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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:21:13 GMT -5
Good for Milwaukee. If they could trade every future first for Brandon Ingram, they'd be in biznass. Khris seems like he's gonna be like Eric Gordon where he's banged up every now and then. Just enough to where it's annoying. And with the way they rest Giannis and ask everything of Jrue, they need somebody to take part of that offensive load. I think Bucks most likely bring him back on a max deal BUT don't put it past Houston or Orlando to offer him a great deal and he takes it which in theory could work best for Bucks if they can work out a sign and trade and get a trade exception for him allowing them more leverage to get another player If I had to put a percentage on it, 60% chance they bring back him and Brook Lopez. In that case someone like Portis will be moved |
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Post by sfvega on Jun 21, 2023 23:21:24 GMT -5
I don't care what the contracts are. How do you get better than double the return for Marcus Smart than you do for Bradley Beal? The NBA is badly broken. The Wiz screwed themselves with the no-trade. They did, but it's not like this is the first "three nickels for a dollar" trade we've seen from the NBA. Granted, the market has had a lot of overpriced draft capital deals lately. But you don't see many other stars given away in other sports. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:22:43 GMT -5
The Wiz screwed themselves with the no-trade. They did, but it's not like this is the first "three nickels for a dollar" trade we've seen from the NBA. Granted, the market has had a lot of overpriced draft capital deals lately. But you don't see many other stars given away in other sports. In a trade market where Dejonte Murray got traded for 4 first round picks and Gobert got traded for 5, no reason you couldn't get at least 2 for Beal That trade could f***ed up the market real fast |
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Post by sfvega on Jun 21, 2023 23:25:46 GMT -5
The deal ended up being better for Washington this go around. Tyus Jones the best backup PG in the league I've just never seen it in Tyus, tbh. I think on a bad team he's just empty stats. He could be like a Fultz level starter, which is respectable and puts up dimes. But maybe the 25th best PG in the league. I mean, it's an upgrade over you know Monte Morris and whoever they had. Which was abysmal. But it's not like they have anything to build around still. If you're gonna tank with bad scouting, at least do it for a straonger draft. |
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Post by sfvega on Jun 21, 2023 23:27:42 GMT -5
They did, but it's not like this is the first "three nickels for a dollar" trade we've seen from the NBA. Granted, the market has had a lot of overpriced draft capital deals lately. But you don't see many other stars given away in other sports. In a trade market where Dejonte Murray got traded for 4 first round picks and Gobert got traded for 5, no reason you couldn't get at least 2 for Beal That trade could f***ed up the market real fast The Wiz had refused his name in trades for years with good offers, then sold him for two hot dogs. Yeah, I think it's f***ed. |
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Post by ghost on Jun 21, 2023 23:31:36 GMT -5
Middleton on a max deal sounds pretty gross, especially with the next CBA going to make it harder to add talent after you reach a certain threshold.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:33:07 GMT -5
The deal ended up being better for Washington this go around. Tyus Jones the best backup PG in the league I've just never seen it in Tyus, tbh. I think on a bad team he's just empty stats. He could be like a Fultz level starter, which is respectable and puts up dimes. But maybe the 25th best PG in the league. I mean, it's an upgrade over you know Monte Morris and whoever they had. Which was abysmal. But it's not like they have anything to build around still. If you're gonna tank with bad scouting, at least do it for a straonger draft. Which is why I said best "backup" PG in the league but he's been a respectable starter too. He's just Monte Morris but better, with those two they will never turn over the ball but they also have no one to pass the ball to. He's steady that's all you need from a backup. If he plays better since he's on a trash team he's an easy trade asset Wizards f***ed up two seasons ago not trading Beal. Not only did you pay him but you gave him a NTC. They missed out on an assload of collateral. What could been a 2-3 year rebuild has turned to 5 (if not longer) |
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Jun 21, 2023 23:33:09 GMT -5
Muscala and Gallinari are also going to The Wizards according to Boston Globe
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:34:56 GMT -5
Middleton on a max deal sounds pretty gross, especially with the next CBA going to make it harder to add talent after you reach a certain threshold. He's been steady for the Bucks, Giannis partner in crime so he has that going for him Tho i'd cut bait and try to get Giannis someone new to play with. BUT Bucks don't control their own first round draft pick until 2027 |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:36:51 GMT -5
In a trade market where Dejonte Murray got traded for 4 first round picks and Gobert got traded for 5, no reason you couldn't get at least 2 for Beal That trade could f***ed up the market real fast The Wiz had refused his name in trades for years with good offers, then sold him for two hot dogs. Yeah, I think it's f***ed. Because they believed in that I want to be here BS. He probably did for a bit but he also played the long game in wanting to get paid and not even a full season, he is traded NBA teams are going to be wanting players for cents on the dollar Wizards have f***ed the trade market with their deals. |
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Post by ghost on Jun 21, 2023 23:39:34 GMT -5
