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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Jun 2, 2023 9:42:17 GMT -5
Think if the who’s side is he on was Jay White and not Takeshita. I actually don’t think that would have worked near as well, personally. The classic “whose side is he on?” is premised on the person being a beloved babyface. Even in his limited AEW exposure, Jay White is a big ole violent douche who would fit right in with Callis and Moxley. Our innocent, naive, cinnamon roll-lovin’ babyface becoming evil was much more impactful, I think. That said, I do think that Switchblade should make it to that level of storyline ASAP for me to put the stamp of approval on his run.
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Post by clifford on Jun 2, 2023 9:45:41 GMT -5
Kind of wish they wouldn't have gone right back to "Bullet Club" with him, but at least the most recent promo with Juice was good. The thing about Jay is like...he'll make this work. Yeah its stupid they went right back to Bullet Club with him and he's been given so little to play with...but he'll make it work, he'll bring people around on this. It might take a while, but the dude is so talented and good at what he does that it's going to turn out fine.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 2, 2023 9:53:15 GMT -5
Kind of wish they wouldn't have gone right back to "Bullet Club" with him, but at least the most recent promo with Juice was good. The thing about Jay is like...he'll make this work. Yeah its stupid they went right back to Bullet Club with him and he's been given so little to play with...but he'll make it work, he'll bring people around on this. It might take a while, but the dude is so talented and good at what he does that it's going to turn out fine. I never put this on Jay's head. This is on Tony and co. Besides, I didn't say he was ruined, I'm just saying I would have liked to see him do something unrelated to Bullet Club.
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Post by clifford on Jun 2, 2023 10:10:44 GMT -5
The thing about Jay is like...he'll make this work. Yeah its stupid they went right back to Bullet Club with him and he's been given so little to play with...but he'll make it work, he'll bring people around on this. It might take a while, but the dude is so talented and good at what he does that it's going to turn out fine. I never put this on Jay's head. This is on Tony and co. Besides, I didn't say he was ruined, I'm just saying I would have liked to see him do something unrelated to Bullet Club. Oh I completely agree, there was so many better ways to go about Jay White debuting in AEW...I'm just saying that cause it's Jay, he'll make it work.
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Post by Fade on Jun 2, 2023 10:28:26 GMT -5
Average or below. f***ing sad, dudes one of my top 5 in the world, and I just instantly almost didn’t dare. Follow through is important. Presentation is important.
At least it seems like fans are sticking with him. BCG absolutely needs another member (or members) too.
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Post by ace on Jun 2, 2023 12:38:07 GMT -5
Lol someone voting perfect. They must really hate Jay White.
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Post by Fade on Jun 2, 2023 18:47:54 GMT -5
Lol someone voting perfect. They must really hate Jay White. GET OFF THE BOARD TONY
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Post by dynamitekidd on Jun 3, 2023 21:26:37 GMT -5
On one had, I enjoyed the stuff with Ricky. And I really liked the stuff with Juice and FTR.
On the other hand, I’ve heard so much about how awesome he is and how much of a big deal he is, and he hasn’t felt like that at all.
Voted fair.
Probably not fair to the guy that I’m basing a lot of that on stuff I’ve heard etc, but life’s not always fair. I hope he becomes that guy I’ve heard about in the future though.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 4, 2023 6:22:25 GMT -5
I feel like this is too soon to be asking this; with AEW's roster size only the very top talent is featured weekly, so it's hard to get a handle on new debuts until 3, even 4 months from their first appearance. Juice himself has only got going in the last couple months. Jay Lethal took months before he was on television regularly. The fact is, you can hire as many talents as you like that have legitimate main eventer potential and credibility right out of the box, but the general structure of the card can never change. Those talents will still end up falling into the parts of the show that dictate them being openers, lower carders and midcarders just by sheer necessity. Unless your main event is a 20v20 tag match that goes the full broadcast, somebody will have to not be the main event. And that’s OK… It should be, anyway.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 4, 2023 8:41:24 GMT -5
I'll say good. I think as much as people like Jay and he deserves to be pushed he came in at a weird time. But he and Juice have great chemistry and amuse me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 10:36:41 GMT -5
Coming from someone who is completely unfamiliar with his work outside of AEW, so far he feels completely forgettable and replaceable.
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Post by neilc on Jun 5, 2023 10:42:48 GMT -5
I've only heard about him and just have seen his Impact and AEW matches, so I don't have much of an opinion yet. But saddling him with the annoying anchor that is Juice Robinson is doing him no favors. That voice. I think Toni Storm is the only one glad to see him.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Jun 5, 2023 22:42:15 GMT -5
Jay's fine, I'm just much more into Juice. I'll go with average for right now.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 6, 2023 0:09:14 GMT -5
I've only heard about him and just have seen his Impact and AEW matches, so I don't have much of an opinion yet. But saddling him with the annoying anchor that is Juice Robinson is doing him no favors. That voice. I think Toni Storm is the only one glad to see him. I can tell you from the live threads that is not correct and a lot of people love Juice's role with Jay, I'm included lol
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Post by The Ichi on Jun 6, 2023 2:51:45 GMT -5
Honestly I see Juice ending up as the breakout of the two. He's way more charismatic.
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Post by eJm on Jun 6, 2023 6:11:41 GMT -5
I'll say average because it feels like it just started but I love the dynamic of BCG. The promo on Wednesday was unbelievably fun and I'm enjoying the Starks feud. Add a decent member to the group and there's a lot of upside.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 6, 2023 12:27:41 GMT -5
You're not going to get peak NJPW Jay White unless he's basically the top heel in the company. It just isn't going to hit the same in the mid-upper-midcard. MJF has that top main event heel spot locked down though so until he goes face or takes a break after losing the title I don't think Jay will be headlining.
He would have the same issue if he went to WWE. He wasn't going to be a bigger heel than Roman.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 6, 2023 13:05:56 GMT -5
You're not going to get peak NJPW Jay White unless he's basically the top heel in the company. It just isn't going to hit the same in the mid-upper-midcard. MJF has that top main event heel spot locked down though so until he goes face or takes a break after losing the title I don't think Jay will be headlining. He would have the same issue if he went to WWE. He wasn't going to be a bigger heel than Roman. True but with 2 brands, I could’ve seen Jay being the top heel on Raw. It’s kind of wide open with Balor and Gunther as the top heels.
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Post by Fade on Jun 6, 2023 13:09:00 GMT -5
You're not going to get peak NJPW Jay White unless he's basically the top heel in the company. It just isn't going to hit the same in the mid-upper-midcard. MJF has that top main event heel spot locked down though so until he goes face or takes a break after losing the title I don't think Jay will be headlining. He would have the same issue if he went to WWE. He wasn't going to be a bigger heel than Roman. True but with 2 brands, I could’ve seen Jay being the top heel on Raw. It’s kind of wide open with Balor and Gunther as the top heels. Very true. There’s room and ways for other heels to grow underneath a reigning conquering heel champ. Swerve and Jay are both in that space. And about Juice, I love Juice Robinson. I do. But dudes on Jupiter while Jay’s still on earth. Added members to BCG would/could/should help.
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Post by sportatorium on Jun 6, 2023 13:53:41 GMT -5
His run in Impact was better. When he was a FA & when signed, it was promoted (correctly) as an ex-IWGP champion and top guy from New Japan. He should be going on TV & beating JTTS in seconds and then obnoxiously calling out that nobody is in his league.
He's a better heel than MJF, so figuring they don't want their heel champ getting overshadowed or they just don't know what to do with him.
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