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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 10, 2024 19:02:56 GMT -5
I suppose it was just a thought, though there's no guarantee it'd even stay on Monday either if it went to Prime, and I still think either way WWE will lose a lot of RAW Viewership but streaming data is viewed differently
I'm sure Warner's got their eyes on how all these shows might move around tbh, if Monday or Friday free up, and I think Friday is likely to, they're gonna move an AEW show somewhere, it's just a matter of where and when the WWE shows get new deals.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 10, 2024 19:03:23 GMT -5
3 words. Monday Night Football Plus, removing the NFL aspect, if Raw moves to Amazon it would more than likely still be airing live on Monday nights. So you’re still firing the first shot in a new Monday Night War and that does not seem like a good f***ing idea. I don't see RAW getting the same viewership on Prime that they would on Cable, likely a lot of people would still watch the AEW show or even watch both because they would be able to. I don't think they're gonna care about the MNF part of the year. I think if you're going off of what Collision's ceiling is on Saturdays more often then not, it should in theory be a big gain in viewership even if they'd go up again RAW on a streaming service. I don't know if they could pass it up This is of course if RAW went to Prime and stayed on Monday too, no telling if they would but it'd be interesting... Purely speculation on my part, but it wouldn’t shock me if Raw viewership on Prime quickly returned to USA levels or better. I know a lot of people who have cable specifically for watching football, or hockey, or baseball. I don’t know a soul who subscribes to cable specifically for wrestling, moving to Prime will likely give access to Raw to fans who haven’t had it in awhile. 160 million+ Prime subscribers in the US And, again, I really really don’t think moving to Monday nights opposite Raw is smart. You’re putting a target on your back challenging them head to head, they now have good reason to want your show to fail. I think WWEndeavour is gonna mostly ignore AEW, Endeavour and UFC play nice with PFL, but PFL to the best of my knowledge has never counterprogrammed UFC. Basically, if WWE counter programmed AEW into oblivion AEW’d have no one to blame but themselves for throwing the first punch.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 10, 2024 19:05:24 GMT -5
I don't see RAW getting the same viewership on Prime that they would on Cable, likely a lot of people would still watch the AEW show or even watch both because they would be able to. I don't think they're gonna care about the MNF part of the year. I think if you're going off of what Collision's ceiling is on Saturdays more often then not, it should in theory be a big gain in viewership even if they'd go up again RAW on a streaming service. I don't know if they could pass it up This is of course if RAW went to Prime and stayed on Monday too, no telling if they would but it'd be interesting... Purely speculation on my part, but it wouldn’t shock me if Raw viewership on Prime quickly returned to USA levels or better. I know a lot of people who have cable specifically for watching football, or hockey, or baseball. I don’t know a soul who subscribes to cable specifically for wrestling, moving to Prime will likely give access to Raw to fans who haven’t had it in awhile. 160 million+ Prime subscribers in the US And, again, I really really don’t think moving to Monday nights opposite Raw is smart. You’re putting a target on your back challenging them head to head, they now have good reason to want your show to fail. I think WWEndeavour is gonna mostly ignore AEW, Endeavour and UFC play nice with PFL, but PFL to the best of my knowledge has never counterprogrammed UFC. Basically, if WWE counter programmed AEW into oblivion AEW’d have no one to blame but themselves for throwing the first punch. Personally I think the more likely scenario is Smackdown moves off Friday, maybe back to a Tuesday airing, and Friday gets completely freed up for AEW to move Collision there and maybe keep Rampage at 10. Could do Dynamite too, wasn't Friday Night Dynamite an attempted trademark once? I think Collision's more likely though because Saturday's been rough for them
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 10, 2024 19:22:03 GMT -5
