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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 5, 2023 23:55:06 GMT -5
If anything this proves that there's an appetite for more wrestling in the UK and WWE probably undersold themselves on booking an arena. The amount of people willing to spend money on big time events is fantastic for the industry. I wonder if trying to book the Raiders stadium for Money in the Bank and backfiring scared them a bit from trying again with the same PPV? Either way now they know lol |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2023 0:48:22 GMT -5
Why is there still tribalism over something like this? I’m the biggest Embrace The Hate angle apologist of all time and I hope AEW can crack the 85K mark with this. The bigger the crowd for a pro wrestling show, the happier I am. I love seeing the business as a whole doing strong numbers. Like, tickets selling well for something is on the same weekend where WWE, doing their first PPV there for literal decades, sold out Backlash in Puerto Rico. For all the talk of pro wrestling not being mainstream or where it was during the MNW, that’s two countries starved of big shows for no real good reason coming out for the big shows. That’s great for everyone. Some of the tribalism and goalpost moving, especially from WWE fans on Twitter, is super weird. We all benefit from this. |
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Post by Kalmia on May 6, 2023 5:23:25 GMT -5
I bet nobody has mentioned that there are still seats still available for Money In The Bank too. At the O2 Arena.. with a capacity of 20,000. Money in the Bank sold out in one minute of the general on sale starting. There are still some combo MITB and Smackdown tickets available that aren't resale. So it isn't a sell out yet. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2023 5:46:15 GMT -5
Money in the Bank sold out in one minute of the general on sale starting. There are still some combo MITB and Smackdown tickets available that aren't resale. So it isn't a sell out yet. Which feels weird considering those should be easy home runs considering the venue and what the show is but also the minimum price of those right now is £600 which, even for what are good seats at the O2 for MITB and Smackdown, isn’t exactly affordable. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 6, 2023 5:49:12 GMT -5
There are still some combo MITB and Smackdown tickets available that aren't resale. So it isn't a sell out yet. Which feels weird considering those should be easy home runs considering the venue and what the show is but also the minimum price of those right now is £600 which, even for what are good seats at the O2, isn’t exactly affordable. Yeah I was looking at the pricing and that definitely sums up why they haven't sold out yet... |
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Post by Kalmia on May 6, 2023 6:00:00 GMT -5
There are still some combo MITB and Smackdown tickets available that aren't resale. So it isn't a sell out yet. Which feels weird considering those should be easy home runs considering the venue and what the show is but also the minimum price of those right now is £600 which, even for what are good seats at the O2 for MITB and Smackdown, isn’t exactly affordable. Yeah, if they were a more reasonable price I'm sure they would have gone already. WWE doesn't price it's events well here. If Clash had been priced better, I'm sure it would have sold out. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2023 6:00:58 GMT -5
Which feels weird considering those should be easy home runs considering the venue and what the show is but also the minimum price of those right now is £600 which, even for what are good seats at the O2, isn’t exactly affordable. Yeah I was looking at the pricing and that definitely sums up why they haven't sold out yet... And it’s not like they won’t or anything but it does sort of summarize that companies haven’t really been branching out to the UK or around the world for stuff until the last decade (Impact practically had a home base and did way more than most companies but they also squandered a lot of that goodwill) and between this, AEW’s Canada tour and Backlash tonight, I hope that starts to change. There’s a real hunger internationally for shows and with Peacock, Max and Impact Plus/FITE respectively, the excuse to not do so is getting less and less when it’s so much more accessible. Which feels weird considering those should be easy home runs considering the venue and what the show is but also the minimum price of those right now is £600 which, even for what are good seats at the O2 for MITB and Smackdown, isn’t exactly affordable. Yeah, if they were a more reasonable price I'm sure they would have gone already. WWE doesn't price it's events well here. If Clash had been priced better, I'm sure it would have sold out. Absolutely. If there’s one thing not-petty WWE can take from All In’s success is that if the tickets are a good enough price and you lay out the arena right, you can make gangbusters. And Clash was a success, no doubt but still. |
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Post by polarbearpete on May 6, 2023 7:08:22 GMT -5
Money in the Bank sold out in one minute of the general on sale starting. There are still some combo MITB and Smackdown tickets available that aren't resale. So it isn't a sell out yet. I guess because they’re combo tickets, it’s considered a sell out regardless? I know Meltzer still has it as sold out in the weekly Observer ticket rundown. |
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Post by Kalmia on May 6, 2023 8:06:27 GMT -5