Middleton on a max deal sounds pretty gross, especially with the next CBA going to make it harder to add talent after you reach a certain threshold. He's been steady for the Bucks, Giannis partner in crime so he has that going for him Tho i'd cut bait and try to get Giannis someone new to play with. BUT Bucks don't control their own first round draft pick until 2027 Yeah he’s been steady for them and helped them win a ring, but he’s 31 and an injury risk. Paying him the max or close to it for what should be his declining years seems like it could go sideways for them, especially with the new CBA. Of course the issue is the Bucks would have to replace him if they lose him, which won’t be easy, and if Giannis says he wants him back then they have no choice. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:42:00 GMT -5
Not only is this a bad FA market, their aren't a lot of teams with money to spend
Houston, Orlando, Spurs, Utah and Det have most money to spend. Spurs only one out that last that is not going to throw big money to a FA, they probably will go after some lower level guys like Austin Reaves
Houston wants to make a splash with picks and money to spend. Orlando wants to take a next step with their young core. Spurs need to put pieces around Wemby and Johnson. Utah probably won't spend money either. Det also wants to make a splash with a new coach and young players
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 21, 2023 23:46:27 GMT -5
He's been steady for the Bucks, Giannis partner in crime so he has that going for him Tho i'd cut bait and try to get Giannis someone new to play with. BUT Bucks don't control their own first round draft pick until 2027 Yeah he’s been steady for them and helped them win a ring, but he’s 31 and an injury risk. Paying him the max or close to it for what should be his declining years seems like it could go sideways for them, especially with the new CBA. Of course the issue is the Bucks would have to replace him if they lose him, which won’t be easy, and if Giannis says he wants him back then they have no choice. Agreed but as stated they have no picks to really acquire anyone to replace him I'd let him walk as that injury scares me but 28-35 is prime years in NBA for this generation. He's a slightly old 31 but not ancient. Ideally, he would be accepting less but obviously he knows Bucks are in a tight spot and I see someone else out there paying him close to max money because they always have a team that does He only opted out to secure a bigger bag even if his AAV takes a hit. Pistons and Orlando desperate for a major move which is only thing Bucks are probably worried about |
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Post by mo on Jun 21, 2023 23:48:33 GMT -5
Damn didn’t see that one coming from the Celtics.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 22, 2023 0:33:36 GMT -5
I've just never seen it in Tyus, tbh. I think on a bad team he's just empty stats. He could be like a Fultz level starter, which is respectable and puts up dimes. But maybe the 25th best PG in the league. I mean, it's an upgrade over you know Monte Morris and whoever they had. Which was abysmal. But it's not like they have anything to build around still. If you're gonna tank with bad scouting, at least do it for a straonger draft. Which is why I said best "backup" PG in the league but he's been a respectable starter too. He's just Monte Morris but better, with those two they will never turn over the ball but they also have no one to pass the ball to. He's steady that's all you need from a backup. If he plays better since he's on a trash team he's an easy trade asset Wizards f***ed up two seasons ago not trading Beal. Not only did you pay him but you gave him a NTC. They missed out on an assload of collateral. What could been a 2-3 year rebuild has turned to 5 (if not longer) Yeah, I wasn't insinuating that you were making him out to be a star. Just saying that they still don't have any pieces to build around. And they didn't acquire any noteworthy picks. They're the Bobcats. |
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Post by sfvega on Jun 22, 2023 0:46:41 GMT -5
Not only is this a bad FA market, their aren't a lot of teams with money to spend Houston, Orlando, Spurs, Utah and Det have most money to spend. Spurs only one out that last that is not going to throw big money to a FA, they probably will go after some lower level guys like Austin Reaves Houston wants to make a splash with picks and money to spend. Orlando wants to take a next step with their young core. Spurs need to put pieces around Wemby and Johnson. Utah probably won't spend money either. Det also wants to make a splash with a new coach and young players If I'm the Spurs, I'm open for bidness with that cap space. Send your worst contracts and a couple of picks this way. Stock that pile. Last thing you want to do is LeBron or Luka it, and be competitive to your own detriment early. Add to the war chest, pick up some bums, play a little bad basketball, ease Wemby into big minutes, and rebuild the dynasty. They've got a bunch of picks, but many are lottery-protected. Swing for the fences, and all it will cost you is cap space in a growing year. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 22, 2023 1:25:57 GMT -5
So all this shit happens and we don’t get brogdon and we kept Marcus morris?
Nah. Nah. Nah. I’m gonna hit the blunt and pray to the lord, this f***ing sucks. We were almost free. Adam silver you bald headed skank fix this I beg you
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Jun 22, 2023 3:23:51 GMT -5
So I don't follow the NBA like I do MLB or NFL so maybe one of yall can explain to me why the Wizards are blowing the team up now instead of last year? Like is there another prospect coming next draft or in 25 on the Wembanyama tier of hype that they're eyeing?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 22, 2023 4:16:53 GMT -5
So I don't follow the NBA like I do MLB or NFL so maybe one of yall can explain to me why the Wizards are blowing the team up now instead of last year? Like is there another prospect coming next draft or in 25 on the Wembanyama tier of hype that they're eyeing? if we tried to understand the Washington wizards we must first understand the chemistry behind crack cocaine |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jun 22, 2023 7:06:33 GMT -5
So happy to see Smart go. Been advocating it for a couple years. For any grit and determination he brings you three a dozen times he plays hero ball and thinks he’s a superstar which he’s not.
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