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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 3, 2023 10:49:20 GMT -5
The Spider Man clone saga
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 3, 2023 11:44:49 GMT -5
The Walking Dead. I was on the fence about quitting it for a while and then the season cliffhanger with Negan at the end of S6 finished me off. I didn't care who he killed and never watched another episode. Me too. I'm surprised it took me so long to realize it was a show about nothing. Say what you will about how bad the ending of Game of Thrones was, at least the show had an actual plot arc. Walking Dead was just meandering misery porn with no end in sight and I find the childish nihilist message the show seems so obsessed with to be morally repugnant.
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Post by Fade on Apr 3, 2023 12:02:24 GMT -5
The Last Jedi literally killed my enthusiasm for Star Wars. TFA was WrestleMania Night 1 and TLJ was WrestleMania Night 2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 12:11:30 GMT -5
House MD - I stopped caring right around the time House got put into the Psychiatric hospital.
Jason Aaron's Avengers run - when he decided that the Phoenix was Thor's mom.
I stopped caring about the DC movie universe when it became clear that none of the ideas in the SnyderCut were going to be paid off, and I'm not even a Snyder fan boy.
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Apr 3, 2023 12:21:01 GMT -5
I gave up on Bones when Booth knocked her up. I would have ended the series there.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Apr 3, 2023 12:28:22 GMT -5
Attack on Titan after Isayama tried to bolt a slightly cack-handed race allegory after the basement reveal. It got a bit too ‘both sides’ for comfort at times.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 3, 2023 12:56:18 GMT -5
WWE, Star Wars, Star Trek, and the Simpsons.
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Post by thechase on Apr 3, 2023 13:00:36 GMT -5
The Spider Man clone saga It astounds me how we've gone right back to it in recent years...and everything they're doing now with it is somehow even worse.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Apr 3, 2023 13:06:54 GMT -5
TWD-Loved the comic since early on. But once the comic ended we gave up on the show. I had been losing interest in the show for a few seasons. Last EP we saw was when Jesus got killed.
Pretty much all your major superheroes at DC and Marvel. Sure as a kid I loved Spidey,Hulk,FF,X-men and Batman. But once I was about 12 and realized we will never get an ending or usually major change I just stopped reading them. Rather spend my time reading something I enjoy than reading something I hate. OR hell even keeping up on a title I hate.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 3, 2023 13:14:00 GMT -5
I can only think about about 3 instances where "clones" didn't turn a story into a pure cluterf#$@ of nonsense. Zero of them are in comics.
Two of the three instances are Stormtrooper Clones and Jurassic Park.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 3, 2023 13:18:08 GMT -5
Naruto when everyone started to have the same sob backstory to justify why they are mass murderers. My interest limped along as I forced myself through extended fillers, though the main story was compelling enough to keep me through it. I started Boruto, just couldn’t get into the title character’s daddy issues and many of the original characters taking a 180 in their personality.
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Post by thechase on Apr 3, 2023 13:29:53 GMT -5
TWD-Loved the comic since early on. But once the comic ended we gave up on the show. I had been losing interest in the show for a few seasons. Last EP we saw was when Jesus got killed. Pretty much all your major superheroes at DC and Marvel. Sure as a kid I loved Spidey,Hulk,FF,X-men and Batman. But once I was about 12 and realized we will never get an ending or usually major change I just stopped reading them. Rather spend my time reading something I enjoy than reading something I hate. OR hell even keeping up on a title I hate. Well, in some cases, some of them have endings, it's just nobody ever bothers to 'count' the alternate universes for reasons that only make sense when you're young. Spider-Man's 'real' ending to me for instance is Spider-Girl, and I know Stan Lee did write a conclusion to the Fantastic Four in the 2000s. Claremont also wrote his 'conclusion' to X-Men and got a whole limited series out of it around the time Marvel put out their 'The End' label.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Apr 3, 2023 14:30:52 GMT -5
TWD-Loved the comic since early on. But once the comic ended we gave up on the show. I had been losing interest in the show for a few seasons. Last EP we saw was when Jesus got killed. Pretty much all your major superheroes at DC and Marvel. Sure as a kid I loved Spidey,Hulk,FF,X-men and Batman. But once I was about 12 and realized we will never get an ending or usually major change I just stopped reading them. Rather spend my time reading something I enjoy than reading something I hate. OR hell even keeping up on a title I hate. Well, in some cases, some of them have endings, it's just nobody ever bothers to 'count' the alternate universes for reasons that only make sense when you're young. Spider-Man's 'real' ending to me for instance is Spider-Girl, and I know Stan Lee did write a conclusion to the Fantastic Four in the 2000s. Claremont also wrote his 'conclusion' to X-Men and got a whole limited series out of it around the time Marvel put out their 'The End' label. By ending I meant no more issues published. With a definative ending. Like say with Preacher or Cerebus. Many other titles,those are just the first two to jump into my mind. The last big Marvel series I can think of to get that is Tomb of Dracula,betting there is one since then I either forgot or just never heard of. And with DC.....not including Vertigo,cause if so there is plenty,hmmm not sure. As for stories and the topic. I lost interest in a few long running series. Stuff like Wild Cards and Dresden Files. Both of them were books I had to get each new volume the day it came out. And would read it in 2 to 3 days. Then with Wild Cards long gaps between volumes and Dresden a similar thing,made me lose interest.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 15:17:09 GMT -5
WWE, Star Wars, Star Trek, and the Simpsons. kind of hard to care about a story when the show is notorious for never doing anything new unless they are forced to.