There are still some combo MITB and Smackdown tickets available that aren't resale. So it isn't a sell out yet. I guess because they’re combo tickets, it’s considered a sell out regardless? I know Meltzer still has it as sold out in the weekly Observer ticket rundown. The tickets are listed as a separate event so it might be that he's overlooking them. Or he's not counting them. I'm sure if they were more reasonably priced they'd be sold already. |
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Post by Renslayer on May 6, 2023 9:20:19 GMT -5
How much control do khan and AEW have over ticketmaster pricing? I need them to keep it as low as possible so fans have more access to big time events like this. I hate ticketmaster's price gouging asses
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Post by polarbearpete on May 6, 2023 9:44:46 GMT -5
How much control do khan and AEW have over ticketmaster pricing? I need them to keep it as low as possible so fans have more access to big time events like this. I hate ticketmaster's price gouging asses Complete control as far as I know as it relates to the face value of the tickets (but not the extra fees). But if they let Ticketmaster make some tickets be the “dynamic” pricing type then the prices fluctuate based on the demand and how soon the event is. |
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on May 6, 2023 9:44:56 GMT -5
How much control do khan and AEW have over ticketmaster pricing? I need them to keep it as low as possible so fans have more access to big time events like this. I hate ticketmaster's price gouging asses Basically think of it like a concert; The artist (or really - their management) sets the ticket prices in the contract for the tour which will vary from tier to tier then Ticketmaster will come in like Vikingo off the top rope with their various fees that turn a $50 face value ticket into a $90+ ticket. Then ticketmaster will designate certain sections/seats under their Dynamic Pricing model and those tickets will skyrocket - the whole bullshit is based on a buncha factors but usually result in four figure price tickets for prime locations BEFORE fees. Taylor Swift raised a stink over this when her tour sale launched and broke everything. Ticketmaster had been doing this for years and the public at large never gave a shit until the Swifties went to war. And nothing really changed. Then Robert Smith lost his shit when The Cure launched some tickets and Ticketmaster tried that shit. And Ticketmaster relented. So, yeah…the Goth Kid ‘beat’ The Popular Preppy Kid at something. Long and short to your original question; some control but no control over ticketmasters fees and dynamic bullshit. |
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Post by markymark on May 6, 2023 9:59:00 GMT -5
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Post by Bo Rida on May 6, 2023 10:07:23 GMT -5
The worst thing about the fees is that they have a shit website, no phonelines and there's no printing and postal logistics these days. They do nothing to earn them but make things worse. Parasites.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 6, 2023 10:16:06 GMT -5
How much control do khan and AEW have over ticketmaster pricing? I need them to keep it as low as possible so fans have more access to big time events like this. I hate ticketmaster's price gouging asses Basically think of it like a concert; The artist (or really - their management) sets the ticket prices in the contract for the tour which will vary from tier to tier then Ticketmaster will come in like Vikingo off the top rope with their various fees that turn a $50 face value ticket into a $90+ ticket. Then ticketmaster will designate certain sections/seats under their Dynamic Pricing model and those tickets will skyrocket - the whole bullshit is based on a buncha factors but usually result in four figure price tickets for prime locations BEFORE fees. Taylor Swift raised a stink over this when her tour sale launched and broke everything. Ticketmaster had been doing this for years and the public at large never gave a shit until the Swifties went to war. And nothing really changed. Then Robert Smith lost his shit when The Cure launched some tickets and Ticketmaster tried that shit. And Ticketmaster relented. So, yeah…the Goth Kid ‘beat’ The Popular Preppy Kid at something. Long and short to your original question; some control but no control over ticketmasters fees and dynamic bullshit. How do you know Taylor Swift didn’t have a high school goth phase? |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 6, 2023 10:22:14 GMT -5
Basically think of it like a concert; The artist (or really - their management) sets the ticket prices in the contract for the tour which will vary from tier to tier then Ticketmaster will come in like Vikingo off the top rope with their various fees that turn a $50 face value ticket into a $90+ ticket. Then ticketmaster will designate certain sections/seats under their Dynamic Pricing model and those tickets will skyrocket - the whole bullshit is based on a buncha factors but usually result in four figure price tickets for prime locations BEFORE fees. Taylor Swift raised a stink over this when her tour sale launched and broke everything. Ticketmaster had been doing this for years and the public at large never gave a shit until the Swifties went to war. And nothing really changed. Then Robert Smith lost his shit when The Cure launched some tickets and Ticketmaster tried that shit. And Ticketmaster relented. So, yeah…the Goth Kid ‘beat’ The Popular Preppy Kid at something. Long and short to your original question; some control but no control over ticketmasters fees and dynamic bullshit. How do you know Taylor Swift didn’t have a high school goth phase? We've already established she wore T-shirts and was on the bleachers. |
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Post by Jindrak Mark on May 6, 2023 10:30:45 GMT -5
