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Post by bluebeach25 on May 14, 2023 6:28:04 GMT -5
This will easly go down as the worst booking in the PG Era. Worst Matchoutcome in WWE for me!
Nexus had so much hype and was like the hottest thing in Years only to be buried at Summerslam 2010! Cena knew himself it was msitake according to Edge & Jericho who tried to convince him before the Event that it would be wrong.
So let's just see what happened with all the members later on (New Nexus with Cm Punk as the leader not included)
Wade Barrett - Went from a potential Main Eventer in 2010 to Bad News Barrett and never went huge like should have.
Ryback - still had one of the most impact of all the memembers which is a bit crazy to think about. Headlined some PPV's with Punk and even Cena involved in 2012. Crowd loved him but once he got turned Heel he was never the same. Bad Booking
Daniel Bryan - Idk if i would count him because he was out at night one. So i don't see Bryan as a legit member of Nexus in retrospect.
David Otunga - Ok he never had that much Main Event talent to begin with and should have been high up.
Micheal Tarver - same story
Heath Slater - Had potential (not Main Event but IC title level mabye) and had his time with 3Mb later on but yeah...
Justin Gabriel - Great talent but never made it either.
Darren Young - had his Run with Titus O Neil as the Tag Team Champs.
So yeah i agree with many that say the memebers weren't huge Main Event Potential to begin with have a point but still... them all as a group felt legit and great.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on May 14, 2023 6:56:18 GMT -5
Team WWE beating Nexus at SummerSlam could have been salvaged if Cena hadn’t been destroyed and DDT’d on concrete before eliminating Gabriel and Barrett in two mins.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 14, 2023 7:25:29 GMT -5
Barrett being the 'best shot' for a main eventer in that group at the time was rough because he was not ready at all, but the group still had legs as a unit that got completely demolished that night. Unbelievably short-sighted booking decisions that I can't even really trace the logic of. I know someone (Jericho maybe?) has said that afterward Cena copped to it being a bad idea but I don't know where the actual good idea is n how that match went. What's the other side of that coin?
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on May 14, 2023 9:26:36 GMT -5
Well at least Darren Young was good enough to be mentioned twice by the OP.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 14, 2023 9:53:38 GMT -5
Barrett being the 'best shot' for a main eventer in that group at the time was rough because he was not ready at all, but the group still had legs as a unit that got completely demolished that night. Unbelievably short-sighted booking decisions that I can't even really trace the logic of. I know someone (Jericho maybe?) has said that afterward Cena copped to it being a bad idea but I don't know where the actual good idea is n how that match went. What's the other side of that coin? Jericho and Edge both confirmed that they both told Cena the spot was a bad idea that would make the Nexus look weak and also make crowd turn on Cena more. But also yeah the Nexus well really the first two seasons of NXT are cited as reasons as to why Triple H was given control over developmental down the road. Basically the first 2 seasons they used who were considered the top prospects in FCW and they learned real quick that nobody was anywhere near ready for a tv spot.
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Post by bluebeach25 on May 14, 2023 10:26:05 GMT -5
Well at least Darren Young was good enough to be mentioned twice by the OP. i meant David Otunga
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Post by Jindrak Mark on May 14, 2023 11:52:43 GMT -5
Barrett being the 'best shot' for a main eventer in that group at the time was rough because he was not ready at all, but the group still had legs as a unit that got completely demolished that night. Unbelievably short-sighted booking decisions that I can't even really trace the logic of. I know someone (Jericho maybe?) has said that afterward Cena copped to it being a bad idea but I don't know where the actual good idea is n how that match went. What's the other side of that coin? Yeah I don't know what the solution was. Them losing to a ragtag group of guys hurts their image as this solid unit who might not be as good or experienced but can work together better to take you out. On the other hand though a Nexus win would have killed the crowd. This wasn't Shield or Bloodline were even if the heel wins you usually get a banger match out of it. A decade later it's easy to just remember the big moments like the initial beatdown, Summerslam or "fetch me some watah, Cener" but on a week to week basis the Nexus were doing these robotic group beatdowns that stopped being exciting like 3 weeks in. They destroyed the roster on their debut, they made Cena lose the title at Fatal 4 Way, they cost him the title again at MITB and all the weekly beatdowns in between. If they won at Summerslam were do you go? You could give Barrett the title and try stretch it to Wrestlemania but I don't think he was good enough at the time for that. He literally only worked well with Cena but if you're putting the title on him and keeping them separate all the way till Mania I don't see how Barrett pulls that off. Those 2 PPV main events with Orton were diabolically bad and even when he faced great veterans like Edge and Jericho the crowd just died for his matches. Maybe you have Barrett win the title at NOC and drop it to Cena at Survivor Series but I don't think Nexus had the talent to go all the way to Wrestlemania and even if they did the perfect ending to the story then it would have been overshadowed by Rock like Miz was.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on May 14, 2023 11:58:58 GMT -5
Eh, they were a hot act but credit to the likes of Jericho, Edge and Cena for getting a bunch of Grogu green newbies over as threats in such a short period of time. It did have more legs to it and they really knocked it out of the park with their early presentation (not to mention cool t-shirts), but none of them (Bryan excluded obvs) were even ready for a featured midcard spot let alone the main.
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Post by XIII on May 14, 2023 12:01:00 GMT -5
Their debut was legit AF. A genuine feeling of true chaos which is rare. Then Vince funkyf***ed the football the rest of the way.
