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Post by lucaslawless on Apr 4, 2023 5:25:04 GMT -5
Cody's about to get his AEW heat back. WWE had a chance and they blew it. All the attraction for Rhodes has now depleted.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 4, 2023 5:40:23 GMT -5
Okay so I'm gonna get very writer-ey here and I'm sorry for that, but; It's important to start from the fact that "long-term storytelling" is something that literally only gets said in wrestling. It's not a phrase you commonly see in any other medium or when writers discuss what they have going on, because it's kind of presumed that if you're writing a 12 page book series or eight seasons of TV that you're doing that stuff. It's just 'storytelling'. Wrestling is the only place where we need to distinguish, because so many stories can be ephemeral and it's very common for wrestlers and characters to not have really defined, intentional arcs so much as they just go from one feud to another and there's often no set in stone idea of when someone is going to turn or why that informs what they're doing. Wrestling can be sloppy and it is often written in the very short term. Where WWE's problems go isn't that they can't be trusted or that they have to go when the iron is hot, it's that they don't tell long-term stories, they just tell long stories. Roman's title run doesn't feel like the collective weight of each victory and opponent is necessarily moving somewhere. The Sami storyline took some months and that was well received, but is there a sense that it's going to play into the eventual end for Roman? Or are they going to be split from one another on-screen, Sami and KO go do tag team stuff, and it never meaningfully plays a role in whoever between Cody and Brock face Roman at Summerslam or whenever? WWE tends to tell its stories one at a time, and continuity is a very rare thing that just doesn't come up because the people in charge of creative are actually not that creative and not all that good at telling stories. WWE wouldn't have this baggage if people actually thought it was going to pay off. The issue inherent here is that nobody thinks it will because WWE refuses to tell stories that way. WWE does not tell long-term stories, they tell long stories, by penciling in shit a year in advance with a bunch of fart noises and shrugs when it comes to what they'll do in the year in between to get things there. WWE's long stories often don't have a proper, satisfying payoff because they fail to actually write them to and struggle to have good, well built endings that bring together those respective pieces into something that gives the audience that cathartic sense that the journey was worth it and built up properly to the destination. Like, I personally can bash on the Hangman / Elite story all day - think it took way too damn long to get to its point with basically nothing stopping them from just getting it over with at Double or Nothing except Kenny having the belt for six months apparently wasn't long enough, it did everything it could to set in stone the Dark Order being completely useless clinger-ons which they still are to this day, Kenny's matches kept having the same finish over and over, the Bucks being tag champions was kind of this giant central part of most of it but ultimately their reign just kind of ended in the middle of it without any actual connective tissue to where it ultimately went - but, like... There was an intentional build to the broad strokes of it. Hangman was having serious confidence issues, he and Kenny won the tag titles, Hangman lost them the belts in large part due to his continued doubt in himself, Kenny abandoned him afterward, the two fought for a title shot, Kenny won, Hangman was number one contender for a long time and got screwed over by Brian Cage which knocked him back down for awhile, he got back up and got things together to go after Kenny but it still wasn't enough, he was injured by them afterward, he came back, he faced things head on rather than allowing his emotions to overwhelm him yet again, he won so decisively that ultimately the Bucks could only concede defeat and let him finish Kenny off. All of the major beats of the storyline had a purpose and ultimately logically followed through on each other point to point. The story of this has been Roman is insecure in his ability to get the job done anymore and abuses his family into helping him, then they do, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions Heyman's loyalty, then Heyman helps him beat Brock, then he questions Heyman's loyalty, then Heyman helps him beat Brock, then he questions Heyman's loyalty, then Heyman helps him beat Brock, then he becomes friends with Sami Zayn for awhile, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then Sami decides enough of that and saves KO from beating murdered, then Roman kills him, then Roman beats up Sami, then he questions the Usos' loyalty, then they help him, then he questions the Usos' loyalty, then they help him, then he runs Cody down and says his dad never loved him, then Sami and KO take the Usos out, then the Usos help him win anyway. There is no narrative. It's the same tired, "Can Roman trust the Bloodline? Oh wait yes he can," over and over and over and over and over with no f***ing end in sight. It's not building to anything. There is no story here, it's a card where both sides tell you to flip it over. It's exhausting just to follow from a distance and sounds miserable