The Cody Rhodes Story Thread (IT'S OVER)

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 30, 2024 1:02:07 GMT -5 Fade said:

Jan 30, 2024 0:55:06 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

I don't mean to speak for whomever you're arguing with, but, the belt Seth holds is the bronze medal. It just is. It's the "here's your pizza party!!!" for making us $4 billion dollars last year.

Bless you, you're the fan WWE wants. You think what Seth holds is worth something, but it's not.

That’s a dick move, dude. Objectively, yeah, I’d agree, Seth’s title is the “bronze medal”. The secondary belt. That said, I’ve personally enjoyed the he’ll out of his reign. I think he’s brought it value. You could argue a huge portion of the audience does too from how over the Guy’s remained. It’s like if you asked who the top champion of the wrestling world is. Objectively? People would probably say Roman but I guarandamntee you a lot would say the AEW world title holds more merit. Or the IWGP, etc.

I’d love to see some of yall in charge and how you’d promote the title “ay, truth is this titles buttcheeks, so go out there and say it is”. In what world doesn’t it make sense for the company to try and bolster the “secondary title”? Isn’t small examples like that, as well as matches and the reign itself, where the title could eventually build importance?

I wouldn't have Seth's belt. Not as a world champion, especially with a guy running around as champion of the damn universe. Which yeah, is a marketing term, he's champion of the WWE Universe. Which is the same thing as being champion of the WWE, which Roman also is.

I get that world titles are kind of a fluid thing, but Triple H walked out on TV and basically said "Roman isn't losing anytime soon, so we need another champion".

That, above anything, makes it lame and a bronze medal. Seth can rattle off 6 5 star matches in a row, he still holds the bronze medal.

[Schizo]

Jan 30, 2024 0:55:06 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Jan 30, 2024 0:51:21 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Chill dude

Why would they not talk as if the Raw Title is equal to the Roman’s title? Yeah, Thd Undisputed Title is the one with the history, we all know that. But if Kayfabe, the World Title is the top belt on Raw and the Undisputed Title is the top belt on SmackDown, in that regard they are equal. Iam just trying to rap my head around why it angers you so much that they’re building up the World Title as something important and worth fighting for like THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO?!?

As for Cody, we all know he’s going after Roman, that’s a given, this whole angle with Seth is keep him busy till the mania build start. it’s perfectly reasonable and those big a deal to lose your shit over lol

I don't mean to speak for whomever you're arguing with, but, the belt Seth holds is the bronze medal. It just is. It's the "here's your pizza party!!!" for making us $4 billion dollars last year.

Bless you, you're the fan WWE wants. You think what Seth holds is worth something, but it's not.

I mean, in kayfabe sence, yeah, the World Title is suppose to mean something, if it didn’t then people on this forum wouldn’t lose their shit when the likes of Shinsuke, Sami, Drew, Priest etc..didn’t win the title when they faced him, so obviously Seth’s belt is worth something if people want other wrestlers to win it.

And thanks for that unnecessary insult at the end there, don’t know why we have to resort to that but ok?

[Mozenrath]

I kind of assume Cody is going to beat Roman, and relinquish the Universal title, probably in putting over that he's not going to hoard it like Roman did and rob wrestlers of opportunities, which is then unified with the belt Seth has in some fashion.

Cody wanted the WWE title because it's the one his dad never won. The Universal title as something on his resume's a neat trinket, I guess, but I don't figure he, in kayfabe or out, has that many reasons to care about it, versus someone like Seth who actually has history with the thing.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 30, 2024 1:09:26 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Jan 30, 2024 0:55:06 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

I don't mean to speak for whomever you're arguing with, but, the belt Seth holds is the bronze medal. It just is. It's the "here's your pizza party!!!" for making us $4 billion dollars last year.

Bless you, you're the fan WWE wants. You think what Seth holds is worth something, but it's not.

I mean, in kayfabe sence, yeah, the World Title is suppose to mean something, if it didn’t then people on this forum wouldn’t lose their shit when the likes of Shinsuke, Sami, Drew, Priest etc..didn’t win the title when they faced him, so obviously Seth’s belt is worth something if people want other wrestlers to win it.

