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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 8, 2024 22:37:47 GMT -5
The way to make it all make sense would have been some sort of hidden camera footage that revealed Rock manipulated Cody. Even then, not great.
They got where they needed to go but it was bumpy. I’m honestly shocked that they went as far as announcing it as a singles match.
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Post by bearned on Feb 8, 2024 22:38:23 GMT -5
How do you explain Cody saying he wasn’t going to fight Roman at mania? If he hadn’t said that things may have made a little more sense… Simple. Drop the "I had some time to think about it after Friday, and I consulted the people whose opinion has always mattered to me since day one. The fans. Your signs, support, and 'We Want Cody' chants made me realize that I lost sight of the goal that's now more closer than ever." But hold up; the fans were very clear on that Raw segment he had with Seth that they didn’t want him fighting Seth. Its not like he wasn’t aware they wanted him to fight Roman.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 8, 2024 22:38:34 GMT -5
I still have no idea why they did what they did. If this was the planned direction from the beginning, they could have easily gotten here without any convoluted nonsense. I thought that at first but now I’m not so sure. If some sort of Rock/Roman alliance was planned from the get-go, I don’t know how you get there from the start. It wasn't planned from the get-go. I don't know how you look at the past week of content and how everyone behaved before tonight and go "Everyone's doing the precise thing they were intended to do in the story".
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 8, 2024 22:39:58 GMT -5
The whole event was fire. Period. I turn into this shit to be entertained, and that's what I got. From The panel to Bianca all the way through to last shot, this entertained and got me hyped for Mania. I'm not sure why people are so hellbent that this was a pivot and not the actual plan. For one, the whole Rock getting the match was hinted at (not confirmed) in a silent segment 6 days ago. Secondly, I know at least one person on this board suggested this was the actual storyline right away (Cody reclaims his title match once he realizes that Rock and Roman were conspiring to steal his WM match). It made sense then and it clearly made sense seeing it play out on the stage tonight. I'm also not sure why so many are shocked that Rock turned heel. He has a history of knowing how to read a crowd and rolling right with it. Real talk, he seems to enjoy playing a heel so I'm not surprised he'd lean into it like he did tonight. I think there is a real possibility a maniacal leader and ousts Roman in brutal fashion, which leads to the absence and then return (and face-turn) of Roman. I'm glad Cody is in the main event. Tonight's show upped the anticipation for an already highly-anticipated Wrestlemania. How do you explain Cody saying he wasn’t going to fight Roman at mania? If he hadn’t said that things may have made a little more sense… Rock got in his ear and tried to gaslight him into thinking it was the best thing for the company and the fans for him to face Roman ("people have wanted this for years and it has to happen now, don't disappoint the fans, Cody") but then Cody saw how the crowds reacted afterwards plus how much of a douche Rock was being and said f*** that, no, the fans want me to face Roman, not you. That's what it should be anyway.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 8, 2024 22:41:29 GMT -5
I thought that at first but now I’m not so sure. If some sort of Rock/Roman alliance was planned from the get-go, I don’t know how you get there from the start. It wasn't planned from the get-go. I don't know how you look at the past week of content and how everyone behaved before tonight and go "Everyone's doing the precise thing they were intended to do in the story". There’s no earthly way that this was the original plan. That Friday night segment was one of the worst I’ve seen in 30 years of watching this stuff. They needed a dramatic retcon and they did it. Now they need to stick the landing. Cody’s gotta beat the dude or it’s all for nothing.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Feb 8, 2024 22:41:48 GMT -5
I kinda want Cody to shoot on Rock's "wrestling royalty" family by pointing out that Rocky Johnson was a rapist and once tried to get a 12 year old girl to play strip poker with him...
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Post by fw91 on Feb 8, 2024 22:43:34 GMT -5
I thought that at first but now I’m not so sure. If some sort of Rock/Roman alliance was planned from the get-go, I don’t know how you get there from the start. It wasn't planned from the get-go. I don't know how you look at the past week of content and how everyone behaved before tonight and go "Everyone's doing the precise thing they were intended to do in the story". When was this conference booked? A spur of the moment decision to hold a big event in an arena in days doesn’t seem like something that would happen unless they had something planned. Like they wanted to have an element of Cody being manipulated by The Rock and for him to catch on. Perhaps they wanted more than “Cody goes for Roman again.” I’m not saying my theory is right, but I really don’t think we can say 100 percent for sure one way or the other.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 8, 2024 22:43:55 GMT -5
Obviously just objectively this is what the story is now, but if they really meant to do this they wouldn't have hotshotted the intrigue in the span of six days. It's insane. Any intentionally paced story would have planted seeds, sown some doubt, shown Rock and Cody interacting, had some hints Rock was not above board in what he was trying to get Cody to do, they'd actually bother to pace things out and have these developments take place on their live network television show instead of on Youtube. They're going to run the story now to the best of their abilities and change things around, but they're not so bad at telling stories that the only thing they had was an abrupt bit of nonsense to end Smackdown, a Drew promo on Raw, and then the stuff tonight where they made Seth look like garbage.
