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Post by yokohamacpfc on Feb 5, 2024 3:13:43 GMT -5
I don't think it's an attempt to copy Yes-mania as the way they went about it (Cody willingly giving his spot up to another face) doesn't fit the held-down martyr narrative. You would instead have Heyman try to fiddle with Reigns' contract or a Bloodline beatdown "injuring" Cody.
I am however open to the idea even if it's a 5% chance because it gives Cody (another) story to do for the 2 months until Mania and even though it's a stupid idea it's wrestling; stupid ideas get the green light all the time. I think it is going to be more like Becky or Kofi's rise where they had a rough idea this fan revolt could happen and therefore have a plan B up their sleeves.
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Post by knightboat on Feb 5, 2024 3:16:59 GMT -5
Sounds like I've got a press conference to go to during Super Bowl week
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 5, 2024 3:18:31 GMT -5
My guess is they'll cement the matches at the press conference but are probably going to keep the door open to potentially pivot to the tournament thing if they have to. I doubt they actually will but I'm guessing they'll tease it. That or they'll go ahead and announce winner vs. winner at SummerSlam upfront in the hope it mitigates the damage.
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 5, 2024 3:43:32 GMT -5
I think this is just it. A lot of people who are Cody fans are so enraged that they have forgotten that there are a lot of people who actually want to see Rock v Roman. I am not sure yet how much the backlash is a genuine Daniel Bryan level revolt, or a vocal minority online. Guess we will find out soon enough - but Rock v Roman is a dream match (it’s not Batista v Orton like in 2014) - and like you say, Cody is still being booked as the top baby face. He just won the rumble, unlike Daniel Bryan who had no significant place on the WM30 card despite being the most over guy on the roster. Also, genuine question, Cody is popular - but is he really as popular as Daniel Bryan was in 2014? Cody gets massive pops and has been moving more merch than anyone else in the company. Dude is red hot and in the same ballpark of popularity as Bryan 2014. As for Rock vs Roman being a dream match, it would be if Dwayne was 10 years younger and didn't get gassed after a single promo.
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Post by msc on Feb 5, 2024 3:59:53 GMT -5
iirc Cody actually sells more merch and is actually more of a draw than Bryan was in 2014?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 5, 2024 4:22:51 GMT -5
What goes against the worked shoot thing as well is, if the idea is to go with Cody then they just got the hopes up for a bunch of Rock fans. Sure, most of us on here want Cody but there is obviously people who want Rock too. And then we'll just be in the same situation but with a smaller crowd of disgruntled fans. It's a no win. I think this is just it. A lot of people who are Cody fans are so enraged that they have forgotten that there are a lot of people who actually want to see Rock v Roman. I am not sure yet how much the backlash is a genuine Daniel Bryan level revolt, or a vocal minority online. Guess we will find out soon enough - but Rock v Roman is a dream match (it’s not Batista v Orton like in 2014) - and like you say, Cody is still being booked as the top baby face. He just won the rumble, unlike Daniel Bryan who had no significant place on the WM30 card despite being the most over guy on the roster. Also, genuine question, Cody is popular - but is he really as popular as Daniel Bryan was in 2014? As a recent example - remember how a lot of people thought CM Punk would be bood out the building upon his return to WWE because of how people viewed him online/in this forum? I think we (myself included) are often guilty of conflating the majority view on this forum with the majority view of the wider WWE fanbase. Did you miss the part where a Tennessee house show booed the video package recapping the Smackdown segment?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 5, 2024 4:30:19 GMT -5
I’m gonna be real here, we’ve all been a hell of a lot nicer about all this than even the most docile of wrestling discussion places online. People are straight up pissed.
You know how you always have those accounts where you’re sure they’re spam bots and go “I love the double e, cena can see me wwe PROUD”? Yeah those people are at jo-ann’s buying material for Rock voodoo dolls. People are angry and this is way worse than DB stuff. If anything, questioning that is more out of touch than anyone out there lmao.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 5, 2024 4:45:39 GMT -5
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Post by repomark on Feb 5, 2024 4:52:39 GMT -5
[/quote]Did you miss the part where a Tennessee house show booed the video package recapping the Smackdown segment?[/quote]
I saw it, but the reaction of a few to a video package at a house show isn’t really an accurate barometer. How would the whole audience have reacted if the Rock’s music hit and he came out at that house show? Imagine those boos would have been drowned out.
My point is that it remains to be seen just how against the match the wider wwe fanbase is. The majority view on this forum isn’t always reflective of that.
