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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 12, 2023 4:45:56 GMT -5
Man what a brilliant catch as catch can hold for hold classic this one will be. Or s glorious trainwreck clusterf*** of blood pain and suffering. One of the two. Both are plausible. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 12, 2023 5:16:33 GMT -5
The disrespect on Goto is always crazy and YOSHI-HASHI has really been a different wrestler the last two years Yano is a night off guy like he's always been but this is probably one of his last ones. Chase Owens, yeah he can kick rocks SANADA got some heavy lifting in his block with a lot of them making their debuts in G1 Shingo is my pick for Winner with Naito being a dark horse. Shingo has just been biding his time since he lost the IWGP title so he's def due for it back tho with Ospreay back healthy I think he's the favorite since it looked like he was going to beat Okada before the injury Shingo is a strong choice. It'd also make sense given SANADA leaving LIJ and his having said Shingo's reign was in Naito's shadow, which, isn't wrong, exactly. There would be a lot of emotion to it. If SANADA won, obviously, it'd be big for SANADA to successfully defend, while Shingo would still have a G1 win under his belt. If Shingo wins, that, too, of course, would be big, and I think SANADA is here to stay in the main event, whereas Shingo's got the potential to be one of those guys who tasted the gold, only to never achieve that level again. I do not want that for him, but the potential exists. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 12, 2023 5:22:18 GMT -5
O-Khan trying to get Ospreay and Jeff Cobb to watch Hololive is something I'd have rather been present for in-person than almost any moment in wrestling history.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jun 12, 2023 6:44:12 GMT -5
Reserved tickets to go see the G1 when it comes to town. I didn't go last year because the card was so weak but it seems like they put a bit more effort into it this year, though funnily enough Goto vs Naito was on that card as well as this year's.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 12, 2023 7:57:59 GMT -5
The disrespect on Goto is always crazy and YOSHI-HASHI has really been a different wrestler the last two years Yano is a night off guy like he's always been but this is probably one of his last ones. Chase Owens, yeah he can kick rocks SANADA got some heavy lifting in his block with a lot of them making their debuts in G1 Shingo is my pick for Winner with Naito being a dark horse. Shingo has just been biding his time since he lost the IWGP title so he's def due for it back tho with Ospreay back healthy I think he's the favorite since it looked like he was going to beat Okada before the injury Shingo is a strong choice. It'd also make sense given SANADA leaving LIJ and his having said Shingo's reign was in Naito's shadow, which, isn't wrong, exactly. There would be a lot of emotion to it. If SANADA won, obviously, it'd be big for SANADA to successfully defend, while Shingo would still have a G1 win under his belt. If Shingo wins, that, too, of course, would be big, and I think SANADA is here to stay in the main event, whereas Shingo's got the potential to be one of those guys who tasted the gold, only to never achieve that level again. I do not want that for him, but the potential exists. Shingo Vs SANADA at WK would be a great matchup. No one would thought Shingo would main event 2 WKs and SANADA always had potential to do it until he finally got out in position to do so I could also see Naito winning the G1 to really put over SANADA in the main event as well if they wanted to go that route and Shingo winning the cup being in play. Ospreay is a favorite but the injury may have f**ed him up again. I think they might have a ceiling on him where he probably beats Omega for the US title but he holds it and defends against Okada at WK. Aussie Open going to AEW could have a direct impact on Ospreay |
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Post by chrom on Jun 12, 2023 20:18:15 GMT -5
Narita and Umino went at it yesterday during the live event.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 12, 2023 23:07:57 GMT -5
Interesting note to keep in mind if we are expecting Okada to not win the G1 or be involved with the title at all
He has been involved in every title decision win or lose the last two years since Ospreay beat Ibushi at Sakura Genesis 2021
Shingo beat Okada to crown the new champion at Dominion 2021
Okada beat Shingo WK Night 1 2022
Jay White beat Okada Dominion 2022
Okada beat Jay White WK 2023
SANADA beat Okada Sakura Genesis 2023
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Post by chrom on Jun 13, 2023 12:20:16 GMT -5
The betting odds have Sanada, Finlay, Sabre and Okada as favorites to win their blocks.
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Post by discoelysium on Jun 13, 2023 15:55:34 GMT -5
Whilst I've really enjoyed SANADA since he joined the burger lads, I'm just not feeling him main eventing Wrestle Kingdom. But tbh there isn't exactly an obvious 'hot' match that could main (except maybe Okada Vs Kiyomiya) so you could do it.