Purely speculation on my part, but it wouldn’t shock me if Raw viewership on Prime quickly returned to USA levels or better. I know a lot of people who have cable specifically for watching football, or hockey, or baseball. I don’t know a soul who subscribes to cable specifically for wrestling, moving to Prime will likely give access to Raw to fans who haven’t had it in awhile. 160 million+ Prime subscribers in the US And, again, I really really don’t think moving to Monday nights opposite Raw is smart. You’re putting a target on your back challenging them head to head, they now have good reason to want your show to fail. I think WWEndeavour is gonna mostly ignore AEW, Endeavour and UFC play nice with PFL, but PFL to the best of my knowledge has never counterprogrammed UFC. Basically, if WWE counter programmed AEW into oblivion AEW’d have no one to blame but themselves for throwing the first punch. Personally I think the more likely scenario is Smackdown moves off Friday, maybe back to a Tuesday airing, and Friday gets completely freed up for AEW to move Collision there and maybe keep Rampage at 10. Could do Dynamite too, wasn't Friday Night Dynamite an attempted trademark once? I think Collision's more likely though because Saturday's been rough for them That’s basically my dream scenario, SD back to Tuesdays, NXT over to Thursdays, Collision gets the Friday slot and Rampage moves to late night Saturdays
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 10, 2024 19:32:59 GMT -5
Personally I think the more likely scenario is Smackdown moves off Friday, maybe back to a Tuesday airing, and Friday gets completely freed up for AEW to move Collision there and maybe keep Rampage at 10. Could do Dynamite too, wasn't Friday Night Dynamite an attempted trademark once? I think Collision's more likely though because Saturday's been rough for them That’s basically my dream scenario, SD back to Tuesdays, NXT over to Thursdays, Collision gets the Friday slot and Rampage moves to late night Saturdays I think Thursday would be better for Smackdown. I feel like you need some space between the two main roster shows
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 10, 2024 19:35:59 GMT -5
That’s basically my dream scenario, SD back to Tuesdays, NXT over to Thursdays, Collision gets the Friday slot and Rampage moves to late night Saturdays I think Thursday would be better for Smackdown. I feel like you need some space between the two main roster shows The reason I go Tuesday for SD is purely for WWE touring logistics. It’s way easier for them to tape live Friday, house show or PLE Saturday, house show Sunday, Raw live Monday or a Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues schedule. Taping live on Monday, Thursday and every 4th Saturday is just a travel and logistics nightmare.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 10, 2024 19:43:05 GMT -5
I think Thursday would be better for Smackdown. I feel like you need some space between the two main roster shows The reason I go Tuesday for SD is purely for WWE touring logistics. It’s way easier for them to tape live Friday, house show or PLE Saturday, house show Sunday, Raw live Monday or a Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues schedule. Taping live on Monday, Thursday and every 4th Saturday is just a travel and logistics nightmare. Smackdown's aired on Tuesday before too, but the again, it's aired on Thursday as well in its lifespan if I remember right. So either one would have familiarity.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 10, 2024 19:45:50 GMT -5
The reason I go Tuesday for SD is purely for WWE touring logistics. It’s way easier for them to tape live Friday, house show or PLE Saturday, house show Sunday, Raw live Monday or a Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues schedule. Taping live on Monday, Thursday and every 4th Saturday is just a travel and logistics nightmare. Smackdown's aired on Tuesday before too, but the again, it's aired on Thursday as well in its lifespan if I remember right. So either one would have familiarity. Yeah, when SD moved to USA and became SDLive, WWE insisted on the move to Tuesday. Before that, it was taped on Tuesday and aired Thursday or Friday depending on the year.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Jan 10, 2024 20:11:35 GMT -5
Purely speculation on my part, but it wouldn’t shock me if Raw viewership on Prime quickly returned to USA levels or better. I know a lot of people who have cable specifically for watching football, or hockey, or baseball. I don’t know a soul who subscribes to cable specifically for wrestling, moving to Prime will likely give access to Raw to fans who haven’t had it in awhile. 