Like I said, a lot of people want to see Rock v Roman. It just never should have been at the expense of Cody.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 5, 2024 5:05:14 GMT -5
I saw it, but the reaction of a few to a video package at a house show isn’t really an accurate barometer. How would the whole audience have reacted if the Rock’s music hit and he came out at that house show? Imagine those boos would have been drowned out. My point is that it remains to be seen just how against the match the wider wwe fanbase is. The majority view on this forum isn’t always reflective of that. Like I said, a lot of people want to see Rock v Roman. It just never should have been at the expense of Cody. It's not the ultimate barometer, but I don't think there is any kind of WWE crowd less representative of this board/the IWC bubble/a 'vocal online minority' than a house show in the third largest city in a southern state. I feel like when these two groups are in total agreement, that's usually a sign there's something to the idea of real backlash. Your point is that 'this forum' doesn't reflect that, but you're dismissing the real world evidence from outside of this forum in doing so.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 5, 2024 5:06:19 GMT -5
I saw it, but the reaction of a few to a video package at a house show isn’t really an accurate barometer. How would the whole audience have reacted if the Rock’s music hit and he came out at that house show? Imagine those boos would have been drowned out. My point is that it remains to be seen just how against the match the wider wwe fanbase is. The majority view on this forum isn’t always reflective of that. Like I said, a lot of people want to see Rock v Roman. It just never should have been at the expense of Cody. It's not just here, the majority on Reddit are against it. He got booed when they showed the press conference graphic at Vengeance Day. It's not a good move for WWE.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 5, 2024 5:11:01 GMT -5
From what I can find the previous most downvoted video is Charlotte replacing Becky so the moral is don’t f*** with the Rumble.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 5, 2024 5:17:25 GMT -5
Hell people were booing and shouting “NO!” during Seth’s promo to Cody asking him to pick him before they even got into all of this mess. Not a soul out there thought they’d actually do that and that crowd still didn’t want it.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 5, 2024 5:42:30 GMT -5
I'm sitting here trying to imagine Killer Mike and Cody Rhodes having a conversation, and I kind of just can't do it. Same for Macklemore and The Rock, actually. Huh, but Macklemore and Cody is pretty easy, for some reason.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 5, 2024 5:53:13 GMT -5
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Post by bearned on Feb 5, 2024 6:49:58 GMT -5
Honestly if the thinking is ‘at least this will get Cody more over’ then it’s insane. He’s already super over and he’s been pushed as the top guy since he came back (and in previous years the crowd would have turned on this already). So you are telling me that they think this super over, obviously pushed and never held back superstar - who has won back to back rumbles - is somehow supposed to be seen as a folk hero because he WILLINGLY (at least for now it seems to be willing because that’s what we saw on Smackdown) gave up his mania main event.
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Post by cornettesracket on Feb 5, 2024 6:57:29 GMT -5
So rock, ari Emmanuel, and nick khan made a deal and it sounds like they didn’t tell anyone including HHH.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 5, 2024 7:10:07 GMT -5
So rock, ari Emmanuel, and nick khan made a deal and it sounds like they didn’t tell anyone including HHH. Yeah, it just reads like a big oversight not to let anyone in creative know that this was happening. I don't know if it was to prevent leaks of it getting out, but they should've f***in' told someone so things could be planned better accordingly for the TV show. As things could've played out, Punk could've won the Rumble, but because he was injured, he'd have had to vacate the title shot so that could easily go up for grabs in a Chamber match with little issue. Reigns v Rock would still happen and probably still get a backlash for delaying Rhodes's story (who the hell knows what happens if Punk didn't get injured), but with a lot less backtracking from out-and-out promising a match was happening and then not doing it, and also without having Rhodes in story hamfistedly taking himself out of the match. Communication, use it. You’re a kajillion bajillion dollar company, and there are f***in' Make-A-Wish kids that probably knew more about this than Triple H.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 5, 2024 7:12:55 GMT -5
So the decision was made on January 3rd, and barely anybody knew, including the heads of creative? Triple H and Cody got okey-doked. Really, how the f*** does anybody trust Rock, Brian, and people above Hunter if this shit happens? They did this to the guy whose booking has gotten WWE red hot, and the top face in the company. They can do this to anybody. Bron gets red hot and ready to take the title, sorry, Rock wants it but don't worry he'll face somebody else. They don't correct course, and prove they won't pull this shit then they'll lose quite a few stars.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 5, 2024 7:20:57 GMT -5
I had this weird moment where I felt bad for Hunter before I remembered this bozo probably covered up his old man’s criminal tendencies, so, meh.
Just scumbags out scumbagging each other. Cody is carnie AF but I respect the dude for putting in the work to be the company’s QB.
The more I hear, the more I think Rock is walking out with the belt, they do some sort of weird thing where Rock takes over the Bloodline and Roman goes face to get it back.
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