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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 7, 2023 4:54:23 GMT -5
The last Lupin series. Sure, I still like the characters and all, but I think they're running out of things to do with them. At least Jojo mixes it up with new main characters every series. American Dad. The last one I saw was the one with the hot tub (which was supposed to be the final episode anyway, so I left at the right time). Like Lupin, there's not much more you can do with the characters, especially considering how one-note most of them are. Damn, that would have been a great way to end the series: "Well, there you have it. That's our story. Stan's dead. Good night!"
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 7, 2023 5:05:57 GMT -5
The Marvel Cinematic Universe. I enjoyed WandaVision and Multiverse of Madness, but after that, nothing looks good, and the ones that showed some promise just couldn’t hold my interest. I never really cared a super huge amount about the broader cross-movie narrative anyway, but I'm definitely checked way the hell out these days. The only Phase 4 stuff I've seen is WandaVision, No Way Home, and the pilots of She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel, and there's probably not anything else I'm going to bother to watch until Fantastic Four.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 7, 2023 5:10:51 GMT -5
The Simpsons after "The Simpsons Movie" is high up there for me. I consider the movie to be canonical ending of the series. Sadly I believe the heat death of the universe will wind up being the canonical ending of the series. I wonder if Disney has stuck a contract in front of the cast members in order to be able to deepfake their voices after they become too old to do so?
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Post by SmashTV on Apr 7, 2023 7:03:11 GMT -5
The Walking Dead around series 6 and 7. Negan was a fantastic villain, but he made the main characters look weak and stupid. You could argue that trying to survive had finally taken its toll on them, but having a new character come in and instantly dominate the lead cast was a misstep. The actual dialogue had started to get a bit clunky as well. I remember an episode that focused solely on Tara, and they went for a light comedy approach that was just out of place. That was another nail in the coffin, along with the repetitive stories of getting into a fight with another settlement, which quickly grew dull.
On that note, while the other settlements were surviving either through shady means or ignorance, they were happily surviving. Then Rick and co show up and a fight ensues. Maybe they were the real problem!
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 7, 2023 7:51:14 GMT -5
Michael Bay’s Trabsformers. The first one was great, a slick modernizing of the general story from the cartoon. The second was meh, still incorporated elements from the source material but began veering off in its own direction. From the third on they officially got boringly gratuitous. And they waited way too long to pull the trigger on Unicron.
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 7, 2023 8:45:36 GMT -5
GoT when they ran out of book stuff to use.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 9:02:48 GMT -5
Sadly I believe the heat death of the universe will wind up being the canonical ending of the series. I wonder if Disney has stuck a contract in front of the cast members in order to be able to deepfake their voices after they become too old to do so? It might be time to break out the deepfake Julie Kavner. That Marge voice is sounding awfully strained these days.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 7, 2023 9:51:43 GMT -5
The Goldbergs. I was a huge Goldbergs stan for the longest time. It was a solid comedy with a fun premise. But like most shows, it overstayed and eventually the show lost it's way around season 6-7 and the writers decided to just go ramp up the fiction and brutally Flanderize the characters. Other stuff happened: AJ Mckenna left. Then George Segal died. Then the Jeff Garlin Stuff happened and they CGI'd him into a few eps when needed. Now? The show is basically "The wacky adventures of Beverly and Barry Goldberg" Adam is just there. Erica is now a mean spirited Mom, married to an even more neutered Geoff. Thankfully, the show is being Old Yellered at the end of the season.
But the biggest, most unforgivable thing was how the network completely dicked over Adam F Goldberg (which happened around the end of season 6, so THERE'S the trace back to the steep decline
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Post by schma on Apr 7, 2023 12:15:51 GMT -5
Michael Bay’s Trabsformers. The first one was great, a slick modernizing of the general story from the cartoon. The second was meh, still incorporated elements from the source material but began veering off in its own direction. From the third on they officially got boringly gratuitous. And they waited way too long to pull the trigger on Unicron. I didn't even realize they got to Unicron. I think I checked out on age of Extinction which honestly just felt like a bunch of unrelated scenes that despite having giant robots fight, managed to be incredibly boring.