We aren't losing their shit because they didn't win the RAW world title

We're "losing our shit" because all these guys are constantly booked as choke artists who can never WIN a major world title (Drew since the Pandemic ended anyway). And when they can't even win the third world title, the consolation belt, it's annoying, and upsetting. It actually has nothing to do with prestige at this point it's more that "Wow, these guys really aren't ever gonna win shit are they?", the only one I actually have any hope for in that crop anymore is Sami because of how atrocious the booking has been. Nakamura couldn't beat a crippled Seth, Priest won't even LOOK at a Crippled Seth with a guaranteed anytime anywhere Briefcase and Drew's never been the same since "Sweet Caroline" even if I love his character work right now, he might be on his way out anyway

So yeah for me it's less that the belt mean's something and more I wish these guys would be presented better and well, they haven't been, they're just fodder for now the third place prize and it sucks to me.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Jan 30, 2024 1:12:49 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I kind of assume Cody is going to beat Roman, and relinquish the Universal title, probably in putting over that he's not going to hoard it like Roman did and rob wrestlers of opportunities, which is then unified with the belt Seth has in some fashion.

Cody wanted the WWE title because it's the one his dad never won. The Universal title as something on his resume's a neat trinket, I guess, but I don't figure he, in kayfabe or out, has that many reasons to care about it, versus someone like Seth who actually has history with the thing.

Given the women’s title also says Undisputed on it for no apparent reason I assume they’re just going to keep with the branding as it is now even when Roman does lose.

[ben:friendship frog]

I don't get why people are so mad about a wrestling promotion trying to make their 'World Heavyweight Championship' seem prestigious? That's kinda the whole point.

Yeah it's a bit silly to think Cody wouldn't challenge Roman but it was a good promo in isolation and what's Seth supposed to say? "Yeah, this belt is the secondary world title but I wanna main event Mania!"?

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Jan 30, 2024 2:22:15 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I don't get why people are so mad about a wrestling promotion trying to make their 'World Heavyweight Championship' seem prestigious? That's kinda the whole point.

Yeah it's a bit silly to think Cody wouldn't challenge Roman but it was a good promo in isolation and what's Seth supposed to say? "Yeah, this belt is the secondary world title but I wanna main event Mania!"?

It isn't gonna stay that way either. When Cody wins the title, he isn't going to have as long of a run as Roman had and by the time Seth loses that title it'll be coming up on 300 days iirc. We all know that it is the bronze medal but that doesn't mean it needs to stay that way if Cody wins the undisputed titles, keeps it to just one title and each show has their one title like it used to be. You can make the WHC prestigious, it'll just take time.

[Schizo]

Jan 30, 2024 2:22:15 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I don't get why people are so mad about a wrestling promotion trying to make their 'World Heavyweight Championship' seem prestigious? That's kinda the whole point.

EXACTLY. Like, some legit are really loosing their shit over this lol

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 30, 2024 2:34:40 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Jan 30, 2024 2:22:15 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I don't get why people are so mad about a wrestling promotion trying to make their 'World Heavyweight Championship' seem prestigious? That's kinda the whole point.

EXACTLY. Like, some legit are really loosing their shit over this lol

We really aren't in here? I said why I think it sucks pretty evenly and why I think it's f***ing stupid

It's not that hard to comprehend as to why and I thought the responses outside of resorting to anything personal, which isn't cool, have been pretty fair as to why people aren't feeling this promo and why they think Seth's title is still a joke especially when compared to the other belts and Roman's reign directly

If you enjoy it or think it's logical that's also perfectly fine I'm just not on the same fence and idk if I will be for awhile with how this has been presented. Sucks Seth got hurt but it's made everything even worse around this belt right now.

[burdette25159]

If we do get Cody/Rollins WHC match at mania, where does that leave Roman Reigns? Roman vs Rock?