to watch over and over. This isn't storytelling or character progression, it's just one singular story beat banged on over and over with no real purpose other than to give feuds a reason beyond 'for the title I guess'. It's the very definition of short term storytelling because his reign has with it a very firm status quo after every feud with the only difference being that sometimes there's a new member here. I have to imagine the reason people liked the Sami stuff is because it forced things to progress differently, and the outcome of Sami stepping in save KO just from Extra Murder offered a break from the same outcome we kept seeing over and over. It meant nothing in the end for Roman's own run, but it was a different outcome to a story. That's nice. It's nice when stories do that. If you can tell a good story, people will be patient. But if a book ahd a perfect ending point that would wrap up everything and create a perfectly good experience, but then someone slips at the wrong second and they pad out another 300 pages of book where nothing really changes in the stakes or characters just to make the book longer, you'd call that a shitty book. You'd rip that book for wasting your time with a dumb and pointless non-twist, and you wouldn't have people say you were 'overreacting' for not liking the book or that you 'didn't get the ending you wanted' to invalidate your criticism of how useless those last 300 pages were. |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Apr 4, 2023 5:43:41 GMT -5
Poor Cody went from undesirable to actually considerably deniable.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 4, 2023 5:57:52 GMT -5
Like, I personally can bash on the Hangman / Elite story all day - think it took way too damn long to get to its point with basically nothing stopping them from just getting it over with at Double or Nothing except Kenny having the belt for six months apparently wasn't long enough, it did everything it could to set in stone the Dark Order being completely useless clinger-ons which they still are to this day, Kenny's matches kept having the same finish over and over, the Bucks being tag champions was kind of this giant central part of most of it but ultimately their reign just kind of ended in the middle of it without any actual connective tissue to where it ultimately went - but, like... There was an intentional build to the broad strokes of it. Hangman was having serious confidence issues, he and Kenny won the tag titles, Hangman lost them the belts in large part due to his continued doubt in himself, Kenny abandoned him afterward, the two fought for a title shot, Kenny won, Hangman was number one contender for a long time and got screwed over by Brian Cage which knocked him back down for awhile, he got back up and got things together to go after Kenny but it still wasn't enough, he was injured by them afterward, he came back, he faced things head on rather than allowing his emotions to overwhelm him yet again, he won so decisively that ultimately the Bucks could only concede defeat and let him finish Kenny off. All of the major beats of the storyline had a purpose and ultimately logically followed through on each other point to point. The story of this has been Roman is insecure in his ability to get the job done anymore and abuses his family into helping him, then they do, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions their loyalty, then they help him, then he questions Heyman's loyalty, then Heyman helps him beat Brock, then he questions Heyman's loyalty, then Heyman helps him beat Brock, then he questions Heyman's loyalty, then Heyman helps him beat Brock, then he becomes friends with Sami Zayn for awhile, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then he questions Sami's loyalty, then Sami helps him beat KO, then Sami decides enough of that and saves KO from beating murdered, then Roman kills him, then Roman beats up Sami, then he questions the Usos' loyalty, then they help him, then he questions the Usos' loyalty, then they help him, then he runs Cody down and says his dad never loved him, then Sami and KO take the Usos out, then the Usos help him win anyway. There is no narrative. It's the same tired, "Can Roman trust the Bloodline? Oh wait yes he can," over and over and over and over and over with no f***ing end in sight. It's not building to anything. There is no story here, it's a card where both sides tell you to flip it over. It's exhausting just to follow from a distance and sounds miserable to watch over and over. This isn't storytelling or character progression, it's just one singular story beat banged on over and over with no real purpose other than to give feuds a reason beyond 'for the title I guess'. It's the very definition of short term storytelling because his reign has with it a very firm status quo after every feud with the only difference being that sometimes there's a new member here. I have to imagine the reason people liked the Sami stuff is because it forced things to progress differently, and the outcome of Sami stepping in save KO just from Extra Murder offered a break from the same outcome we kept seeing over and over. It meant nothing in the end for Roman's own run, but it was a different outcome to a story. That's nice. It's nice when stories do that. If you can tell a good story, people will be patient. But if a book ahd a perfect ending point that would wrap up everything and create a perfectly good experience, but then someone slips