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Post by Heart of fools gold on Jun 22, 2024 11:06:15 GMT -5
This would be the biggest choke in the 21st century, right? Nah 28-3 will be the 21st century gold standard for choke job
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Post by mo on Jun 22, 2024 12:33:38 GMT -5
Yeah, definitely gonna be another 28-3, Warriors blew a 3-1 lead type of deal. They’ll never live it down if they blow it Monday.
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Jun 22, 2024 13:48:11 GMT -5
So, slightly funny story: I have a family friend who's married to a guy who works in the NHL's media office. As such, he needs to attend Game 1 of the Final, and then be at any game where the Cup *might* be won, which would mean potentially having to travel between the two cities involved nearly every other day. They have kids at home, so travel for stuff like this can be tough. At the start of the playoffs I jokingly said "I'm going to laugh so hard when the Final is Edmonton vs. Florida, then it's some all-timer series where one team goes up 3-0 but it ends up going seven." Uh...whoops. Guess it's not quite as bad as I said it could get...yet. But yeah, distance-wise the worst matchup would've been Vancouver vs. Florida, but the flight between Edmonton and south Florida is actually two hours longer than flying to British Columbia. You called it!
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Post by Dead2009 on Jun 22, 2024 16:03:51 GMT -5
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Post by mo on Jun 22, 2024 16:27:33 GMT -5
Pretty much everything I’ve seen makes it seem like the state of Arizona wants absolutely nothing to do with Alex Meruelo. Sucks for Coyotes fans, but I don’t see them coming back as long as he’s running the team.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 24, 2024 12:12:36 GMT -5
So, slightly funny story: I have a family friend who's married to a guy who works in the NHL's media office. As such, he needs to attend Game 1 of the Final, and then be at any game where the Cup *might* be won, which would mean potentially having to travel between the two cities involved nearly every other day. They have kids at home, so travel for stuff like this can be tough. At the start of the playoffs I jokingly said "I'm going to laugh so hard when the Final is Edmonton vs. Florida, then it's some all-timer series where one team goes up 3-0 but it ends up going seven." Uh...whoops. Guess it's not quite as bad as I said it could get...yet. But yeah, distance-wise the worst matchup would've been Vancouver vs. Florida, but the flight between Edmonton and south Florida is actually two hours longer than flying to British Columbia. You called it! I told her I owe them a round of drinks (or three) for manifesting this.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 24, 2024 12:21:58 GMT -5
i've wanted to see what would happen tonight so badly that i felt like the weekend dragged lmao.
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Post by BRV on Jun 24, 2024 13:22:04 GMT -5
This would be the biggest choke in the 21st century, right? Here's how I'd rank the most spectacular and noteworthy chokes in American sports since the turn of the century: 1. 2004 American League Championship Series: It was the first time in MLB history that a team successfully came back from a 3-0 series deficit and the first time in any of the four major sports leagues since 1975. Add to it the amount of pressure on the Red Sox having lost to the Yankees in 2003, that it was the biggest rivalry in baseball (and in sports at the time), and that the Red Sox needed two late-inning comebacks in Games 4 and 5, and there may never be a comeback/choke quite as epic as that. 2. (if it happens) 2024 Stanley Cup Finals: Florida could very easily win tonight, rendering this all meaningless. But if the Panthers lose, blowing four consecutive games with the franchise's first Stanley Cup within grasp would be astounding. If the Panthers lose tonight - more specifically, how they lose - could vault this to no. 1. 3. (tie) 2010 NHL Eastern Conference Semifinals and 2014 Western Conference Quarterfinals: Two teams each blowing 3-0 leads, both teams losing the deciding games on their home ice. It's neck-and-neck and impossible to select one over the other. 4. Super Bowl LI: I had to rank the series chokes ahead of this game, because it's a singular game. Teams lose single games in best-of-seven series all the time, but this is easily the most historic single-game loss in recent sports memory. 5. The 2007 New York Mets: Up 7.5 games on Philadelphia with 15 to play, that had to be a gutting September for fans in Queens. HONORABLE MENTION: 2016 NBA Finals (the 73-win Warriors blow a 3-1 lead), 2018 Virginia men's basketball (first 1-seed to lose to a 16-seed), 2011 Boston Red Sox (blew a 9-game lead over the final three-plus weeks, leading to the firing of Terry Francona and the infamous "chicken and beer" fiasco).
