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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 5, 2024 0:33:46 GMT -5
They literally booked him and Nakamura in a bull rope match tomorrow off of this. It's likely just a one-and-done thing for Cody to do and then after that... who knows? Everything about him and Roman and the Rock is kinda stuck in this unchartered waters situation, esp. as fan backlash with Rock strongarming himself into a match with Reigns just grows and grows. It does seem a bit fishy that they haven’t actually officially announced the matches yet. I mean, yeah, it could easily be done on RAW or at that press conference, but I’d have figured WWE, even with the backlash ahead of them, would’ve been like “REIGNS V ROCK IS OFFICIAL” the second they had them on the screen at the same time. Not an ad for the press conference, specifically “Roman Reigns vs The Rock for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship at WrestleMania 40”. The fact that they haven’t is giving everyone hope that may be completely unfounded. |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 5, 2024 0:35:42 GMT -5
Probably put him in a match so they can hype it as the main event all night, he has the 10 minute match and they go off the air. No chance of a promo to hijack. There'll still be opportunities to hijack, esp. if they show any sort of Wrestlemania or Rock-related thing to the crowd, as we saw during NXT Vengeance Day. Video packages that go straight to commercial so you don't get crowd reactions  |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 5, 2024 0:36:18 GMT -5
It's likely just a one-and-done thing for Cody to do and then after that... who knows? Everything about him and Roman and the Rock is kinda stuck in this unchartered waters situation, esp. as fan backlash with Rock strongarming himself into a match with Reigns just grows and grows. It does seem a bit fishy that they haven’t actually officially announced the matches yet. I mean, yeah, it could easily be done on RAW or at that press conference, but I’d have figured WWE, even with the backlash ahead of them, would’ve been like “REIGNS V ROCK IS OFFICIAL” the second they had them on the screen at the same time. Not an ad for the press conference, specifically “Roman Reigns vs The Rock for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship at WrestleMania 39”. The fact that they haven’t is giving everyone hope that may be completely unfounded. Especially with how fast the Iyo vs Bayley graphic went up |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 5, 2024 0:36:44 GMT -5
Probably put him in a match so they can hype it as the main event all night, he has the 10 minute match and they go off the air. No chance of a promo to hijack. be kind of a waste to only go 10 minutes even if the crowds are going to be pissed, when was the last bullrope match on raw/sd? |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 5, 2024 0:39:51 GMT -5
The ongoing investigation is still being discussed as new information comes out, and has not been forgotten about in the slightest, because people have the brain capacity to discuss two different things at once and aren't f***ing toddlers in a crib For a "fake fighting show" you sure seem to give a shit what people think about it, continuing to say you're right, and not owned, as you slowly shrink into a corb cob. Bolt strategy honestly, let's see how it plays out. And the real people who actually have the power to do something are actually just continuing their investigation. I doubt federal prosecutors are stopping their work just because the Rock showed up. Just imagining an FBI bureau where it's a Friday night, everyone's sitting around, tired, looking over documents on the Vince case while Smackdown plays in the background. The Rock segment happens and the whole office goes silent. Guy in charge of the division: Someone order some pizzas, it's about to become a longer night, boys. Agent: You think they're doing this to try and hide the news? Should we dig into this further? Division head: No, we're dropping the case, I want smark rage tweets for the next four hours. This weekend, we're tweeting ratios at The Rock until he cries. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 5, 2024 0:42:19 GMT -5
Probably put him in a match so they can hype it as the main event all night, he has the 10 minute match and they go off the air. No chance of a promo to hijack. be kind of a waste to only go 10 minutes even if the crowds are going to be pissed, when was the last bullrope match on raw/sd? I hate myself for knowing this… Hornswoggle v Chavo Guerrero, 8/31/09 RAW because Dusty Rhodes was guest host. I believe it was a “comedy” match with Chavo dressed as a cow. In terms of one played straight… Batista v JBL, 9/9/05 SmackDown. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 5, 2024 0:44:48 GMT -5