160 million+ Prime subscribers in the US And, again, I really really don’t think moving to Monday nights opposite Raw is smart. You’re putting a target on your back challenging them head to head, they now have good reason to want your show to fail. I think WWEndeavour is gonna mostly ignore AEW, Endeavour and UFC play nice with PFL, but PFL to the best of my knowledge has never counterprogrammed UFC. Basically, if WWE counter programmed AEW into oblivion AEW’d have no one to blame but themselves for throwing the first punch. Personally I think the more likely scenario is Smackdown moves off Friday, maybe back to a Tuesday airing, and Friday gets completely freed up for AEW to move Collision there and maybe keep Rampage at 10. Could do Dynamite too, wasn't Friday Night Dynamite an attempted trademark once? I think Collision's more likely though because Saturday's been rough for them Tuesday Night Dynamite, actually. Wordmark TUESDAY NIGHT DYNAMITE Status DEAD ABANDONED Goods & services (ABANDONED) IC 018: Backpacks; luggage, barrel bags, beach bags,... Class 018, 021, 025, 038, 041, 009, 016, 028, 035 Serial 88182072 Owners All Elite Wrestling, LLC (LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY; DELAWARE, USA)
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 10, 2024 20:12:57 GMT -5
Personally I think the more likely scenario is Smackdown moves off Friday, maybe back to a Tuesday airing, and Friday gets completely freed up for AEW to move Collision there and maybe keep Rampage at 10. Could do Dynamite too, wasn't Friday Night Dynamite an attempted trademark once? I think Collision's more likely though because Saturday's been rough for them Tuesday Night Dynamite, actually. Wordmark TUESDAY NIGHT DYNAMITE Status DEAD ABANDONED Goods & services (ABANDONED) IC 018: Backpacks; luggage, barrel bags, beach bags,... Class 018, 021, 025, 038, 041, 009, 016, 028, 035 Serial 88182072 Owners All Elite Wrestling, LLC (LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY; DELAWARE, USA) I guess this could also be revived then, who knows lol
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jan 10, 2024 20:13:17 GMT -5
The reason I go Tuesday for SD is purely for WWE touring logistics. It’s way easier for them to tape live Friday, house show or PLE Saturday, house show Sunday, Raw live Monday or a Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues schedule. Taping live on Monday, Thursday and every 4th Saturday is just a travel and logistics nightmare. Smackdown's aired on Tuesday before too, but the again, it's aired on Thursday as well in its lifespan if I remember right. So either one would have familiarity. Yeah I think we’re past the days where someone might go: “Huh Smackdown isn’t on TV tonight so I guess they’ve completely cancelled the show entirely” People will chase WWE wherever it goes.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 10, 2024 23:00:02 GMT -5
Smackdown's aired on Tuesday before too, but the again, it's aired on Thursday as well in its lifespan if I remember right. So either one would have familiarity. Yeah I think we’re past the days where someone might go: “Huh Smackdown isn’t on TV tonight so I guess they’ve completely cancelled the show entirely” People will chase WWE wherever it goes. I think Smackdown's audience will shrink because it's moving from Big 4 network TV back to cable. Probably around current Raw numbers which is still fine, but cord cutting is very much a thing for a reason.
Though I also think outside of some transitional pains, Raw will be fine if it goes to Amazon or another major streaming service. Because that's where the cord cutters started putting their entertainment dollars.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 10, 2024 23:40:48 GMT -5
I don’t like it. To me streaming services is a commitment in the sense that you are forfeiting being able to flick channels. I don’t want to be locked in to watching RAW without being able to see what’s going on with my local sports teams or MNF with a click of A button. I also don’t want to not watch RAW live either. Really wish they find another tv channel
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 10, 2024 23:49:49 GMT -5
Really dont want to have to subscribe to another streaming site to watch RAW, maybe I'll just keep tabs by watching the This Week in WWE show (I wonder if Amazon will allow footage from RAW to be shown on a competing service, for that matter, will the RAW eps from Amazon ever show up on Peacock/Network?).
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 11, 2024 3:21:21 GMT -5
I don’t like it. To me streaming services is a commitment in the sense that you are forfeiting being able to flick channels. I don’t want to be locked in to watching RAW without being able to see what’s going on with my local sports teams or MNF with a click of A button. I also don’t want to not watch RAW live either. Really wish they find another tv channel Well the Prime thing isn't confirmed just yet, it's just the predicted landing spot now There's a chance it still winds up on cable until they officially announce it.