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Post by MrElijah on Jun 24, 2024 13:34:21 GMT -5
This would be the biggest choke in the 21st century, right? Here's how I'd rank the most spectacular and noteworthy chokes in American sports since the turn of the century: 1. 2004 American League Championship Series: It was the first time in MLB history that a team successfully came back from a 3-0 series deficit and the first time in any of the four major sports leagues since 1975. Add to it the amount of pressure on the Red Sox having lost to the Yankees in 2003, that it was the biggest rivalry in baseball (and in sports at the time), and that the Red Sox needed two late-inning comebacks in Games 4 and 5, and there may never be a comeback/choke quite as epic as that. 2. (if it happens) 2024 Stanley Cup Finals: Florida could very easily win tonight, rendering this all meaningless. But if the Panthers lose, blowing four consecutive games with the franchise's first Stanley Cup within grasp would be astounding. If the Panthers lose tonight - more specifically, how they lose - could vault this to no. 1. 3. (tie) 2010 NHL Eastern Conference Semifinals and 2014 Western Conference Quarterfinals: Two teams each blowing 3-0 leads, both teams losing the deciding games on their home ice. It's neck-and-neck and impossible to select one over the other. 4. Super Bowl LI: I had to rank the series chokes ahead of this game, because it's a singular game. Teams lose single games in best-of-seven series all the time, but this is easily the most historic single-game loss in recent sports memory. 5. The 2007 New York Mets: Up 7.5 games on Philadelphia with 15 to play, that had to be a gutting September for fans in Queens. HONORABLE MENTION: 2016 NBA Finals (the 73-win Warriors blow a 3-1 lead), 2018 Virginia men's basketball (first 1-seed to lose to a 16-seed), 2011 Boston Red Sox (blew a 9-game lead over the final three-plus weeks, leading to the firing of Terry Francona and the infamous "chicken and beer" fiasco). [br As someone who watched that disaster in 2004 live, it's shit like that why baseball is so romanticized. The one team/franchise that rarely cocks up against the one they seem to f*** over at every opportunity buuuuut, they don't. The Yankees lose to the Red Sox. In spectacular fashion. In historic fashion. Also I'm surprised 0-3 comebacks has happened multiple times in Hockey.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 24, 2024 13:36:16 GMT -5
This would be the biggest choke in the 21st century, right? Here's how I'd rank the most spectacular and noteworthy chokes in American sports since the turn of the century: 1. 2004 American League Championship Series: It was the first time in MLB history that a team successfully came back from a 3-0 series deficit and the first time in any of the four major sports leagues since 1975. Add to it the amount of pressure on the Red Sox having lost to the Yankees in 2003, that it was the biggest rivalry in baseball (and in sports at the time), and that the Red Sox needed two late-inning comebacks in Games 4 and 5, and there may never be a comeback/choke quite as epic as that. 2. (if it happens) 2024 Stanley Cup Finals: Florida could very easily win tonight, rendering this all meaningless. But if the Panthers lose, blowing four consecutive games with the franchise's first Stanley Cup within grasp would be astounding. If the Panthers lose tonight - more specifically, how they lose - could vault this to no. 1. 3. (tie) 2010 NHL Eastern Conference Semifinals and 2014 Western Conference Quarterfinals: Two teams each blowing 3-0 leads, both teams losing the deciding games on their home ice. It's neck-and-neck and impossible to select one over the other. 4. Super Bowl LI: I had to rank the series chokes ahead of this game, because it's a singular game. Teams lose single games in best-of-seven series all the time, but this is easily the most historic single-game loss in recent sports memory. 5. The 2007 New York Mets: Up 7.5 games on Philadelphia with 15 to play, that had to be a gutting September for fans in Queens. HONORABLE MENTION: 2016 NBA Finals (the 73-win Warriors blow a 3-1 lead), 2018 Virginia men's basketball (first 1-seed to lose to a 16-seed), 2011 Boston Red Sox (blew a 9-game lead over the final three-plus weeks, leading to the firing of Terry Francona and the infamous "chicken and beer" fiasco). great list, only one i'd move up a bit is the '11 Sox to take the 5th spot because of just how dramatic it all was. it took Dan Johnson to kill them and is one of the best nights in baseball history
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 24, 2024 18:34:35 GMT -5
Edmonton has to lose tonight. I refuse to accept anyone but TML bringing the Cup back to Canada. I have had my heart broken too many times by hockey, I can’t back Oilers winning. And I really like that team!
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Post by The Captain on Jun 24, 2024 19:10:58 GMT -5
Either a Canadian team wins a Cup for the first time in over 30 years after being down 3-0, or the Panthers win their first ever Cup. Either way history is being made.
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Post by MrElijah on Jun 24, 2024 19:20:43 GMT -5
Is it a hot take to say that the Stanley Cup is the best Championship in Pro Sports?
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Post by DichEvans on Jun 24, 2024 19:21:58 GMT -5
Is it a hot take to say that the Stanley Cup is the best Championship in Pro Sports? It's been the most consistently used one at least. It was first awarded in 1893
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Post by schma on Jun 24, 2024 19:34:45 GMT -5
Either a Canadian team wins a Cup for the first time in over 30 years after being down 3-0, or the Panthers win their first ever Cup. Either way history is being made. I'm always happy for first time winners but I want the Canadian team to win. Still tonight is win-win for Me.
