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Post by LiamMcDuggle on May 8, 2023 1:18:43 GMT -5
Piggybacking off the other thread, there was so many #1 TV shows in the 90's and early 2000's that just fell off the face of the earth. Home Improvement averaged like 35 million viewers a week at one point, was the #1 non news show in the country, and I don't think 95% of people under 25 even know what that show is anymore. For a show that was battling Seinfeld at one point, it's kinda shocking how little staying power it had
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Post by saneiac on May 8, 2023 1:35:54 GMT -5
Ally McBeal. Ran for 5 seasons. Won mutiple Emmy and Golden Globe Awards. As far as I know, it hasn't been on TV at all since it ended in 2002.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 8, 2023 1:39:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Home Improvement came straight to mind. It beat Seinfeld in the ratings when they went head to head, but no one remembers it. No one references it, except maybe "I don't think so, Tim", which you can say and have a 50/50 shot at best of the person knowing the reference.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 8, 2023 6:33:22 GMT -5
The only thing anyone remembers News Radio for is the tragedy of Phil Hartman.
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Post by Spider2024 on May 8, 2023 7:01:40 GMT -5
Glee.
Like it was a gigantic success, a straight-up phenomenon even. Now it's almost never even referenced. (The actual show at least. Some of the actors on the show are still famous, Jane Lynch and Lea Michele mostly.) You never even see clips of it anywhere, much less full episodes, although the fact that it used a lot of licensed music during its run is likely the big reason why.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 8, 2023 7:45:06 GMT -5
The only thing anyone remembers News Radio for is the tragedy of Phil Hartman. Dont be silly. People also remember it recently thanks to that picture of Scott Adams, Joe Rogan, and Andy Dick.
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Post by tirtefaa on May 8, 2023 7:58:57 GMT -5
Murphy Brown is another one. The ending of The Simpsons episode Selma's Choice was a direct parody of a popular Murphy Brown episode that no one remembers.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 8, 2023 8:11:08 GMT -5
Is ER aired anywhere? That was the biggest show in the country at one point
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Post by thechase on May 8, 2023 8:33:57 GMT -5
Glee. Like it was a gigantic success, a straight-up phenomenon even. Now it's almost never even referenced. The press remembered it existed when they announced one of it's stars had been cast in Doctor Who this past week
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Post by James Fabiano on May 8, 2023 8:37:57 GMT -5
Glee. Like it was a gigantic success, a straight-up phenomenon even. Now it's almost never even referenced. (The actual show at least. Some of the actors on the show are still famous, Jane Lynch and Lea Michele mostly.) You never even see clips of it anywhere, much less full episodes, although the fact that it used a lot of licensed music during its run is likely the big reason why. That's probably why. Wasn't that the trouble with Ally McBeal too? Maybe Murphy Brown (I seem to remember the two shows had trouble in the DVD era because of rights issues...) Mind you, I don't mind leaving Gleemania behind. As for Home Improvement, is it because Tim Allen can be abrasive these days to certain people?
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 8, 2023 8:39:30 GMT -5
Empty Nest was never a huge hit, but The Golden Girls spin-off was popular enough to go seven seasons and 170 episodes. You'd think a relatively family-friendly show with that kind of catalogue would at least be filler on some streaming service or novelty cable channel somewhere, but no, it's no where to be found beyond YouTube rips.
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Post by karl100589 on May 8, 2023 9:06:26 GMT -5
Britain had quite a few of these. London's Burning and Soldier Soldier were two of the biggest shows in the UK when they first aired. Hardly anyone speaks about them these days.
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Post by wildojinx on May 8, 2023 9:24:12 GMT -5
The Drew Carey Show. Huge in its day, yet it rarely gets rerun and due to the licensed music used in there, there's no chance of it streaming or any further dvd releases past season 1.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 8, 2023 9:30:02 GMT -5
Britain had quite a few of these. London's Burning and Soldier Soldier were two of the biggest shows in the UK when they first aired. Hardly anyone speaks about them these days. The Bill ran for over 2400 episodez from 1984-2010, with spinoffs, specials and so on, yet nobody references it.
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Post by James Fabiano on May 8, 2023 9:31:02 GMT -5
It gets a fair shake on MeTV and the like, but Happy Days otherwise hasn't had it easy. Not complete on DVD nor streaming, IIRC.
Life Goes On. Only one season on DVD and I don't think it's streaming/common in reruns at all.
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Post by cjh on May 8, 2023 9:34:08 GMT -5
Glee. Like it was a gigantic success, a straight-up phenomenon even. Now it's almost never even referenced. (The actual show at least. Some of the actors on the show are still famous, Jane Lynch and Lea Michele mostly.) You never even see clips of it anywhere, much less full episodes, although the fact that it used a lot of licensed music during its run is likely the big reason why. Glee is on both Disney+ and Hulu. I don't know if it was ever syndicated on linear TV, though.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 8, 2023 9:34:15 GMT -5
Murphy Brown is another one. The ending of The Simpsons episode Selma's Choice was a direct parody of a popular Murphy Brown episode that no one remembers. They even brought Murphy Brown back and it was canned after one season because there was zero interest There's a great video about why Murphy Brown just faded into nostalgia obscurity and why it doesn't hold up
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 8, 2023 9:39:54 GMT -5
Gonna do this a little differently
1. The shows where a star went on to a more iconic show: Car 54, Where Are You? & The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis are example of this. Maybe 1/100 would primarily identify Fred Gwynne & Bob Denver with those shows.
2. The other genre show: Lost in Space had a healthy run in the 60s, Chicago Hope was an Emmy winning show in the 90s. Neither was the one that eventually captured the culture.
3. The forgotten genre shows: Columbo came up in the other thead but how often do you see the other 70s detective shows that were so popular? Kojak? Mannix? Barnaby Jones? It's a genre thet was popular for 15 years or so and then went away almost completely.
4. The groundbreakers: The Man from U.N.C.L.E - I Spy were ground breaking in their pairings. The Man.. with an American & a Soviet working together, I Spy with a white man working with & for a black man. In addition to both being dated The cold war made the first trite & the later also suffers from the Cosby problem.
5. The shows they were just there: Home Improvement did beat Seinfeld. But many other sitcoms it was always just kind of there. It had a formula that worked and it made them money. But it wasn't genre busting the way Seinfeld was. It wasn't a water cooler show. And there were so many more of those shows on the 90s. Wings, Just Shoot Me, Caroline in the City. All just kinda there.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 8, 2023 11:53:36 GMT -5
It gets a fair shake on MeTV and the like, but Happy Days otherwise hasn't had it easy. Not complete on DVD nor streaming, IIRC. I don't know, where I grew up it was a staple in syndicated reruns on local television throughout the 90's and 2000's. Although only the first seven seasons. The later stuff, after Ron Howard left the show and the focus shifted to Joannie and Chachi, was almost never re-aired. The show would basically go to the point where Arnold's would burn down and then loop back to season one.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 8, 2023 11:54:21 GMT -5
The only thing anyone remembers News Radio for is the tragedy of Phil Hartman. Dont be silly. People also remember it recently thanks to that picture of Scott Adams, Joe Rogan, and Andy Dick. That show really was cursed
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