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Post by mistery on Jan 11, 2024 6:49:57 GMT -5
I don’t like it. To me streaming services is a commitment in the sense that you are forfeiting being able to flick channels. I don’t want to be locked in to watching RAW without being able to see what’s going on with my local sports teams or MNF with a click of A button. I also don’t want to not watch RAW live either. Really wish they find another tv channel That's just the way of the future. As for being able to watch other stuff, that's why you either have a dual monitor set up, or put RAW or the sports game you are watching on another device like a tablet. I also don't think AEW would ever end up on Monday, just because it would end up being a conflict of interest with the NFL, which while not illegal (by League rules), is heavily frowned upon. There's a reason why Tony actively tries to avoid scheduling AEW during days that football are on if he can help it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 11, 2024 7:21:18 GMT -5
I don’t like it. To me streaming services is a commitment in the sense that you are forfeiting being able to flick channels. I don’t want to be locked in to watching RAW without being able to see what’s going on with my local sports teams or MNF with a click of A button. I also don’t want to not watch RAW live either. Really wish they find another tv channel The issue is, not enough channels really have the budget to take on what Raw is likely asking for (because I can't see after the Smackdown deal went badly to shareholders that Raw wouldn't be offered much below asking price) so it's either streaming or they hope WBD decides to not give up a share of the NBA TV rights for USA to pluck up so USA re-signs them. Neither FX or ESPN seem interested right now, TNT's a non-starter and there aren't that many networks with the same reach that would benefit Raw to be on.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 11, 2024 8:40:11 GMT -5
I don’t like it. To me streaming services is a commitment in the sense that you are forfeiting being able to flick channels. I don’t want to be locked in to watching RAW without being able to see what’s going on with my local sports teams or MNF with a click of A button. I also don’t want to not watch RAW live either. Really wish they find another tv channel That's just the way of the future. As for being able to watch other stuff, that's why you either have a dual monitor set up, or put RAW or the sports game you are watching on another device like a tablet. I also don't think AEW would ever end up on Monday, just because it would end up being a conflict of interest with the NFL, which while not illegal (by League rules), is heavily frowned upon. There's a reason why Tony actively tries to avoid scheduling AEW during days that football are on if he can help it. Yeah people keep forgetting that Tony also owns an NFL team so there's a very, very good reason that Dynamite will never move to Monday that has nothing to do with WWE at all.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 11, 2024 13:33:24 GMT -5
If you have something like a Fire stick, switching inputs is pretty much just like flipping channels between commercials. That's what I do with TNF on Prime.
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Post by JTG on Jan 23, 2024 7:31:03 GMT -5
twitter.com/WWE/status/1749771466885706104WWE, part of TKO Group Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: TKO), and Netflix (NASDAQ: NFLX) today announced a long-term partnership that will bring WWE’s flagship weekly program – Raw – to the world’s leading entertainment service. This marks a major programming shift as Raw leaves linear television for the first time since its inception 31 years ago. Beginning in January 2025, Netflix will be the exclusive new home of Raw in the U.S., Canada, U.K. and Latin America, among other territories, with additional countries and regions to be added over time. Likewise, as part of the agreement, Netflix will also become the home for all WWE shows and specials outside the U.S. as available, inclusive of Raw and WWE’s other weekly shows – SmackDown and NXT – as well as the company’s Premium Live Events, including WrestleMania, SummerSlam and Royal Rumble. WWE’s award-winning documentaries, original series and forthcoming projects will also be available on Netflix internationally beginning in 2025. “This deal is transformative,” said Mark Shapiro, TKO President and COO. “It marries the can’t-miss WWE product with Netflix’s extraordinary global reach and locks in significant and predictable economics for many years. Our partnership fundamentally alters and strengthens the media landscape, dramatically expands the reach of WWE, and brings weekly live appointment viewing to Netflix.” “We are excited to have WWE Raw, with its huge and passionate multigenerational fan base, on Netflix,” said Netflix Chief Content Officer, Bela Bajaria. “By combining our reach, recommendations, and fandom with WWE, we’ll be able to deliver more joy and value for their audiences and our members. Raw is the best of sports entertainment, blending great characters and storytelling with live action 52 weeks a year and we’re thrilled to be in this long-term partnership with WWE.” “In its relatively short history, Netflix has engineered a phenomenal track record for storytelling,” said Nick Khan, WWE President. “We believe Netflix, as one of the world’s leading entertainment brands, is the ideal long-term home for Raw’s live, loyal, and ever-growing fan base." With 1,600 episodes to date, Raw is the most iconic show in sports entertainment. Since its debut in 1993, Raw has delivered action, compelling drama and unmatched athleticism – 52 weeks a year. Blending the best of scripted content with unpredictable live entertainment, the three-hour show has helped launch the careers of Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, “Stone Cold” Steve Austin, Triple H, John Cena, Roman Reigns, Bianca Belair and Charlotte Flair.
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