get rightfully punished. It doesn't matter if he makes an out of touch joke, or gets fired for threatening violence to coworkers you have the fanbase backing his every move or you have people in wrestling shrugging saying "that's just Corny being Corny" so he's just never accepting he messed up.

This is what I'm worried about if something serious happens, like if something happens to a wrestler because a Cornette fan assaults them or some shit like that, or something even worse because of the nonstop harassment.

"Oh well you can't PROVE that this all happened because of Cornette and Last, that's just a crazy fan, we're not like them!"

Just f***ing bullshit. If you subscribe to anything Cornette at this point, you're giving this guy views and giving him attention so he can keep spreading his bullshit and potentially keep escalating this shit, especially when he shows he doesn't care.

He won't care unless it threatens to cancel his entire show, and even then, he won't care about the wrestler, he'll care he's about to lose his stupid f***ing podcast.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Mar 13, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5 khali said:

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

That's why the "it's a gimmick" y'all just not in on it has never worked

Either you truly believe this shit (and you have to believe some of it to continue this long) or you a bad person willing to shit on people because it lines your pockets and how dare they not go along with it 

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 13, 2023 22:31:28 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Mar 13, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5 khali said:

Just a random thought I had about Cornette and all of this: if the claim people make that it’s all an act and he’s doing a gimmick is true, that’s even worse! That would mean he’s saying stuff he knows is wrong and doesn’t believe just for the purpose of riling up people who do really believe it.

I personally just think he’s an old misogynist racist, but keep that “oh it’s just a gimmick” point in mind next time someone says it.

That's why the "it's a gimmick" y'all just not in on it has never worked

Either you truly believe this shit (and you have to believe some of it to continue this long) or you a bad person willing to shit on people because it lines your pockets and how dare they not go along with it 

Shoutout to that time Cornette was legitimately enjoying Konosuke Takeshita and then he was told he used to work in DDT and he immediately went right back to his old, racist rhetoric, almost regretfully lmfao

Dude's put himself into a corner, and it's a shitty one, and he has no one to blame but himself. Now he can't enjoy anything and he's responsible for some of the most toxic bullshit in the entire fandom of wrestling, he's gotta live with that, gimmick or not, hope he has a terrible time sleeping at night lol 

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Mar 13, 2023 22:34:13 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 13, 2023 22:31:28 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

That's why the "it's a gimmick" y'all just not in on it has never worked

Either you truly believe this shit (and you have to believe some of it to continue this long) or you a bad person willing to shit on people because it lines your pockets and how dare they not go along with it 

Shoutout to that time Cornette was legitimately enjoying Konosuke Takeshita and then he was told he used to work in DDT and he immediately went right back to his old, racist rhetoric, almost regretfully lmfao

Dude's put himself into a corner, and it's a shitty one, and he has no one to blame but himself. Now he can't enjoy anything and he's responsible for some of the most toxic bullshit in the entire fandom of wrestling, he's gotta live with that, gimmick or not, hope he has a terrible time sleeping at night lol 

Sad thing is he lives fine and probably doesn't have trouble sleeping at night because he is a big f***ing carny and as long as he feel like he is working the marks and idiots in his mind then it is all good 

I also don't remember too much of the wrestling world condeming what he says in terms of wrestlers 

[jm]

Mar 13, 2023 22:20:24 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Mar 13, 2023 21:53:12 GMT -5 jm said:

For anyone that thought that Cornette and Brian Last would show any sort of contrition or remorse for Riho taking down her Twitter, here are a couple "highlights" of their episode that came out today. I........I.............I don't even know what to say.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

If you think so little of Asian people that you will loudly hate them for money and see any harassment they take because of it as just an acceptable cost of getting paid then you're still racist you're just a dishonest one telling yourself you're not really hateful you just wanna get those Patreon bucks. If you weren't racist, you wouldn't profiteer off of hatred toward real people and create real victims in the process.

[mc74]

Mar 13, 2023 22:13:27 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 13, 2023 21:53:12 GMT -5 jm said:

For anyone that thought that Cornette and Brian Last would show any sort of contrition or remorse for Riho taking down her Twitter, here are a couple "highlights" of their episode that came out today. I........I.............I don't even know what to say.

Yeah I didn't think they'd show remorse at all, because guess what? In order to show remorse, you actually have to feel sorry for what you say or do

They don't, and if they did, they'd lose their devoted cult and then they'd lose money. Ruining peoples lives is worth their own personal, selfish gain. 

Anyone who defends Cornette and Last at this point needs to seriously reconsider where their heads are at. Defending racist scumbags isn't the hill I'd die on trying to play devil's advocate for, especially when their unapologetic about rhetoric and hate perpetuation similar to that which has gotten people in terrible headspaces and positions, or ended up in death in the past like Hana Kimura.

This is some dangerous fire they're playing with, and unfortunately they don't have the spine to admit any wrongdoing, which is why I always fear the worst unless they are literally forced to stop doing what they're doing. They won't stop until something happens that can't be undone. It just makes me sick tbh.

Like if you respect Cornette for what he did in the past? Fine. If you give this dude views and think he's funny or like hearing about his current takes? Sorry, but I think you're just continuing to add on to the problem. These dudes doesn't deserve anyone giving them attention, not when they're like this.

I'm afraid it's going to get to that point again, where it takes so much of a toll one one's mental well-being that it leads to something tragic happening again. And the worst part about it? That's not the stopping point for these folk. Rather, it's blood in the water for those sharks.

[mc74]

Mar 13, 2023 22:54:24 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

If you think so little of Asian people that you will loudly hate them for money and see any harassment they take because of it as just an acceptable cost of getting paid then you're still racist you're just a dishonest one telling yourself you're not really hateful you just wanna get those Patreon bucks. If you weren't racist, you wouldn't profiteer off of hatred toward real people and create real victims in the process.

Any decent human being wouldn't stoop so low. Even if they had different viewpoints on what they like in wrestling, they'd still have enough integrity not to endorse this kind of behavior towards others. Any person with a sense of responsibility would've stepped up to the plate to address the issue.