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Post by khali on Feb 8, 2024 22:44:45 GMT -5
I am certain that Rock never envisioned talking about the Somoan family tree and their deep bond while the crowd chants WHAT.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 8, 2024 22:44:54 GMT -5
It wasn't planned from the get-go. I don't know how you look at the past week of content and how everyone behaved before tonight and go "Everyone's doing the precise thing they were intended to do in the story". When was this conference booked? A spur of the moment decision to hold a big event in an arena in days doesn’t seem like something that would happen unless they had something planned. Like they wanted to have an element of Cody being manipulated by The Rock and for him to catch on. Perhaps they wanted more than “Cody goes for Roman again.” I’m not saying I’m right, but I really don’t think we can say 100 percent for sure one way or the other. I am sure they had this press conference booked for some time and I’m reasonably sure that on Friday afternoon the plan was to have Rock show that periodic table and have a dramatic staredown with Roman sans Cody.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 8, 2024 22:46:08 GMT -5
It wasn't planned from the get-go. I don't know how you look at the past week of content and how everyone behaved before tonight and go "Everyone's doing the precise thing they were intended to do in the story". When was this conference booked? A spur of the moment decision to hold a big event in an arena in days doesn’t seem like something that would happen unless they had something planned. Like they wanted to have an element of Cody being manipulated by The Rock and for him to catch on. Perhaps they wanted more than “Cody goes for Roman again.” I’m not saying I’m right, but I really don’t think we can say 100 percent for sure one way or the other. This press event didn't happen to build up Cody Rhodes, this press event happened because sports media is all over one location for the Superbowl and WWE wants to fight for some headlines; there's a reason they specifically announced it after The Rock and used him as the selling point for it. It was booked weeks in advance, minimum. There was no element of Cody being manipulated. They showed nothing. THey conveyed nothing. Tonight, Cody came out and said "nuh-uh" and Rock got mad. We can say 100%. We can.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 8, 2024 22:46:28 GMT -5
Obviously just objectively this is what the story is now, but if they really meant to do this they wouldn't have hotshotted the intrigue in the span of six days. It's insane. Any intentionally paced story would have planted seeds, sown some doubt, shown Rock and Cody interacting, had some hints Rock was not above board in what he was trying to get Cody to do, they'd actually bother to pace things out and have these developments take place on their live network television show instead of on Youtube. They're going to run the story now to the best of their abilities and change things around, but they're not so bad at telling stories that the only thing they had was an abrupt bit of nonsense to end Smackdown, a Drew promo on Raw, and then the stuff tonight where they made Seth look like garbage. Elimination Chamber plays a role too. Perhaps they need to set up some sort of big main event bridge match involving Roman/Cody/Rock/Seth soon. Because there really isn’t much of a card being formed yet.
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Post by spagett on Feb 8, 2024 22:46:34 GMT -5
I kinda want Cody to shoot on Rock's "wrestling royalty" family by pointing out that Rocky Johnson was a rapist and once tried to get a 12 year old girl to play strip poker with him... That would be an absolutely horrendous thing to do. Why on earth would you want to see that happen?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 8, 2024 22:49:34 GMT -5
When was this conference booked? A spur of the moment decision to hold a big event in an arena in days doesn’t seem like something that would happen unless they had something planned. Like they wanted to have an element of Cody being manipulated by The Rock and for him to catch on. Perhaps they wanted more than “Cody goes for Roman again.” I’m not saying I’m right, but I really don’t think we can say 100 percent for sure one way or the other. I am sure they had this press conference booked for some time and I’m reasonably sure that on Friday afternoon the plan was to have Rock show that periodic table and have a dramatic staredown with Roman sans Cody. I totally understand how it sounds just the same as being so sure that this was all planned but this felt like the obvious explanation for it. They'd totally show that whole graphic to advertise a big showdown between Roman/Rock. It would've been a face move too, it only gains the novel gazing f***ing hilarity of it all now that they decided to flip things around.
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 8, 2024 22:50:26 GMT -5
Cody didn't call The Rock a Juiced Up Bitch and tell him to run back to Hollywood with his tail between his legs, but glad that we are getting Cody vs Roman. Now WWE has to stick the landing.