Although, I almost gave up in the second one when Megatron beats down Starscream and makes a big deal about how he's the only leader, then 30 seconds later is bowing before his master. At least space that crap out a bit. But this is Michael Bay. He also gave us Shredder betraying Baxter Stockman only to go surprise Pickachu face when the next scene, Krang betrays him.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 7, 2023 12:27:53 GMT -5
The Walking Dead around series 6 and 7. Negan was a fantastic villain, but he made the main characters look weak and stupid. You could argue that trying to survive had finally taken its toll on them, but having a new character come in and instantly dominate the lead cast was a misstep. The actual dialogue had started to get a bit clunky as well. I remember an episode that focused solely on Tara, and they went for a light comedy approach that was just out of place. That was another nail in the coffin, along with the repetitive stories of getting into a fight with another settlement, which quickly grew dull. On that note, while the other settlements were surviving either through shady means or ignorance, they were happily surviving. Then Rick and co show up and a fight ensues. Maybe they were the real problem! Rick and his crew were absolutely the real villains. Assholes destroyed everything they touched and just kept going on their merry way.
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 7, 2023 12:29:27 GMT -5
Michael Bay’s Trabsformers. The first one was great, a slick modernizing of the general story from the cartoon. The second was meh, still incorporated elements from the source material but began veering off in its own direction. From the third on they officially got boringly gratuitous. And they waited way too long to pull the trigger on Unicron. I didn't even realize they got to Unicron. I think I checked out on age of Extinction which honestly just felt like a bunch of unrelated scenes that despite having giant robots fight, managed to be incredibly boring. Although, I almost gave up in the second one when Megatron beats down Starscream and makes a big deal about how he's the only leader, then 30 seconds later is bowing before his master. At least space that crap out a bit. But this is Michael Bay. He also gave us Shredder betraying Baxter Stockman only to go surprise Pickachu face when the next scene, Krang betrays him.
They haven’t officially gotten to Unicron, just dropped hints of him. In the last one, the final scene is the discovery of one of unicron’s spires sticking out of the earth’s surface. They also turned Megatron into Gamvatron-and then right back again. Similar note, the X Men franchise lost me after part 3 and the Wolverine origin movie. My two cents: after part 3 magneto was played out. Instead of flashbacks or time travel, they should have stuck in the timeline of the first three movies-but moved on to Sinister as the bad guy, the power behind the events of the first three movies; magneto’s mutant making machine in the first one, Stryker’s plan in part 2, and the cure in part 3 all have shades of brig plots Sinister would be involved in. And that should have set the stage for an even bigger reveal of of someone worse being behind Sinister-Alocalypse.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 7, 2023 16:26:27 GMT -5
I didn't even realize they got to Unicron. I think I checked out on age of Extinction which honestly just felt like a bunch of unrelated scenes that despite having giant robots fight, managed to be incredibly boring. Although, I almost gave up in the second one when Megatron beats down Starscream and makes a big deal about how he's the only leader, then 30 seconds later is bowing before his master. At least space that crap out a bit. But this is Michael Bay. He also gave us Shredder betraying Baxter Stockman only to go surprise Pickachu face when the next scene, Krang betrays him.