Definitely don't feel or understand the rumours of Sabre winning. I love Sabre inring but he's not a main event WK guy to me. But who knows maybe I'll be surprised.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jun 14, 2023 1:41:38 GMT -5
Whilst I've really enjoyed SANADA since he joined the burger lads, I'm just not feeling him main eventing Wrestle Kingdom. But tbh there isn't exactly an obvious 'hot' match that could main (except maybe Okada Vs Kiyomiya) so you could do it. Definitely don't feel or understand the rumours of Sabre winning. I love Sabre inring but he's not a main event WK guy to me. But who knows maybe I'll be surprised. When it comes to ZSJ, I think there's a sentimental/emotional hook behind him. He was the top gaijin to power through the pandemic in Japan, so I think some people expect he'll get a main event push as a thank you. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2023 2:14:52 GMT -5
Whilst I've really enjoyed SANADA since he joined the burger lads, I'm just not feeling him main eventing Wrestle Kingdom. But tbh there isn't exactly an obvious 'hot' match that could main (except maybe Okada Vs Kiyomiya) so you could do it. Definitely don't feel or understand the rumours of Sabre winning. I love Sabre inring but he's not a main event WK guy to me. But who knows maybe I'll be surprised. When it comes to ZSJ, I think there's a sentimental/emotional hook behind him. He was the top gaijin to power through the pandemic in Japan, so I think some people expect he'll get a main event push as a thank you. Sure, but I think it's also one of those things where he has earned that kind of consideration to a degree, with credible, legitimate wins over many of the top guys in G1 tournaments. My stance is that his time will come, but not quite yet. Right now, the TV title is something he will be focusing on, and given he's had 10 defenses in less than half a year already, it's obvious they're having him be a fighting champion. Come this time next year, I could see him getting the big push if he builds up momentum. It also probably doesn't hurt that he's been something of a rival to SANADA in the past, and SANADA obviously made the leap. It doesn't mean Sabre for sure will, but I think the potential is there. |
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Post by ANuclearError on Jun 14, 2023 10:05:16 GMT -5
Interesting little fact, the next IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team champions will be the 100th champions.
As such, one user on r/njpw had the interesting thought of Okada & Tana being those 100th champions. Would certainly be a big occasion for them at the Tokyo Dome if they're not challenging for singles belts.
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Jun 14, 2023 10:09:52 GMT -5
Whilst I've really enjoyed SANADA since he joined the burger lads, I'm just not feeling him main eventing Wrestle Kingdom. But tbh there isn't exactly an obvious 'hot' match that could main (except maybe Okada Vs Kiyomiya) so you could do it. Definitely don't feel or understand the rumours of Sabre winning. I love Sabre inring but he's not a main event WK guy to me. But who knows maybe I'll be surprised. Yeah, the only way that I see SANADA main eventing the Dome is if he's against Naito or Okada or if the undercard is stacked. And I mean Omega/Okada rematch-levels of stacked. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2023 14:49:47 GMT -5
Interesting little fact, the next IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team champions will be the 100th champions. As such, one user on r/njpw had the interesting thought of Okada & Tana being those 100th champions. Would certainly be a big occasion for them at the Tokyo Dome if they're not challenging for singles belts. It'd also further the story of "Okada insists on teaming with Tanahashi despite CHAOS mainstays being uncomfortable with it." |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 14, 2023 18:05:09 GMT -5
Interesting little fact, the next IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team champions will be the 100th champions. As such, one user on r/njpw had the interesting thought of Okada & Tana being those 100th champions. Would certainly be a big occasion for them at the Tokyo Dome if they're not challenging for singles belts. It'd also further the story of "Okada insists on teaming with Tanahashi despite CHAOS mainstays being uncomfortable with it." He's finally won a title outside of the IWGP World title so why not in regards to Okada plus could play up emotional angle between him and YOSHI-HASHI |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 14, 2023 18:34:31 GMT -5
