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Post by karl100589 on May 16, 2023 12:28:39 GMT -5
Here's one that the UK posters here can confirm or deny for me: Does Blackadder have less staying power since Mr. Bean came on the airways? Blackadder is still regarded as one of the greatest British sitcoms ever made. Me and my friends still quote Stephen Fry as the Duke of Wellington
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 17, 2023 20:52:48 GMT -5
At least the areas I have lived in,mostly deep south,Mr Bean aired often on PBS. Blackadder I remember airing for at most a few months on PBS then never again.
10 years ago the local library had a Black Adder DVD full run set for sale for 3 bucks. Kick ass.Grab it and plow thru series 1 and 2 in a day. Go to pull the disc with Series 3 on it out of hte case and the disc snaps in half....
So off to netflix have them send me disc 3,make a copy and put that copy in the case.
For me and Rowan tv shows....
1.Black Adder 2.Thin Blue Line 3.Mr Bean
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Post by tirtefaa on Jun 2, 2023 4:49:07 GMT -5
Jake and the Fat Man - while it was never a mega hit, it was still fairly popular and got 5 seasons
Highway to Heaven - never a hit with the critics, but it was a great show to watch with my family as a kid, I remember seeing them release Season One on DVD, only to cancel future releases because of how poor the sales were.
Dynasty - huge in the 80's, especially with some of the provocative things they were doing, but once other shows caught up, they lost their edge and no one ever mentions them now.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 2, 2023 5:06:50 GMT -5
Here's one that the UK posters here can confirm or deny for me: Does Blackadder have less staying power since Mr. Bean came on the airways? Blackadder is still regarded as one of the greatest British sitcoms ever made. Me and my friends still quote Stephen Fry as the Duke of Wellington Hell, it has enough cultural cache that there are genuinely historians who have a grudge against Blackadder Goes Forth for making leadership during World War I look incompetent to the degree that it's actually helped influence public opinion about the legacy of said leadership. Given the extreme futility of the conflict and extreme losses of life, that's probably something of a justified perception.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 2, 2023 11:11:28 GMT -5
Jake and the Fat Man - while it was never a mega hit, it was still fairly popular and got 5 seasons Highway to Heaven - never a hit with the critics, but it was a great show to watch with my family as a kid, I remember seeing them release Season One on DVD, only to cancel future releases because of how poor the sales were. Dynasty - huge in the 80's, especially with some of the provocative things they were doing, but once other shows caught up, they lost their edge and no one ever mentions them now. Highway to Heaven airs daily on one of those over the air vaguely religious Family channels,I think Circle. Actually lots of the shows mentioned in this thread air on the various OTA channels. Channels like Heroes and Icons,Grit,INSP,Circle. The thing is most of the people watching those channels are over 60. My Gf works in a nursing home,and while every tv in the place has all the free streaming apps installed the old folks end up watching the channels I mentioned above,which they get with a 20 buck antenna you can get at almost any store. Dynastay is one I bet aint rerun a lot cause you have ot see each episode. Shows like that never do well in syndication. Look at LOST. Huge show,near it's final season it hit syndication and didnt last long in Syndication. 2 shows that appear to be forgotten/disappeared are thirtysomething,don't think it has any dvd release and heard music rights keep it out of syndication and streaming,and St Elsewhere.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 2, 2023 11:45:04 GMT -5
Valerie/The Hogan Family. Lasted a respectable amount of seasons, but you never see reruns of it in syndication and there was never a dvd release (the whole thing with Valerie Harper doesnt help matters).
Ellen. Aside from the coming out episode, can you remember much else about that show?
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Jun 2, 2023 18:31:23 GMT -5
Blackadder is still regarded as one of the greatest British sitcoms ever made. Me and my friends still quote Stephen Fry as the Duke of Wellington Hell, it has enough cultural cache that there are genuinely historians who have a grudge against Blackadder Goes Forth for making leadership during World War I look incompetent to the degree that it's actually helped influence public opinion about the legacy of said leadership. Given the extreme futility of the conflict and extreme losses of life, that's probably something of a justified perception. I think its more the implication of cowardice than incompetence that draws the criticism. Stephen Fry's Melchet character is seen living in luxury miles from the enemy and his life is never in danger. In real life he'd have probably been fighting, 12% of the British army were killed during the war increasing to 17% of officers and 20% of Etonians who fought. Germany had a similar number of their aristocrats on the front lines. I believe it was the French and Russian armies whose officers stayed far from the fighting and suffered from far more poor morale and desertions as a result. Downtown Abbey is a more accurate depiction of the British upper classes during WW1 which to bring it back on topic that was a show that was very hot about ten years ago and that no one talks about anymore.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 2, 2023 19:02:49 GMT -5
Queer as Folk and The L Word are two shows that, as one might guess, were big deals in THE GAY COMMUNITY???!! as AJ would put it, but I genuinely do not see them brought up very often these days. I could not tell you how well either show does or does not hold up, so I can't speak to that aspect, but I don't really see people mention either series terribly much, or the UK version of Queer as Folk.
I guess The L Word did have the sequel series recently, but I don't know anyone who watched it. Between that and spinoffs, though, I guess The L Word probably does not really so much qualify for the thread as it highlights that being queer yourself doesn't necessarily suggest one eats up every scrap of queer content on the airwaves.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 2, 2023 19:23:47 GMT -5
Never watched the UK version, but I checked out the Showtime QAF now and then and it had a pretty charming cast IMO, it tackled issues without losing its sense of fun usually.