at the wrong second and they pad out another 300 pages of book where nothing really changes in the stakes or characters just to make the book longer, you'd call that a shitty book. You'd rip that book for wasting your time with a dumb and pointless non-twist, and you wouldn't have people say you were 'overreacting' for not liking the book or that you 'didn't get the ending you wanted' to invalidate your criticism of how useless those last 300 pages were. I will say, also from an outsider "not watching, can't really comment on the quality" perspective, that it did jump out to me how many people were making posts around the wrestling internet about how deep and connected and longform the whole Bloodline angle is as of a couple of months ago, yet (again, I emphasize, from my non-viewing and thus not fully qualified to comment point of view, I realize) it did kind of feel like the story was just "Roman questions someone's loyalty, that person remains loyal." Agreed that Sami being the one to finally turn against Roman at least added a wrinkle, but as of now it seems that wrinkle will accomplish nothing in the grander scheme of the story of Roman's title run. |
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 4, 2023 6:02:29 GMT -5
Americaaaaaan biiiiiitch
He’s just a bitch ass man
Probably wishing he’d get canned
He’s just a bitch as maaaaaan
Getting screwed by the man
Hey he’s the Americaaaaan biiiitch!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 4, 2023 6:08:02 GMT -5
It's exhausting just to follow from a distance and sounds miserable to watch over and over. This isn't storytelling or character progression, it's just one singular story beat banged on over and over with no real purpose other than to give feuds a reason beyond 'for the title I guess'. It's the very definition of short term storytelling because his reign has with it a very firm status quo after every feud with the only difference being that sometimes there's a new member here. I have to imagine the reason people liked the Sami stuff is because it forced things to progress differently, and the outcome of Sami stepping in save KO just from Extra Murder offered a break from the same outcome we kept seeing over and over. It meant nothing in the end for Roman's own run, but it was a different outcome to a story. That's nice. It's nice when stories do that. If you can tell a good story, people will be patient. But if a book ahd a perfect ending point that would wrap up everything and create a perfectly good experience, but then someone slips at the wrong second and they pad out another 300 pages of book where nothing really changes in the stakes or characters just to make the book longer, you'd call that a shitty book. You'd rip that book for wasting your time with a dumb and pointless non-twist, and you wouldn't have people say you were 'overreacting' for not liking the book or that you 'didn't get the ending you wanted' to invalidate your criticism of how useless those last 300 pages were. I will say, also from an outsider "not watching, can't really comment on the quality" perspective, that it did jump out to me how many people were making posts around the wrestling internet about how deep and connected and longform the whole Bloodline angle is as of a couple of months ago, yet (again, I emphasize, from my non-viewing and thus not fully qualified to comment point of view, I realize) it did kind of feel like the story was just "Roman questions someone's loyalty, that person remains loyal." Agreed that Sami being the one to finally turn against Roman at least added a wrinkle, but as of now it seems that wrinkle will accomplish nothing in the grander scheme of the story of Roman's title run. Sami offering a different story only for the outcome to not matter is where narratively the idea falls apart, in my eyes. If this ended with Sami, then the idea of Roman questioning loyalty would offer an actual purpose. Repeatedly reinforcing that his power over people is what keeps him in control, but when he finally goes too far and pushes away someoen who is genuinely loyal to him, it becomes his undoing and unravels the group. That would be real shit. That would finally pay off the paranoia and wrap this up in something thematic. Roman's own insecurities and control freak nature are his downfall--something something cheap dig at Vince here. Going with Cody obviously changes that up, but there's still ways you could maybe have KO and Sami involved just to fight off the interference, to keep the Usos away or to do in any way something. Build up to the idea that Roman set his own failure up when he betrayed Sami. We didn't get that. It's the difference between telling a story and just writing something down. Sami's tale doesn't end up negatively impacting Roman in the end. It'd be an amateurish thing to write down and the main intention behind a second draft would be to resolve these ideas and connect them because whoever read your first draft saw those bits and went 'Hey these kind of don't work out but they'd connect perfectly if you tied them together'. Roman's flaws mean ntohing and go nowhere. THat's the exact opposite of long-term storytelling. That's a sitcom that reverts back every week to the exact same status quo and refuses to let its characters change. It's Seinfeld. This shit is just Angry Seinfeld. |
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Post by dreamghost on Apr 4, 2023 6:45:19 GMT -5
You cant see the Polka dots but trust me they are there.