They haven’t officially gotten to Unicron, just dropped hints of him. In the last one, the final scene is the discovery of one of unicron’s slides sticking out of the earth’s surface. They also turned Megatron into Gamvatron-and then right back again. Earth being Unicron isn't even original... it happened in one of the cartoons too... it was handled better that way too.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 7, 2023 16:40:08 GMT -5
MCU fan here... I'm really struggling to care about multiverse anything. Loki was a fun show but now it feels like everything has devolved into a convoluted mess with no real stakes. "Oh no! Hero X/Planet Y/CityB was totally destroyed!" Yeah who cares it was just one of the infinite versions of it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 7, 2023 16:46:36 GMT -5
MCU fan here... I'm really struggling to care about multiverse anything. Loki was a fun show but now it feels like everything has devolved into a convoluted mess with no real stakes. "Oh no! Hero X/Planet Y/CityB was totally destroyed!" Yeah who cares it was just one of the infinite versions of it. Yeah, it's not helping that Spider-Verse did a much better job of establishing the stakes by virtue of keeping the conflict grounded. So far, they haven't really done a good job of that, the closest being No Way Home, which earns some points by basically leaning on "you care about Peter, here are two more Peters." Even that only gets it so far, though, and is still not creating the situation themselves.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 8, 2023 15:00:33 GMT -5
Michael Bay’s Trabsformers. The first one was great, a slick modernizing of the general story from the cartoon. The second was meh, still incorporated elements from the source material but began veering off in its own direction. From the third on they officially got boringly gratuitous. And they waited way too long to pull the trigger on Unicron. For me it was in the third movie when Optimus allowed innocent people to die just to prove a point, I was done after that, though I did see and enjoy Bumblebee.
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 9, 2023 6:48:13 GMT -5
Michael Bay’s Trabsformers. The first one was great, a slick modernizing of the general story from the cartoon. The second was meh, still incorporated elements from the source material but began veering off in its own direction. From the third on they officially got boringly gratuitous. And they waited way too long to pull the trigger on Unicron. For me it was in the third movie when Optimus allowed innocent people to die just to prove a point, I was done after that, though I did see and enjoy Bumblebee. One of my takeaways walking out of the theater was asking when did Optimus become so cold and calculated, and Megatron such a wimp?
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Post by thirteen3 on Apr 9, 2023 7:29:30 GMT -5
A Song of Ice and Fire. It'll never be finished.
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Post by schma on Apr 9, 2023 9:45:50 GMT -5
For me it was in the third movie when Optimus allowed innocent people to die just to prove a point, I was done after that, though I did see and enjoy Bumblebee. One of my takeaways walking out of the theater was asking when did Optimus become so cold and calculated, and Megatron such a wimp? I haven't seen the third one since it was new and I completely forgot about him allowing innocents to die. However, in the original cartoon Optimus had some pretty brutal moments. When they originally built the dinobots, for some reason they made them roughly as smart as dinosaurs so naturally they wreaked havoc. Once they were shut down he had them walled up as you apparently do when your experiments in creating new life hit a road block. Later they figured out how to make them smarter and let them stay conscious.
However, a later episode saw the dinobots cause the team to lose a battle because of infighting so Optimus just straight up banishes them to an uninhabited island and basically tells them, don't come back until you can work together.
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Post by schma on Apr 9, 2023 9:46:30 GMT -5
A Song of Ice and Fire. It'll never be finished. I remember trying to decide whether to continue on with the show once it was passing the books. I finally realized he will never finish the books so I watched the show since at least then I wouldn't be dodging spoilers.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 9, 2023 10:02:12 GMT -5
There are a lot of webcomics I've given up on over the years, might as well spotlight one of those. I was really big into El Goonish Shive for a long time but then it spent like a year and a half on a single storyline, focused almost entirely on Ellen when she's very easily one of the least likable characters and coming off of another very lengthy storyline also largely about her, and that just killed my investment in it. I did stick with it a little bit past that, but then it started kind of awkwardly turning into a superhero story with a really stupid fanservicey bent around everything and started introducing a giant amount of new characters all in rapid succession, pretty blatantly just because the author wanted to experiment with character designs, and I just checked way the hell out.
I've kept meaning to re-read it at some point, and I have been occasionally glancing at it lately and largely finding it interesting, but there's a lot of shit to slog through that is really putting me off actually getting back to it.
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