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Post by schma on Jun 24, 2024 19:35:50 GMT -5
Edmonton has to lose tonight. I refuse to accept anyone but TML bringing the Cup back to Canada. I have had my heart broken too many times by hockey, I can’t back Oilers winning. And I really like that team! The leafs won't bring home the cup until they stop being the most profitable team in the league.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 24, 2024 19:36:24 GMT -5
Edmonton has to lose tonight. I refuse to accept anyone but TML bringing the Cup back to Canada. I have had my heart broken too many times by hockey, I can’t back Oilers winning. And I really like that team! You mean you're not looking forward to everyone spending the next 15 years deifying Connor MacDavid?
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 24, 2024 20:43:02 GMT -5
Here's how I'd rank the most spectacular and noteworthy chokes in American sports since the turn of the century: 1. 2004 American League Championship Series: It was the first time in MLB history that a team successfully came back from a 3-0 series deficit and the first time in any of the four major sports leagues since 1975. Add to it the amount of pressure on the Red Sox having lost to the Yankees in 2003, that it was the biggest rivalry in baseball (and in sports at the time), and that the Red Sox needed two late-inning comebacks in Games 4 and 5, and there may never be a comeback/choke quite as epic as that. 2. (if it happens) 2024 Stanley Cup Finals: Florida could very easily win tonight, rendering this all meaningless. But if the Panthers lose, blowing four consecutive games with the franchise's first Stanley Cup within grasp would be astounding. If the Panthers lose tonight - more specifically, how they lose - could vault this to no. 1. 3. (tie) 2010 NHL Eastern Conference Semifinals and 2014 Western Conference Quarterfinals: Two teams each blowing 3-0 leads, both teams losing the deciding games on their home ice. It's neck-and-neck and impossible to select one over the other. 4. Super Bowl LI: I had to rank the series chokes ahead of this game, because it's a singular game. Teams lose single games in best-of-seven series all the time, but this is easily the most historic single-game loss in recent sports memory. 5. The 2007 New York Mets: Up 7.5 games on Philadelphia with 15 to play, that had to be a gutting September for fans in Queens. HONORABLE MENTION: 2016 NBA Finals (the 73-win Warriors blow a 3-1 lead), 2018 Virginia men's basketball (first 1-seed to lose to a 16-seed), 2011 Boston Red Sox (blew a 9-game lead over the final three-plus weeks, leading to the firing of Terry Francona and the infamous "chicken and beer" fiasco). [br As someone who watched that disaster in 2004 live, it's shit like that why baseball is so romanticized. The one team/franchise that rarely cocks up against the one they seem to f*** over at every opportunity buuuuut, they don't. The Yankees lose to the Red Sox. In spectacular fashion. In historic fashion. Also I'm surprised 0-3 comebacks has happened multiple times in Hockey. On that last point, I think it's a matter of league parity and of the nature of the sport. You don't see it happen much in MLB because of the old adage "momentum is only as strong as tomorrow's starting pitcher". A team can be roaring back and ready to take a series back from the brink, but that requires four straight starting pitchers to at least do enough to keep the team in the game, for that team's bullpen to perform strongly enough, etc. That's a lot of individualized moving parts that all need to get the job done, so pulling it off four times in a row against the same team when you're in a do or die situation against the league's best? Tall order, for sure. Hockey doesn't have this problem as much: you're putting the same players out there, barring maybe one swapped player or two, so if the club can get its lines rolling and play to its strengths it's insanely difficult but not quite AS seemingly impossible to come all the way back. More importantly, maybe, is the league's current level of parity, which is what sets it apart from the NBA. Let's face it, most NBA playoffs begin with two, *maybe* three teams that have a legit chance to win it all; the fact they have a play-in tournament now is pretty much a sick joke. The NHL, meanwhile, has built a league with more parity in it; it's not uncommon to get first round series each year that might include two clubs that could reasonably be projected to make a run at the Final. Put another way, once Boston was up 3-0 on Dallas in the NBA, and given the way they played against them, it felt impossible to imagine Dallas overcoming the talent gap, and lo and behold, they only got a one game reprieve. Meantime, the NHL has had a relative bounty (well, again, relatively speaking) of series go from 3-0 to 3-2 or 3-3 since it became a more leveled out league. AND OH MY GOD, that sequence of Edmonton being inches from scoring only for Florida to net one a second later, 2-1 Cats.
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Post by DichEvans on Jun 24, 2024 20:52:52 GMT -5
I say this as a former hockey player, the NHL season is way too long for a sport with that much physical contact. Training camp starts in just over two months
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 24, 2024 21:30:51 GMT -5
I say this as a former hockey player, the NHL season is way too long for a sport with that much physical contact. Training camp starts in just over two months God, yes; the Devils beat the Ducks in Game 7 of the 2003 Final on June 9th. In 2024, the draft is literally this week.
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