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Post by Goldash #BLM on Apr 4, 2023 6:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Apr 4, 2023 6:57:35 GMT -5
What's grinding my gears, and makes me think this was totally a Vince call was simply the fact that Cody represented a template for future AEW people to jump ship. He's the first to do so, and there won't be another first.
He's the one that people who might think the grass might be greener are watching
Like, HHH has his issues, but when it comes to common sense he's not really a dumb person. He "gets" wrestling.
I think he would recognize how important that was, a solid investment into the future, and would want to make the best example possible with Cody.
Vince on the other hand is just.....Vince. So he wouldn't see the value in that part of it, and instead would look at something as basic as "1000 Days" and think that was the important thing.
"Me like big number. Big number like money. Make money number big. Roman do."
It's something a toddler would think.
I just don't see HHH screwing that up for the sake of Roman's Misery Booking. That's Vince's M.O.
He gets off on making fans unhappy. He's had this vendetta in the chamber for months. It's been over half a year in the making.
I feel like Monday Night Raw was a statement. Loud and clear. An incompetent statement, but he won't see it that way.
HHH had to have been courting Switchblade up until recently, he had to have known the Elite would at least talk to WWE when their contracts were up.
How Cody is treated is a good measure for them on how they'd be treated.
f***, Sting didn't come to WWE because of what he saw back in the day.
If this wasn't a one night thing, and Vince is back full time, I really hope Jay White hadn't put pen to paper yet.
If Cody ascended to Bitchhalla, then Bitchhalla is what everyone else from any other company is going to expect for themselves.
It's why it's bothered me people were yelling at HHH, it's like no...it's clearly not him on this one.
HHH can be problematic, but this was insultingly dumb with zero vision.
Only one man does that better than anyone.
Hell I think he's been shadow booking shit for awhile now.
And I hate to speculate, but maybe Wyatt left because of this very reason. He's like "f*** it, I'm not dealing with this shit again".
But back to Cody, yeah, this is Vince 101 in how to kill a crowd and kill a babyface in 24 hours. It's him Austin. It was him all along.
He's the master of this shit.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2023 7:09:31 GMT -5
What I keep finding myself wondering about is, like... Was this their plan to sell Ford Field? Redo the Reigns / Lesnar kick-the-can-down-the-road-four-months thing everyone hated that benefited no one because they couldn't think of a better main event for the show than to just do the Mania main event?
Because even if that was the idea, I feel like a rematch with Roman challenging would've been way more likely to sell it than, "We're doing it again, better hope we don't choose to deliberately f*** it up again!"
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 4, 2023 7:13:16 GMT -5
I think it's always a mistake to assume you know how a wrestler feels about their booking or their position on the card. They are experiencing all of this in a completely different way to what we are.
But I'd guess that 99.999% of wrestlers wouldn't be dismissive of winning the Royal Rumble, headling WrestleMania, being one of the faces of WWE and all the money that comes along with doing so.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 4, 2023 7:15:44 GMT -5
Honestly, I was deeply, deeply upset about Sunday night for personal reasons that I detailed a bit in the Mania 39 thread, but I think hearing how last night went has me thinking differently.
Yes, maybe Cody is in Bitchhalla. But the reality is that the dude's probably next up to hold the title and he's probably going to beat Brock. Yes, I know nothing is guaranteed anymore, but that's just my true gut feeling when I take an honest assessment of what's going on.