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Post by Casey Jones on Jun 2, 2023 19:33:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Home Improvement came straight to mind. It beat Seinfeld in the ratings when they went head to head, but no one remembers it. No one references it, except maybe "I don't think so, Tim", which you can say and have a 50/50 shot at best of the person knowing the reference. As someone who shares a first and last name as one of the stars. I can assure, people remember Home Improvement. I get comments literally every time someone learns my last name.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 2, 2023 19:35:49 GMT -5
Usually see Queer As Folk addressed as part of Russell T. Davies' wider legacy on TV, and got brought up a lot when the Cucumber/Banana/Tofu series was created for Channel 4 in the same spirit, as well as It's A Sin.
But on that note rarely ever see The Second Coming referenced as much despite being a well regarded drama series with Christopher Eccleston and RTD working together for the first time.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 3, 2023 1:04:02 GMT -5
Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family, Northern Exposure, and Webster all ran for SIX seasons. And ironically enough, Webster's final episode was a crossover with Star Trek: The Next Generation, a show that DID have staying power.
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Post by thechase on Jun 3, 2023 3:00:07 GMT -5
Usually see Queer As Folk addressed as part of Russell T. Davies' wider legacy on TV, and got brought up a lot when the Cucumber/Banana/Tofu series was created for Channel 4 in the same spirit, as well as It's A Sin. But on that note rarely ever see The Second Coming referenced as much despite being a well regarded drama series with Christopher Eccleston and RTD working together for the first time. RTD has a lot of curiosities to his name that don't get much in the way of repeats or acknowledgement at all outside of books covering his career. There's The Grand, Revelations, Century Falls, Breakfast Serials etc, his stint on Why Don't You?, and, prior to Big Finish restarting it this year, Dark Season Let's try Steven Moffat, Press Gang, Joking Apart, Coupling etc, don't get a lot of mentions or a lot of repeats (Coupling I think did get reran on Gold a few months back in a graveyard time slot)
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 4, 2023 6:12:15 GMT -5
Granted, it's getting a spinoff soon but Orphan Black seemed poised to become the cult sci-fi classic of a generation, then just completely fell off for a variety of reasons.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jun 4, 2023 8:48:28 GMT -5
Ellen. Aside from the coming out episode, can you remember much else about that show? I remember two things. A will they/won't they storyline between Ellen and the male lead. It ended with their first kiss being a dud. And that plot never being mentioned again. And one episode where Ellen and her mother thinking one of Ellen's neighbors was a drug dealer. Even having what they believed to be cocaine accidentally delivered to Ellen's apartment. Turns out it was flour, and the neighbor was actually a chef.
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Post by schma on Jun 4, 2023 9:16:56 GMT -5
I just remembered Air Wolf. That was hot shit when I was a kid but I don't think I've seen it since. Also Knight Rider. I know they had a sequel series for Knight Rider but I don't recall if it went anywhere after that.
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Post by thechase on Jun 4, 2023 9:25:30 GMT -5
I just remembered Air Wolf. That was hot shit when I was a kid but I don't think I've seen it since. Also Knight Rider. I know they had a sequel series for Knight Rider but I don't recall if it went anywhere after that. Knight Rider is still repeated over here, I found it on the Horror Channel last week.
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Post by msc on Jun 4, 2023 9:29:59 GMT -5
Usually see Queer As Folk addressed as part of Russell T. Davies' wider legacy on TV, and got brought up a lot when the Cucumber/Banana/Tofu series was created for Channel 4 in the same spirit, as well as It's A Sin. But on that note rarely ever see The Second Coming referenced as much despite being a well regarded drama series with Christopher Eccleston and RTD working together for the first time. RTD has a lot of curiosities to his name that don't get much in the way of repeats or acknowledgement at all outside of books covering his career. There's The Grand, Revelations, Century Falls, Breakfast Serials etc, his stint on Why Don't You?, and, prior to Big Finish restarting it this year, Dark Season Let's try Steven Moffat, Press Gang, Joking Apart, Coupling etc, don't get a lot of mentions or a lot of repeats (Coupling I think did get reran on Gold a few months back in a graveyard time slot) Century Falls has niche as one of the underground cult classics of the 90s thanks to 90s kids who saw it at the time. Dark Season is better remembered for Kate Winslet. Press Gang for decades was this "influential TV show I never saw" because no one ever repeated it. Then one of the Freeview channels started, and went bust after six episodes! Jekyll was massive at the time, but has been overshadowed by Moffat's Sherlock and Dracula since.
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Post by msc on Jun 4, 2023 9:31:20 GMT -5
Btw I really liked HIMYM when I saw it a few years ago. The finale had issues, of course, but if I marked down every sitcom based on their final episodes I'd never watch some of my favourites (Drop the Dead Donkey, I'm looking at you - and thats probably one for this thread too...)
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Post by CMWaters on Jun 4, 2023 15:46:59 GMT -5
Thinking about it..for how awesome the theme song is, I think once Perfect Strangers had its final season, it pretty much faded out. Especially compared to its spin-off show Family Matters
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