If anything this proves that there's an appetite for more wrestling in the UK and WWE probably undersold themselves on booking an arena. The amount of people willing to spend money on big time events is fantastic for the industry. I don’t think WWE runs Wembley in the near future because they expect people to pay them to host these major events. Like cities bid to host WM and now SS/RR. Puerto Rico paid $1.5m to get Backlash. The Saudis obviously pay millions. The Welsh government helped facilitate CATC because of the tourism boost it would being. Before a ticket is sold they’ve already made money. London/Wembley though, they’re not going to beg you to come. They have major events all the time. They don’t pay you, you pay them for the prestige of performing in their stadium. I thinks it’s like £750k to rent for a major event. Although you obviously make that back and more if you sell well. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2023 12:38:16 GMT -5
If anything this proves that there's an appetite for more wrestling in the UK and WWE probably undersold themselves on booking an arena. The amount of people willing to spend money on big time events is fantastic for the industry. I don’t think WWE runs Wembley in the near future because they expect people to pay them to host these major events. Like cities bid to host WM and now SS/RR. Puerto Rico paid $1.5m to get Backlash. The Saudis obviously pay millions. The Welsh government helped facilitate CATC because of the tourism boost it would being. Before a ticket is sold they’ve already made money. London/Wembley though, they’re not going to beg you to come. They have major events all the time. They don’t pay you, you pay them for the prestige of performing in their stadium. I thinks it’s like £750k to rent for a major event. Although you obviously make that back and more if you sell well. Bix had an article last year which includes a Bid book for WrestleMania 32 that basically makes the whole system akin to a Super Bowl or a Olympics, more so where the model comes from, where there's a lot of demands from WWE and, obviously, they take the profits from the stadium off of the promise of tourism. Which works for somewhere in America like a Miami, a Dallas and such but a London is still one of the most prominent destinations that has easily accessible venues and enough locations close by to do stuff that don't require a lot from the people going outside of hotel fares and such. And there's nothing wrong with that per say but it does limit the places you can go to an extent because, as you said, people come to you and you're not going to them. But if someone approaches you with the money needed then everything else is an added extra. Especially a venue like Wembley that if WWE wants to do something for April and demands upfronts, they can take the next call instead from, say, the NFL if they for some reason wanted to hold a exhibition game around that time because they've made that agreement upfront a while ago and likely make more from it. |
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Post by CeilingFan on May 6, 2023 12:45:36 GMT -5
If they manage to sell 82K tickets, then they will surpass SummerSlam 92 and the real record for WM3 (78000).
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Post by Bo Rida on May 6, 2023 13:06:51 GMT -5
I don’t think WWE runs Wembley in the near future because they expect people to pay them to host these major events. Like cities bid to host WM and now SS/RR. Puerto Rico paid $1.5m to get Backlash. The Saudis obviously pay millions. The Welsh government helped facilitate CATC because of the tourism boost it would being. Before a ticket is sold they’ve already made money. London/Wembley though, they’re not going to beg you to come. They have major events all the time. They don’t pay you, you pay them for the prestige of performing in their stadium. I thinks it’s like £750k to rent for a major event. Although you obviously make that back and more if you sell well. Bix had an article last year which includes a Bid book for WrestleMania 32 that basically makes the whole system akin to a Super Bowl or a Olympics, more so where the model comes from, where there's a lot of demands from WWE and, obviously, they take the profits from the stadium off of the promise of tourism. Which works for somewhere in America like a Miami, a Dallas and such but a London is still one of the most prominent destinations that has easily accessible venues and enough locations close by to do stuff that don't require a lot from the people going outside of hotel fares and such. And there's nothing wrong with that per say but it does limit the places you can go to an extent because, as you said, people come to you and you're not going to them. But if someone approaches you with the money needed then everything else is an added extra. Especially a venue like Wembley that if WWE wants to do something for April and demands upfronts, they can take the next call instead from, say, the NFL if they for some reason wanted to hold a exhibition game around that time because they've made that agreement upfront a while ago and likely make more from it. I wonder if aew might undercut WWE with those type of deals internationally. Perth is one of the most isolated cities on Earth and are rumored to want WWE to do a stadium show there. However if aew can now point to Wembley and say they can bring the same tourism benefits with fewer demands then it might be the better option. Obviously WWE still has more name value but if it's purely tourism and not soft power/sports washing it doesn't really matter. Plus Orange Cassidy or HoB taking selfies with quokkas would be cool. |
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