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Post by chrom on Apr 3, 2023 15:40:34 GMT -5
Naruto when everyone started to have the same sob backstory to justify why they are mass murderers. My interest limped along as I forced myself through extended fillers, though the main story was compelling enough to keep me through it. I started Boruto, just couldn’t get into the title character’s daddy issues and many of the original characters taking a 180 in their personality. Naruto has become an utter shell of himself and the little bastard is one of the most unlikable characters to exist in anime.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 3, 2023 16:26:03 GMT -5
The Spider Man clone saga It astounds me how we've gone right back to it in recent years...and everything they're doing now with it is somehow even worse. Wait, what? Don't get me wrong, I was initially very into the story of Ben Reilly and even dug the backstory regarding Kaine. The 500 other clones wound up messing it all up, plus I never stuck around long enough to find out what the other ancillary characters were about (seriously, did anyone find Judas Traveller remotely interesting?). Changes I would have made: - I'm fine with Kaine being a failed attempt at perfectly cloning Peter. I even like the idea of him hounding Ben, either because he was jealous of the perfect clone or because he thought Ben was actually the original Peter (though he definitely should never have been). - I don't mind the idea of the Jackal having faked his death and modified himself with Peter's DNA, warping his own mind in the process. I don't like the idea of Jackal being a clone, strangely enough. There's too many as is, and the fact that he lost something of himself trying to make himself a match for Peter physically would explain why there aren't more clones out there as he no longer knows how to make even semi-stable clones. That would have been a much better plot device, quite honestly, than what they did do. It also would explain why he tried to lure Peter (the original DNA source), Ben (the perfect clone), and Kaine (the imperfect but still impressive clone) out to find him as he needed to try to study them in order to relearn his techniques. No need to have them "programmed" to find him. - Forget the Judas Traveller stuff. Having Kaine and the cops in Colorado(?) being involved with Ben is enough background characters from his separate past. - Peter was always the OG Peter, but having him semi-retire and letting Ben take over isn't the worse idea. Focusing on Ben can do what they hoped to do (introduce a new dynamic to Spider-Man by focusing on the literal swinging bachelor lifestyle again) while having Peter available for the occasional story of his own. - Does the Marvel Comics need a Spidercide, let alone that little imp clone?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 3, 2023 16:29:02 GMT -5
seriously, did anyone find Judas Traveller remotely interesting? Judas Traveller's kind of weird in that I feel like you probably could make the character work... but he's really not a Spider-Man villain and even if he was, they never at any point had any clue whatsoever what the character's deal actually was or what he was building up to so the whole thing was always destined to fail. They probably had the right idea bringing him back as an X-Men villain, but best I can tell that was basically a one-off and they haven't done anything with him since.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 3, 2023 17:01:17 GMT -5
The first couple of seasons of Empire were actually some genuinely fun telenova-style soap opera tales. Lucious’s actor debuting Terryology was awkward, but it wasn’t something that was actively going to derail the show at the time. It started jumping the shark around when Lucious got amnesia and the writers couldn’t figure out if Andre was a face or a heel. Really, the show was running out of gas about a couple of years before JussieGate erupted (the fact that the Jamal Lyon character was running in places and still felt bland compared to Hakeem and the rest of the cast didn’t help).
Boardwalk Empire still had good moments after Season Three, the Richard Harrow arc especially, but Narcisse was never as intimidating a big boss character as Rothstein, Jimmy Darmody or Gyp Rossetti were. Gyp in particular, the show never got that intense again.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 3, 2023 17:03:06 GMT -5
Bleach once the Fake Karakura Town arc ended. Kubo followed it up with a timeskip and the completely forgettable Fullbring arc. Though it's almost impressive that a manga could actually have what feels like a filler arc. Made it really hard to get into the last arc with the Quincy army of doom and Yhwach was a pretty underwhelming Ultimate Big Bad.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 3, 2023 17:04:47 GMT -5
Bleach once the Fake Karakura Town arc ended. Kubo followed it up with a timeskip and the completely forgettable Fullbring arc. Though it's almost impressive that a manga could actually have what feels like a filler arc. Made it really hard to get into the last arc with the Quincy army of doom and Yhwach was a pretty underwhelming Ultimate Big Bad. I checked out on Bleach way the hell before that. I dug it when it was basically Japanese swordfighting Ghostbusters early on but then they completely shifted the focus and introduced 17,000 new characters and my interest just completely plummeted.
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