be kind of a waste to only go 10 minutes even if the crowds are going to be pissed, when was the last bullrope match on raw/sd? I hate myself for knowing this… Hornswoggle v Chavo Guerrero, 8/31/09 RAW. I believe it was a “comedy” match with Chavo dressed as a cow. In terms of one played straight… Batista v JBL, 9/9/05 SmackDown. I would’ve guessed the Batista one, I haven’t seen one of those on free tv since I was basically an infant. Or some Eddie Guerrero one but I think that was just the one time with JBL on ppv. Now I’m not dreading the show as much, serves me right for hyper focusing on killer Mike being arrested but at least I get to see one of my favorite match types lmao. |
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Post by gl83 on Feb 5, 2024 0:49:55 GMT -5
Probably put him in a match so they can hype it as the main event all night, he has the 10 minute match and they go off the air. No chance of a promo to hijack. There'll still be opportunities to hijack, esp. if they show any sort of Wrestlemania or Rock-related thing to the crowd, as we saw during NXT Vengeance Day. I feel sorry for whoever's in the the women's match tomorrow because their match is totally gonna get hijacked..... |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 5, 2024 0:50:44 GMT -5
And the real people who actually have the power to do something are actually just continuing their investigation. I doubt federal prosecutors are stopping their work just because the Rock showed up. Just imagining an FBI bureau where it's a Friday night, everyone's sitting around, tired, looking over documents on the Vince case while Smackdown plays in the background. The Rock segment happens and the whole office goes silent. Guy in charge of the division: Someone order some pizzas, it's about to become a longer night, boys. Agent: You think they're doing this to try and hide the news? Should we dig into this further? Division head: No, we're dropping the case, I want smark rage tweets for the next four hours. This weekend, we're tweeting ratios at The Rock until he cries. Then as the heat dies down, they're ready to restart it all up and and then "GUYS, TAYLOR SWIFT'S DROPPING A NEW ALBUM IN APRIL!" "F***ING HELL YEAH BOYS JUST FORGET THIS SHIT ENTIRELY, TIME TO FOCUS ON REAL WORLD ISSUES!" |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 5, 2024 0:50:54 GMT -5
be kind of a waste to only go 10 minutes even if the crowds are going to be pissed, when was the last bullrope match on raw/sd? I hate myself for knowing this… Hornswoggle v Chavo Guerrero, 8/31/09 RAW because Dusty Rhodes was guest host. I believe it was a “comedy” match with Chavo dressed as a cow. In terms of one played straight… Batista v JBL, 9/9/05 SmackDown. I think Dusty had one with Orton but that was on PPV |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Feb 5, 2024 0:52:04 GMT -5
I hate myself for knowing this… Hornswoggle v Chavo Guerrero, 8/31/09 RAW because Dusty Rhodes was guest host. I believe it was a “comedy” match with Chavo dressed as a cow. In terms of one played straight… Batista v JBL, 9/9/05 SmackDown. I think Dusty had one with Orton but that was on PPV 2007 Great American Bash. Which Cody happened to be there for to keep Dusty from a Punt. |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 5, 2024 0:52:45 GMT -5
There'll still be opportunities to hijack, esp. if they show any sort of Wrestlemania or Rock-related thing to the crowd, as we saw during NXT Vengeance Day. I feel sorry for whoever's in the the women's match tomorrow because their match is totally gonna get hijacked..... The NXT crowd were very engaged with the actual matches and only hijacked when the Rock graphic came up. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 5, 2024 0:56:12 GMT -5
As far as the merits of a worked shoot yes movement idea, though; why? Like, what does the story get from that? Cody already had his Wrestlemania match, he's massive over, he's clearly being pushed by the office. There's nothing that needs to be dragged back into having the crowd prove their love for Cody and any audience would only feel exhausted for having to. Like, I think the Kofimania story stands as a great attempt to translate that passion into an actual narrative, and it worked out because of the organic groundswell of a crowd deciding "Give this guy who was never meant to be in this spot the title", the absence of worked shoot inside baseball garbage that made it seem like it was a foggy, doubtful prospect until the very last minute, and because the adversity all came on-screen from a beloved face and his friends facing off against narrative obstacles and clear villains put in their way. On top of obviously Bryan now being the heel who had become what he once fought against, that was a nice touch we obviously lack here.