I'm more concerned for folks like Gargano, Bronson, Dexter Lumis, Candice, Dakota, Iyo, Karrion Kross and others because there's a chance those folks just straight up lose their jobs.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 4, 2023 7:22:24 GMT -5
What I keep finding myself wondering about is, like... Was this their plan to sell Ford Field? Redo the Reigns / Lesnar kick-the-can-down-the-road-four-months thing everyone hated that benefited no one because they couldn't think of a better main event for the show than to just do the Mania main event? Because even if that was the idea, I feel like a rematch with Roman challenging would've been way more likely to sell it than, "We're doing it again, better hope we don't choose to deliberately f*** it up again!" Once again to use a movie analogy, Sunday night could have been Star Wars. Then at SummerSlam, maybe Roman actually wins the thing back. Then next year they finish the trilogy with Cody finally beating the dude once and for all. Everything just seems weird. If this is somehow, someway, leading back to Brock/Roman at Ford Field, I don't think they're going to get the response they expect. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2023 7:26:41 GMT -5
I think it's always a mistake to assume you know how a wrestler feels about their booking or their position on the card. They are experiencing all of this in a completely different way to what we are. But I'd guess that 99.999% of wrestlers wouldn't be dismissive of winning the Royal Rumble, headling WrestleMania, being one of the faces of WWE and all the money that comes along with doing so. I will grant that none of us can know for sure, but based on his history and what we do have it does seem like Cody is someone who would take it personally. He's someone who very obviously takes a lot of pride in his work, who's talked before about how previous slights made him consider quitting long before he did (hell, the Big Show feud got him to that point and that was nowhere remotely close to as egregious in making him look bad as this was since it actually fit into the story, plus that happened at a point in time when it mostly likely would have been the end of him being a big name for the rest of his career if he had because the conditions were not at all there for the breakout he eventually managed), and who seems to mostly pin leaving AEW on creative differences, plus he looked visibly distraught on the preshow during the segment with him and Brandi. Plus he takes his relationship with his dad so seriously he got the dude's nickname tattooed on his chest and just had a story where he was told, "Your dad thought you were a failure and loved Roman Reigns more," and ultimately came up short and had to talk up how awesome the guy who just beat him is in a way that effectively validated the claim, which I'm sure probably served to quite irritate him just for how wildly disrespectful that is to his and Dusty's relationship. And to boot they had the whole thing happen in front of, and incorporate, a kid he's super close with in light of the kid's dad's death, so that's just kind of extra kick in the balls to real life issues Cody's dealt with entirely to put over someone else who very f***ing much does not need any of that. You can't know for sure, and maybe none of it's a tipping point, but just based on his history it does at least feel pretty likely that he's at the very least bothered by it on some level, especially with the surrounding uncertainty of Vince being back on top of it. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 4, 2023 7:36:50 GMT -5
It’s fascinating how some have latched to “Vince hates him” as the reason why all this has happened when he was the one in the chair from when Rhodes returned, and had him go undefeated up to when Rhodes’s pectoral went all kablammo before Hell In A Cell, and he even booked him to win THAT match. Hell, the chat from some before the Rumble was “Is Triple H even gonna book him as strong as Vince did?” *points to broken throne*.
Which leaves the current situation as one of two plausible scenarios.
