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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 8, 2024 22:10:48 GMT -5
and this was before Rock sauntered his way into proceedings and we had Seth posting videos on Twitter directed at Cody that came across like a jilted ex asking for another chance. Yeah Rock had no bearing on people not wanting Cody v Seth. Even if he was nowhere to be found most fans still didn't want that match at Mania. Cody has to take Roman's title specifically to finish his story. He said as much in his very first promo in 2022. He can face Seth and challenge for the other title in the future but doing it before he completes his main goal would have made absolutely no sense. Hell if Cody/Seth was the match I straight up was not even going to bother watching Mania live. Nothing against them and they'd have worked hard but it's what they've been building for 2 years. Plus, a Cody title match where he faces a guy he's already beaten three times (one of them coming when he had a torn pec) and who's walking into Mania injured just isn't the match for him. Now a match where he has a chance to avenge a heartbreaking defeat from a year ago and perhaps upending the Bloodline in the process? That's main event worthy.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 8, 2024 22:13:49 GMT -5
This still sounds like the most convoluted and asinine way to get Cody/Roman at Mania. Don't feel like patting WWE on the back doing something right that should have been done right in the first place AND still have too many questions going into Mania. I get there's still time but I have zero desire to see The Rock shoehorn his way onto the show after how he made this mess in the first place. One needs only look at the reaction that The Rock coming out actually got and how long it took him to even speak, to not give WWE a back pat for shit. They had to do something and so much of why I'm not into WWE is because this shit feels like it has to keep happening because they keep having to be dragged kicking and screaming to stuff like this. No one should give WWE a single shred of credit for f***ing this up and lucking into the outcome by pivoting, much like when Bryan did it, they learned absolutely f***ing nothing. Again, happy they did it, it does make Mania season more interesting because now the crowds won't be angrily hijacking shows and calling them f***ing braindead, but they had the easiest straight line road to Mania and drove it off a cliff. Now they're driving what's left of the destroyed car down the straight lined road again, with The Rock hanging off the bumper So yeah zero credit earned for doing what is the bare minimum in my honest opinion of listening to your f***ing crowd lmfao
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 8, 2024 22:14:08 GMT -5
I’m a big fan of Cody but I do an immature chuckle whenever I see the words “Cody’s crybabies” Cody Crybabies, Rock Blockers and the Roman Restholds. The Warriors 2 is shaping up to be an interesting movie.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 8, 2024 22:14:51 GMT -5
One needs only look at the reaction that The Rock coming out actually got and how long it took him to even speak, to not give WWE a back pat for shit. They had to do something and so much of why I'm not into WWE is because this shit feels like it has to keep happening because they keep having to be dragged kicking and screaming to stuff like this. Almost every great moment in the WWE in the last decade or more came from them being dragged kicking and screaming into doing it, or it happening via fluke. Daniel Bryan at Mania 30, the failed Becky Lynch heel turn at Summerslam 2018, Kofimania, and now this. It's amazing how often it happens. They never seem to learn. And like. No other promotion does this. There are a lot of other promotions that make really stupid mistakes, but generally the same mistakes: complacent long-term plans, over-reliance on aging stars, failures to capitalize on hot newbies. But I don't think any promotion so consistently has flukes and circumstance that grip its fans to the point of overshadowing the actual booking and forcing fan revolts.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 8, 2024 22:15:10 GMT -5
I don't care how they did it, I'm just glad they did it. I also dig sticking an asshole Rock next to Roman. As it is, the blank tank top and corporate rock style pants, sort of gave the game away when he came out. I also suspect this will lead to Rock screwing Roman at Mania. Rock’s essentially the Mike Tyson to Cody’s Austin and Roman’s HBK, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Rock turns against Roman at WMXL. Cody is Roman’s Holyfield and Rock is Roman’s Don King.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 8, 2024 22:15:53 GMT -5
Basically WWE getting to Roman/Cody II after this week.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 8, 2024 22:19:35 GMT -5
No one should give WWE a single shred of credit for f***ing this up and lucking into the outcome by pivoting, much like when Bryan did it, they learned absolutely f***ing nothing Bryan was officially a privileged top star once Team Hell No started. I really don’t get this idea that WWE being unsure if they wanted Danielson as a world champion at first somehow means that they hated the guy.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 8, 2024 22:19:50 GMT -5
lmfao what a perfect night Best news all night
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 8, 2024 22:21:05 GMT -5
No one should give WWE a single shred of credit for f***ing this up and lucking into the outcome by pivoting, much like when Bryan did it, they learned absolutely f***ing nothing Bryan was officially a privileged top star once Team Hell No started. I really don’t get this idea that WWE being unsure if they wanted Danielson as a world champion at first somehow means that they hated the guy. They didn't hate Cody either, but they tried to ignore the fans ad ignore what the actual end game should be, in one case Vince, in this case weirdly The Rock just to shake things up I don't think either guy was ever hated, they just weren't trusted for whatever f***ing reason, and the fans told them how stupid they were, both times.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 8, 2024 22:24:01 GMT -5
The last hurdle for Cody to clear in all of this shit is going head to head with Rock in a promo battle. Babyface Rock kind of sucks but if they just let the guy go off as a heel, Cody might have to come back with some really legit lines. He’s gotta go after Black Adam, for one.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 8, 2024 22:25:30 GMT -5
Bryan was officially a privileged top star once Team Hell No started. I really don’t get this idea that WWE being unsure if they wanted Danielson as a world champion at first somehow means that they hated the guy. They didn't hate Cody either, but they tried to ignore the fans ad ignore what the actual end game should be, in one case Vince, in this case weirdly The Rock just to shake things up I don't think either guy was ever hated, they just weren't trusted for whatever f***ing reason, and the fans told them how stupid they were, both times. I think they trust Cody Rhodes and to suggest otherwise is kind of silly. They trusted him enough that they had him win two Rumbles and main event Mania. He’s been pinned once. What seems to have happened here was a unique circumstance and the fans immediately told them to f*** off. The reaction people had was because they’ve trusted him and positioned him as the guy for so long. I can see your point about Bryan.