If this was trying to do that same thing, they took out all the parts that actually worked when they recreated the magic and replaced it with all of what was never what made it a satisfying story to begin with, all for a guy it makes no sense for. Wrestlemania doesn't become a better show because people hate management. WWE in general struggles with this on all their 'we the company are the heels' schtick that does nothing for the show itself. The audience already propelled Cody to the main event. TWICE. People will throw around 'This is a work, the story is fake, you're all being played' but never ask if it actually makes sense.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 5, 2024 1:03:40 GMT -5
What goes against the worked shoot thing as well is, if the idea is to go with Cody then they just got the hopes up for a bunch of Rock fans.
Sure, most of us on here want Cody but there is obviously people who want Rock too.
And then we'll just be in the same situation but with a smaller crowd of disgruntled fans.
It's a no win.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 5, 2024 1:10:28 GMT -5
As far as the merits of a worked shoot yes movement idea, though; why? Like, what does the story get from that? Cody already had his Wrestlemania match, he's massive over, he's clearly being pushed by the office. There's nothing that needs to be dragged back into having the crowd prove their love for Cody and any audience would only feel exhausted for having to. Like, I think the Kofimania story stands as a great attempt to translate that passion into an actual narrative, and it worked out because of the organic groundswell of a crowd deciding "Give this guy who was never meant to be in this spot the title", the absence of worked shoot inside baseball garbage that made it seem like it was a foggy, doubtful prospect until the very last minute, and because the adversity all came on-screen from a beloved face and his friends facing off against narrative obstacles and clear villains put in their way. On top of obviously Bryan now being the heel who had become what he once fought against, that was a nice touch we obviously lack here. If this was trying to do that same thing, they took out all the parts that actually worked when they recreated the magic and replaced it with all of what was never what made it a satisfying story to begin with, all for a guy it makes no sense for. Wrestlemania doesn't become a better show because people hate management. WWE in general struggles with this on all their 'we the company are the heels' schtick that does nothing for the show itself. The audience already propelled Cody to the main event. TWICE. People will throw around 'This is a work, the story is fake, you're all being played' but never ask if it actually makes sense. I think there’s also something to be said for the fans all knowing that it was Vince who was calling the shots when these crowd uproar things happened. Sure you had the Authority but nobody thought those guys actually ran the shows or something, we and casual fans have always known it was Vince. Speaking in regards to Kofimania, it was Vince then too who was on TV putting up the obstacles for Kofi to get through. That doesn’t work right now because besides a lot of us being angry that Cody didn’t win at Mania last year, there has been an extreme amount of goodwill given towards WWE and especially HHH since he was given the keys with Vince unceremoniously leaving. This is not supposed to be the same WWE of old where the writers would have some random hard on for toying with the viewer’s minds and wishes, most people think he has given the fans what they want along with a massive appreciation of heat but not to himself and the people making the shows. It being a work doesn’t make the slightest sense because the company isn’t supposed to be like that now. It puts a bigger target on WWE AND Hunter being incompetent when his ass was already incompetent as f*** at the press conference! 😭 There’s no way he’d sign off on this and go “yeah sure make me look even worse at my job right now” when he just got done Scott Norwooding it up out there. It doesn’t fit. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 5, 2024 2:17:39 GMT -5
O'Shea Jackson Jr is maybe the worst active nepobaby in Hollywood who helped normalize Nick Hausman and acted as one of the worst bad faith f***s during the CM Punk-AEW debacle. And now he's fiending for further social media engagement from wrestling fans because nobody's given a shit about him in the nine years since that movie based on his dad's group's Wikipedia page and being the only castmember not to benefit from working on Cocaine Bear, a movie that was enjoyable in spite of him not becauseof anything he did in it. He's maybe surpassed 'Laugh Now, Cry Later' as the worst thing Ice Cube ever made. Ironically this is the No Vaseline of posts. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 5, 2024 2:38:14 GMT -5