1. This whole thing was a complete long con to put him in his place for starting AEW
Or…
2. It isn’t personal and this is them trying to do a struggle chase, poorly reading the room in doing so
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2023 7:45:57 GMT -5
It’s fascinating how some have latched to “Vince hates him” as the reason why all this has happened when he was the one in the chair from when Rhodes returned, and had him go undefeated up to when Rhodes’s pectoral went all kablammo, and he even booked him to win THAT match. Hell, the chat from some before the Rumble was “Is Triple H even gonna book him as strong as Vince did?” *points to broken throne*. Which leaves the current situation as one of two plausible scenarios. 1. This whole thing was a complete long con to put him in his place for starting AEW Or… 2. It isn’t personal and this them trying to do a struggle chase, poorly reading the room in doing so Personally I'm mostly on the side of #3, they do at least see some kind of value in him but he only got the super prominent position he did because Rock and Austin didn't return their calls, and so long as they don't absolutely no one but Roman is allowed to be in the main event picture. I think this whole thing was at least coming from some kind of place of trying to protect him or something, it's just that they're so wildly goddamn incompetent that they've managed to make him look completely horrible instead. |
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Post by poodoojenkins on Apr 4, 2023 7:49:08 GMT -5
It’s fascinating how some have latched to “Vince hates him” as the reason why all this has happened when he was the one in the chair from when Rhodes returned, and had him go undefeated up to when Rhodes’s pectoral went all kablammo before Hell In A Cell, and he even booked him to win THAT match. Hell, the chat from some before the Rumble was “Is Triple H even gonna book him as strong as Vince did?” *points to broken throne*. Which leaves the current situation as one of two plausible scenarios. 1. This whole thing was a complete long con to put him in his place for starting AEW Or… 2. It isn’t personal and this is them trying to do a struggle chase, poorly reading the room in doing so I like how many times McMahon has been pretty to the point of costing himself money, but somehow people still act like he'd never do something like that. |
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 4, 2023 7:57:50 GMT -5
I think it's always a mistake to assume you know how a wrestler feels about their booking or their position on the card. They are experiencing all of this in a completely different way to what we are. But I'd guess that 99.999% of wrestlers wouldn't be dismissive of winning the Royal Rumble, headling WrestleMania, being one of the faces of WWE and all the money that comes along with doing so. I will grant that none of us can know for sure, but based on his history and what we do have it does seem like Cody is someone who would take it personally. He's someone who very obviously takes a lot of pride in his work, who's talked before about how previous slights made him consider quitting long before he did (hell, the Big Show feud got him to that point and that was nowhere remotely close to as egregious in making him look bad as this was since it actually fit into the story, plus that happened at a point in time when it mostly likely would have been the end of him being a big name for the rest of his career if he had because the conditions were not at all there for the breakout he eventually managed), and who seems to mostly pin leaving AEW on creative differences, plus he looked visibly distraught on the preshow during the segment with him and Brandi. Plus he takes his relationship with his dad so seriously he got the dude's nickname tattooed on his chest and just had a story where he was told, "Your dad thought you were a failure and loved Roman Reigns more," and ultimately came up short and had to talk up how awesome the guy who just beat him is in a way that effectively validated the claim, which I'm sure probably served to quite irritate him just for how wildly disrespectful that is to his and Dusty's relationship. And to boot they had the whole thing happen in front of, and incorporate, a kid he's super close with in light of the kid's dad's death, so that's just kind of extra kick in the balls to real life issues Cody's dealt with entirely to put over someone else who very f***ing much does not need any of that. You can't know for sure, and maybe none of it's a tipping point, but just based on his history it does at least feel pretty likely that he's at the very least bothered by it on some level, especially with the surrounding uncertainty of Vince being back on top of it. A lot of it depends on things we have no idea of - what Cody was promised upon signing, his relationships with these people and where this is all heading. In a years time I believe Cody will have won a world title and main evented several PPV's. Others seem to think he'll be losing in the Andre. Everything about Cody's presentation since returning (under Vince and HHH) says they see him as a main event star. If that's correct, no single result is going to alter the trejectory of his career. How he gets there is just details. If they don't see that in him, even beating Roman would've been a nice but otherwise meaningless moment (a la KofiMania). |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 4, 2023 8:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 4, 2023 8:01:39 GMT -5
It’s fascinating how some have latched to “Vince hates him” as the reason why all this has happened when he was the one in the chair from when Rhodes returned, and had him go undefeated up to when Rhodes’s pectoral went all kablammo before Hell In A Cell, and he even booked him to win THAT match. Hell, the chat from some before the Rumble was “Is Triple H even gonna book him as strong as Vince did?” *points to broken throne*. Which leaves the current situation as one of two plausible scenarios. 1. This whole thing was a complete long con to put him in his place for starting AEW Or… 2. It isn’t personal and this is them trying to do a struggle chase, poorly reading the room in doing so I *honestly* think it's the latter, with Cody having to either beat Brock or win MITB (and calling his shot) to get the title match at SS. Cody has been consistently booked strong as hell through both regimes (Mania loss aside). People have been dying for the chance to go "SEE! THEY DO HATE CODY!" and Vince, like an ass, gave them that chance |
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