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on May 14, 2023 13:11:32 GMT -5
Barrett being the 'best shot' for a main eventer in that group at the time was rough because he was not ready at all, but the group still had legs as a unit that got completely demolished that night. Unbelievably short-sighted booking decisions that I can't even really trace the logic of. I know someone (Jericho maybe?) has said that afterward Cena copped to it being a bad idea but I don't know where the actual good idea is n how that match went. What's the other side of that coin? Yeah I don't know what the solution was. Them losing to a ragtag group of guys hurts their image as this solid unit who might not be as good or experienced but can work together better to take you out. On the other hand though a Nexus win would have killed the crowd. This wasn't Shield or Bloodline were even if the heel wins you usually get a banger match out of it. A decade later it's easy to just remember the big moments like the initial beatdown, Summerslam or "fetch me some watah, Cener" but on a week to week basis the Nexus were doing these robotic group beatdowns that stopped being exciting like 3 weeks in. They destroyed the roster on their debut, they made Cena lose the title at Fatal 4 Way, they cost him the title again at MITB and all the weekly beatdowns in between. If they won at Summerslam were do you go? Nexus working better together than alone echoed their real development and the audience knowing that is why it had their buy-in. Seeing all these new faces in a prominent position was fresh and the audience was willing to forgive missteps from them because the larger story was captivating. Summerslam up until the ridiculous finish was worked great by everyone and had the crowd into it - it also had Bret's last hurrah where he got to actually work as a nice touch. Bryan returning was a tremendous twist, but I felt then and now that match should've gone to Nexus (especially after Miz returned to ruin it out of jealousy). Not only would the win have given them a better reason to get title shots (whether they were successful or not) but the story of them being a united front panning out would've forced Cena and co. to regroup and come back at Survivor Series. It also would've given more weight to Cena/Miz once they came back to it - Cena as the guy who had stood up for the locker room/company and Miz as the guy who only looked after himself regardless of the costs.
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Post by darbus alan on May 14, 2023 16:29:29 GMT -5
Fred Rosser (former Darren Young) was killing it in NJPW as the NJPW Strong Openweight Champ. It's nice seeing him have a career resurrection after how his WWE run fizzled out.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 14, 2023 16:31:03 GMT -5
One thing I always wondered was if Desmond Wolfe (Nigel McGuinness) had passed his medical and was given the role that Barrett had - would things have worked out differently?
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Post by XIII on May 14, 2023 16:38:26 GMT -5
One thing I always wondered was if Desmond Wolfe (Nigel McGuinness) had passed his medical and was given the role that Barrett had - would things have worked out differently? If anything it would have probably been worse. Barrett is a pretty big guy and from the WWE system and this was during the era of Vince thinking that “Indy wrestlers are all losers and their fans don’t know anything” Punk was getting a push and Bryan had jobbed to pretty much everyone before getting fired for murdering the ring announcer.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 14, 2023 20:01:17 GMT -5
It really can’t be overstated how green Barrett was and he was head and shoulders above everyone else in the group.
Solo main event title matches with Barrett? Jesus Christ, no thank you. Cena was the only guy to get anything out of him back then
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on May 14, 2023 20:03:04 GMT -5
It really can’t be overstated how green Barrett was and he was head and shoulders above everyone else in the group. Solo main event title matches with Barrett? Jesus Christ, no thank you. Cena was the only guy to get anything out of him back then Also Wasteland might be my least favorite top heel finish to ever exist. Dude literally went AAAAAA and gently threw dudes down. The time that he almost killed Mark Henry when they both tipped over is like the best it ever looked.
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Post by Fade on May 14, 2023 20:10:11 GMT -5
Man, Nexus was hot. Imagine if D Bry had stuck around. In a post-jinder world, I say f*** it, give Barrett a short reign. I rewatch their debut every now and then and then go down the rabbit hole of segments. The unsung thing? They made Cena look great. Maybe I’m going crazy but I remember him getting cheered-cheered during their stuff. The dynamic with Orton was dope too.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 14, 2023 20:33:11 GMT -5
It really can’t be overstated how green Barrett was and he was head and shoulders above everyone else in the group. Solo main event title matches with Barrett? Jesus Christ, no thank you. Cena was the only guy to get anything out of him back then Also Wasteland might be my least favorite top heel finish to ever exist. Dude literally went AAAAAA and gently threw dudes down. The time that he almost killed Mark Henry when they both tipped over is like the best it ever looked. It looked like Wade tore his body from neck to ankle doing that shit.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on May 14, 2023 20:42:38 GMT -5
Also Wasteland might be my least favorite top heel finish to ever exist. Dude literally went AAAAAA and gently threw dudes down. The time that he almost killed Mark Henry when they both tipped over is like the best it ever looked. It looked like Wade tore his body from neck to ankle doing that shit. The fact that dude just stopped doing it unless he needed a false finish after returning from injury makes me think it literally did 💀
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 14, 2023 20:47:21 GMT -5
It looked like Wade tore his body from neck to ankle doing that shit. The fact that dude just stopped doing it unless he needed a false finish after returning from injury makes me think it literally did 💀 Hmmm a running elbow where the big spot is turning my elbow pad inside out so it's red. That's the ticket.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on May 14, 2023 21:43:15 GMT -5
It was probably a bit too early for heel Bryan but if tiegate hadn’t happened then he’d have worked most of the matches with Barrett used as mouthpiece and interference runner - things would have probably worked out differently.
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