Since this has devolved into "Dwayne Johnson is full of shit: A retrospective": I laughed my dick off when he said he grew up reading Black Adam. Dude, you're 52 years old. IF you were reading any Captain Marvel stories at all when you were a child (and those sales figures were pretty bad, I'm willing to bet), you saw Black Adam as pretty one-note villain who was just "Captain Marvel, but EEEEEVIL" You played Black Adam because someone somewhere did some fantasy casting with the Geoff Johns iteration and it gained some steam. GTFO with the "I read it as a kid" bullshit. It's entirely because a few covers clearly used The Rock as the facial refrence for Adam. |
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Post by repomark on Feb 5, 2024 2:44:17 GMT -5
What goes against the worked shoot thing as well is, if the idea is to go with Cody then they just got the hopes up for a bunch of Rock fans. Sure, most of us on here want Cody but there is obviously people who want Rock too. And then we'll just be in the same situation but with a smaller crowd of disgruntled fans. It's a no win. I think this is just it. A lot of people who are Cody fans are so enraged that they have forgotten that there are a lot of people who actually want to see Rock v Roman. I am not sure yet how much the backlash is a genuine Daniel Bryan level revolt, or a vocal minority online. Guess we will find out soon enough - but Rock v Roman is a dream match (it’s not Batista v Orton like in 2014) - and like you say, Cody is still being booked as the top baby face. He just won the rumble, unlike Daniel Bryan who had no significant place on the WM30 card despite being the most over guy on the roster. Also, genuine question, Cody is popular - but is he really as popular as Daniel Bryan was in 2014? As a recent example - remember how a lot of people thought CM Punk would be bood out the building upon his return to WWE because of how people viewed him online/in this forum? I think we (myself included) are often guilty of conflating the majority view on this forum with the majority view of the wider WWE fanbase. |
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Post by Dan Royal on Feb 5, 2024 3:01:54 GMT -5
What goes against the worked shoot thing as well is, if the idea is to go with Cody then they just got the hopes up for a bunch of Rock fans. Sure, most of us on here want Cody but there is obviously people who want Rock too. And then we'll just be in the same situation but with a smaller crowd of disgruntled fans. It's a no win. I think this is just it. A lot of people who are Cody fans are so enraged that they have forgotten that there are a lot of people who actually want to see Rock v Roman. I am not sure yet how much the backlash is a genuine Daniel Bryan level revolt, or a vocal minority online. Guess we will find out soon enough - but Rock v Roman is a dream match (it’s not Batista v Orton like in 2014) - and like you say, Cody is still being booked as the top baby face. He just won the rumble, unlike Daniel Bryan who had no significant place on the WM30 card despite being the most over guy on the roster. Also, genuine question, Cody is popular - but is he really as popular as Daniel Bryan was in 2014? As a recent example - remember how a lot of people thought CM Punk would be bood out the building upon his return to WWE because of how people viewed him online/in this forum? I think we (myself included) are often guilty of conflating the majority view on this forum with the majority view of the wider WWE fanbase. That's pretty much it. Leading up to Wrestlemania 30, WWE was in one of it's dullest times creatively. Daniel Bryan was one of the few reasons to bother watching. Orton-Batista was the most off the mark booking possible. No one cared about it all. Inserting Bryan into the main event was pretty much a must. Where as now WWE is hot and going to make shit tonnes of money. Cody is cool and over and all. But there's still plenty of other wrestlers on the roster that could hold the fort without him. Yes, the current booking of having a guy win the Rumble, only to bitch out for another guy, is horriblle story telling. But the bottom line is Reigns vs Rock is still a million times more interesting than Orton-Batista. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 5, 2024 3:05:37 GMT -5
I hope they do cave and Cody is put against Roman again. Mostly because I think that bad story decisions deserve to be publicly mocked until the people who made the bad decision feel absolutely cornered and most undo it under duress that leaves them as unhappy as they made others.
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