When it comes to ZSJ, I think there's a sentimental/emotional hook behind him. He was the top gaijin to power through the pandemic in Japan, so I think some people expect he'll get a main event push as a thank you. Sure, but I think it's also one of those things where he has earned that kind of consideration to a degree, with credible, legitimate wins over many of the top guys in G1 tournaments. My stance is that his time will come, but not quite yet. Right now, the TV title is something he will be focusing on, and given he's had 10 defenses in less than half a year already, it's obvious they're having him be a fighting champion. Come this time next year, I could see him getting the big push if he builds up momentum. It also probably doesn't hurt that he's been something of a rival to SANADA in the past, and SANADA obviously made the leap. It doesn't mean Sabre for sure will, but I think the potential is there. While I think ZSJ is _much_ improved over where he was before, I dunno. TMDK doesn't really do much for me as a concept. It's hard to wash the stink of the Slapjack gimmick, and TM-61 flaming out hard in NXT, off of the stable. Especially after JONAH returned to Papa H. I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but ZSJ deserves a better stable than he's got. I'd like to see an excursion returnee become his protege at some point. |
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Post by chrom on Jun 14, 2023 18:40:41 GMT -5
Sure, but I think it's also one of those things where he has earned that kind of consideration to a degree, with credible, legitimate wins over many of the top guys in G1 tournaments. My stance is that his time will come, but not quite yet. Right now, the TV title is something he will be focusing on, and given he's had 10 defenses in less than half a year already, it's obvious they're having him be a fighting champion. Come this time next year, I could see him getting the big push if he builds up momentum. It also probably doesn't hurt that he's been something of a rival to SANADA in the past, and SANADA obviously made the leap. It doesn't mean Sabre for sure will, but I think the potential is there. While I think ZSJ is _much_ improved over where he was before, I dunno. TMDK doesn't really do much for me as a concept. It's hard to wash the stink of the Slapjack gimmick, and TM-61 flaming out hard in NXT, off of the stable. Especially after JONAH returned to Papa H. I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but ZSJ deserves a better stable than he's got. I'd like to see an excursion returnee become his protege at some point. He's got Fujita as his protege |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2023 18:59:36 GMT -5
Sure, but I think it's also one of those things where he has earned that kind of consideration to a degree, with credible, legitimate wins over many of the top guys in G1 tournaments. My stance is that his time will come, but not quite yet. Right now, the TV title is something he will be focusing on, and given he's had 10 defenses in less than half a year already, it's obvious they're having him be a fighting champion. Come this time next year, I could see him getting the big push if he builds up momentum. It also probably doesn't hurt that he's been something of a rival to SANADA in the past, and SANADA obviously made the leap. It doesn't mean Sabre for sure will, but I think the potential is there. While I think ZSJ is _much_ improved over where he was before, I dunno. TMDK doesn't really do much for me as a concept. It's hard to wash the stink of the Slapjack gimmick, and TM-61 flaming out hard in NXT, off of the stable. Especially after JONAH returned to Papa H. I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but ZSJ deserves a better stable than he's got. I'd like to see an excursion returnee become his protege at some point. Hopefully, Eagles joining will help matters, and Kosei as group young boy, since yeah, TMDK outside of Zack himself have like no momentum. |
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Post by Fundertaker on Jun 15, 2023 4:23:52 GMT -5
Sure, but I think it's also one of those things where he has earned that kind of consideration to a degree, with credible, legitimate wins over many of the top guys in G1 tournaments. My stance is that his time will come, but not quite yet. Right now, the TV title is something he will be focusing on, and given he's had 10 defenses in less than half a year already, it's obvious they're having him be a fighting champion. Come this time next year, I could see him getting the big push if he builds up momentum. It also probably doesn't hurt that he's been something of a rival to SANADA in the past, and SANADA obviously made the leap. It doesn't mean Sabre for sure will, but I think the potential is there. While I think ZSJ is _much_ improved over where he was before, I dunno. TMDK doesn't really do much for me as a concept. It's hard to wash the stink of the Slapjack gimmick, and TM-61 flaming out hard in NXT, off of the stable. Especially after JONAH returned to Papa H. I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but ZSJ deserves a better stable than he's got. I'd like to see an excursion returnee become his protege at some point. On the other hand, TMDK the tag-team are one of the best tag-teams in the world, are over with the Japanese crowds and can be slotted as champions at any time and no one would bat an eye (especially after the WTL last year). You may not have liked their fed stay (fair enough) but those guys are on a different wavelength in Japan. So... yeah, TMDK are fine at the moment, and will have many moments of glory in future. |
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jun 15, 2023 11:06:25 GMT -5
Eugene Blast will win the Gene-1 and triumph at WK. Just facts!
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