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Post by Schizo on Feb 8, 2024 22:54:48 GMT -5
I kinda want Cody to shoot on Rock's "wrestling royalty" family by pointing out that Rocky Johnson was a rapist and once tried to get a 12 year old girl to play strip poker with him... That would be an absolutely horrendous thing to do. Why on earth would you want to see that happen? Right? Like that will completely derail this angle completely and with the whole investigation still ongoing, that would be a absolute stupid idea to even bring up
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Feb 8, 2024 23:00:49 GMT -5
It actually was in the plan all along because in Doom (2005), Sarge (Dwayne Johnson) orders the squad to sanitize the entire facility. When Kid informs Sarge that he found, but refuses to kill, a group of survivors, Sarge executes Kid for insubordination, leading to a standoff with an armed Pinky. The group is suddenly attacked by creatures who kill Duke and drag Sarge and Pinky away. Reaper is wounded by a ricocheting bullet. To prevent him from bleeding to death, Sam injects her brother with the C24 serum.
Reaper regains consciousness and finds his wounds have healed and that Sam has gone missing. Using his new C24 superhuman abilities, he fights his way through the facility, even battling a mutated and monstrous Pinky before finding an unconscious Sam with Sarge, who has become infected and has killed the group of survivors Kid had previously found. Reaper and Sarge battle, both of them enhanced with superhuman powers. Reaper is able to gain the upper hand and throws Sarge through the Ark back to Mars along with a grenade, which destroys Sarge and the Mars facility. Reaper then carries his unconscious sister into the elevator and rides back up to the ground level in Nevada.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 8, 2024 23:05:31 GMT -5
It actually was in the plan all along because in Doom (2005), Sarge (Dwayne Johnson) orders the squad to sanitize the entire facility. When Kid informs Sarge that he found, but refuses to kill, a group of survivors, Sarge executes Kid for insubordination, leading to a standoff with an armed Pinky. The group is suddenly attacked by creatures who kill Duke and drag Sarge and Pinky away. Reaper is wounded by a ricocheting bullet. To prevent him from bleeding to death, Sam injects her brother with the C24 serum. Reaper regains consciousness and finds his wounds have healed and that Sam has gone missing. Using his new C24 superhuman abilities, he fights his way through the facility, even battling a mutated and monstrous Pinky before finding an unconscious Sam with Sarge, who has become infected and has killed the group of survivors Kid had previously found. Reaper and Sarge battle, both of them enhanced with superhuman powers. Reaper is able to gain the upper hand and throws Sarge through the Ark back to Mars along with a grenade, which destroys Sarge and the Mars facility. Reaper then carries his unconscious sister into the elevator and rides back up to the ground level in Nevada. I'm not gonna fact check you, but I am gonna ask you on your honor, is any of this true?
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Post by Treklubj on Feb 8, 2024 23:06:57 GMT -5
The whole event was fire. Period. I turn into this shit to be entertained, and that's what I got. From The panel to Bianca all the way through to last shot, this entertained and got me hyped for Mania. I'm not sure why people are so hellbent that this was a pivot and not the actual plan. For one, the whole Rock getting the match was hinted at (not confirmed) in a silent segment 6 days ago. Secondly, I know at least one person on this board suggested this was the actual storyline right away (Cody reclaims his title match once he realizes that Rock and Roman were conspiring to steal his WM match). It made sense then and it clearly made sense seeing it play out on the stage tonight. I'm also not sure why so many are shocked that Rock turned heel. He has a history of knowing how to read a crowd and rolling right with it. Real talk, he seems to enjoy playing a heel so I'm not surprised he'd lean into it like he did tonight. I think there is a real possibility a maniacal leader and ousts Roman in brutal fashion, which leads to the absence and then return (and face-turn) of Roman. I'm glad Cody is in the main event. Tonight's show upped the anticipation for an already highly-anticipated Wrestlemania. How do you explain Cody saying he wasn’t going to fight Roman at mania? If he hadn’t said that things may have made a little more sense…Like he would need to be the biggest idiot in the world if he only just realised that he gave up his shot to the Rock because the Rock wanted a main event spot. A couple people have already responded, but I'll echo. Cody was going to step aside because Rock got to him with some Roman is disgracing my family shit and I want to shut him down and redeem the name. Tonight he realized that Rock only wanted the match to basically turn Mania into a Bloodline circle jerk and give even more power to the faction.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 8, 2024 23:07:17 GMT -5
They didn't hate Cody either, but they tried to ignore the fans ad ignore what the actual end game should be, in one case Vince, in this case weirdly The Rock just to shake things up I don't think either guy was ever hated, they just weren't trusted for whatever f***ing reason, and the fans told them how stupid they were, both times. I think they trust Cody Rhodes and to suggest otherwise is kind of silly. They trusted him enough that they had him win two Rumbles and main event Mania. He’s been pinned once. What seems to have happened here was a unique circumstance and the fans immediately told them to f*** off. The reaction people had was because they’ve trusted him and positioned him as the guy for so long. I can see your point about Bryan. More specific, THE ROCK, did not trust Cody Rhodes, WWE clearly did until The Rock tried to butt his huge ass head in
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