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Post by khali on Feb 8, 2024 22:26:52 GMT -5
They probably got back on track, but anyone who thinks this is the plan all along is fooling themselves. They’re not even explaining why Cody said he wasn’t facing Roman last week.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 8, 2024 22:27:25 GMT -5
They probably got back on track, but anyone who thinks this is the plan all along is fooling themselves. They’re not even explaining why Cody said he wasn’t facing Roman last week. Sometimes it’s for the best.
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Post by Treklubj on Feb 8, 2024 22:27:46 GMT -5
The whole event was fire. Period. I turn into this shit to be entertained, and that's what I got. From The panel to Bianca all the way through to last shot, this entertained and got me hyped for Mania.
I'm not sure why people are so hellbent that this was a pivot and not the actual plan. For one, the whole Rock getting the match was hinted at (not confirmed) in a silent segment 6 days ago. Secondly, I know at least one person on this board suggested this was the actual storyline right away (Cody reclaims his title match once he realizes that Rock and Roman were conspiring to steal his WM match). It made sense then and it clearly made sense seeing it play out on the stage tonight.
I'm also not sure why so many are shocked that Rock turned heel. He has a history of knowing how to read a crowd and rolling right with it. Real talk, he seems to enjoy playing a heel so I'm not surprised he'd lean into it like he did tonight. I think there is a real possibility a maniacal leader and ousts Roman in brutal fashion, which leads to the absence and then return (and face-turn) of Roman.
I'm glad Cody is in the main event. Tonight's show upped the anticipation for an already highly-anticipated Wrestlemania.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 8, 2024 22:29:03 GMT -5
I still have no idea why they did what they did. If this was the planned direction from the beginning, they could have easily gotten here without any convoluted nonsense. I thought that at first but now I’m not so sure. If some sort of Rock/Roman alliance was planned from the get-go, I don’t know how you get there from the start.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 8, 2024 22:30:22 GMT -5
lmfao what a perfect night Punk abandoned him? Any surprise there? He has no use to punk at the moment ,especially after Hausman completely burned his credibility
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Post by fw91 on Feb 8, 2024 22:33:20 GMT -5
I really don’t know if we’ll ever get the truth on this. Toxicity is still Running wild. Those who are harsher on WWE, are absolutely positive that this is WWE pivoting a f*** up, and those who like WWE are insistent that this was the plan all along and deny any possibility of a pivot. I’m just happy that we have a very interesting build to mania. Feels like appointment tv now, and love it or hate it, Rock has a lot to do with that imo.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 8, 2024 22:33:41 GMT -5
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Post by bearned on Feb 8, 2024 22:34:16 GMT -5
The whole event was fire. Period. I turn into this shit to be entertained, and that's what I got. From The panel to Bianca all the way through to last shot, this entertained and got me hyped for Mania. I'm not sure why people are so hellbent that this was a pivot and not the actual plan. For one, the whole Rock getting the match was hinted at (not confirmed) in a silent segment 6 days ago. Secondly, I know at least one person on this board suggested this was the actual storyline right away (Cody reclaims his title match once he realizes that Rock and Roman were conspiring to steal his WM match). It made sense then and it clearly made sense seeing it play out on the stage tonight. I'm also not sure why so many are shocked that Rock turned heel. He has a history of knowing how to read a crowd and rolling right with it. Real talk, he seems to enjoy playing a heel so I'm not surprised he'd lean into it like he did tonight. I think there is a real possibility a maniacal leader and ousts Roman in brutal fashion, which leads to the absence and then return (and face-turn) of Roman. I'm glad Cody is in the main event. Tonight's show upped the anticipation for an already highly-anticipated Wrestlemania. How do you explain Cody saying he wasn’t going to fight Roman at mania? If he hadn’t said that things may have made a little more sense…Like he would need to be the biggest idiot in the world if he only just realised that he gave up his shot to the Rock because the Rock wanted a main event spot.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 8, 2024 22:36:46 GMT -5
The whole event was fire. Period. I turn into this shit to be entertained, and that's what I got. From The panel to Bianca all the way through to last shot, this entertained and got me hyped for Mania. I'm not sure why people are so hellbent that this was a pivot and not the actual plan. For one, the whole Rock getting the match was hinted at (not confirmed) in a silent segment 6 days ago. Secondly, I know at least one person on this board suggested this was the actual storyline right away (Cody reclaims his title match once he realizes that Rock and Roman were conspiring to steal his WM match). It made sense then and it clearly made sense seeing it play out on the stage tonight. I'm also not sure why so many are shocked that Rock turned heel. He has a history of knowing how to read a crowd and rolling right with it. Real talk, he seems to enjoy playing a heel so I'm not surprised he'd lean into it like he did tonight. I think there is a real possibility a maniacal leader and ousts Roman in brutal fashion, which leads to the absence and then return (and face-turn) of Roman. I'm glad Cody is in the main event. Tonight's show upped the anticipation for an already highly-anticipated Wrestlemania. How do you explain Cody saying he wasn’t going to fight Roman at mania? If he hadn’t said that things may have made a little more sense… Simple. Drop the "I had some time to think about it after Friday, and I consulted the people whose opinion has always mattered to me since day one. The fans. Your signs, support, and 'We Want Cody' chants made me realize that I lost sight of the goal that's now more closer than ever."
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