[papagiorgio]

Unless the WWE still thinks they have a shot at the Rock wrestling, I have to think it is still Cody vs Reigns at Mania. It was a nice speech by Rollins, but the belt with the lineage is still the belt with the lineage and it needs saving from the diabolical part-timer. Do we need Cody vs Rollins IV already?

[thechase]

Jan 30, 2024 2:29:07 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Jan 30, 2024 2:22:15 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I don't get why people are so mad about a wrestling promotion trying to make their 'World Heavyweight Championship' seem prestigious? That's kinda the whole point.

Yeah it's a bit silly to think Cody wouldn't challenge Roman but it was a good promo in isolation and what's Seth supposed to say? "Yeah, this belt is the secondary world title but I wanna main event Mania!"?

It isn't gonna stay that way either. When Cody wins the title, he isn't going to have as long of a run as Roman had

Yeah, I see Cody having a reign like Dusty...over in days if not weeks, and then he moves on, still over and a main event guy, but more suited as a chaser than champion. 

[Alice Syndrome]

OK I'm doing the Mania bet thing but if there is any single result except Cody taking the belts off Roman I'm changing my name to "The writers were wrong"

[ppl591]

Wait until the match when the bloodline is thwarted by qt Marshall

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

I decided to change the title to something less acrimonious.

As for my two cents? When a belt has the viewership that Seth’s WHC has and the kind of worker and personality wearing it that it does, sorry, but it’s a meaningful championship by default.

[Rican]

Jan 30, 2024 7:03:04 GMT -5 BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps said:

I decided to change the title to something less acrimonious.

As for my two cents? When a belt has the viewership that Seth’s WHC has and the kind of worker and personality wearing it that it does, sorry, but it’s a meaningful championship by default.

Thanks for changing the title, just my two cents but the “bitch” thing has gotten kinda out of hand and feels legit disrespectful

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

Jan 30, 2024 7:05:02 GMT -5 Rican said:

Jan 30, 2024 7:03:04 GMT -5 BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps said:

I decided to change the title to something less acrimonious.

As for my two cents? When a belt has the viewership that Seth’s WHC has and the kind of worker and personality wearing it that it does, sorry, but it’s a meaningful championship by default.

Thanks for changing the title, just my two cents but the “bitch” thing has gotten kinda out of hand and feels legit disrespectful

You know my philosophy- even if I don’t give the people what they want, I can at least give them what they *need.* 😋

[HMARK Center]

Jan 30, 2024 1:23:19 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Jan 30, 2024 1:12:49 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I kind of assume Cody is going to beat Roman, and relinquish the Universal title, probably in putting over that he's not going to hoard it like Roman did and rob wrestlers of opportunities, which is then unified with the belt Seth has in some fashion.

Cody wanted the WWE title because it's the one his dad never won. The Universal title as something on his resume's a neat trinket, I guess, but I don't figure he, in kayfabe or out, has that many reasons to care about it, versus someone like Seth who actually has history with the thing.

Given the women’s title also says Undisputed on it for no apparent reason I assume they’re just going to keep with the branding as it is now even when Roman does lose.

How does a promotion with multiples of each kind of championship label just one of them from each division "undisputed"?

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Jan 30, 2024 6:35:48 GMT -5 thechase said:

Jan 30, 2024 2:29:07 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

It isn't gonna stay that way either. When Cody wins the title, he isn't going to have as long of a run as Roman had

Yeah, I see Cody having a reign like Dusty...over in days if not weeks, and then he moves on, still over and a main event guy, but more suited as a chaser than champion. 

I figured he would hold it till Bash in Berlin, when Gunther took it from him. I just figured that was the natural progression in the Cody vs Gunther story they've set up the past 2 Rumbles. But with Punk's injury, that's up in the air. Do they have Gunther take Seth's title earlier than that?

[fw91]

Imo, these belt arguments are admittedly inconsistent from all of us. Like I whole-heartedly agree with the “bronze medal” argument. But all the same, if Sami wins the thing at mania, we’d all mark out that he “did it” and got his moment.