2023-24 NHL Thread: The Sun Has Risen, PANTHERS WIN

[The Rick Jericho]

Jun 24, 2024 22:10:54 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Washington, St. Louis, Vegas, and Florida, all first time Cup winners within the last decade.

And oh my God, ESPN couldn't even properly catch Barkov's initial lift of the Cup on camera properly; poetic ending to their shitty, shitty coverage.

Would not be surprised if in the next 5-7 years, Nashville, Seattle and Utah all win a Cup too.

It's Bettman's world and we are living in it.

[fw91]

Jun 24, 2024 22:10:54 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Washington, St. Louis, Vegas, and Florida, all first time Cup winners within the last decade.

And oh my God, ESPN couldn't even properly catch Barkov's initial lift of the Cup on camera properly; poetic ending to their shitty, shitty coverage.

Really wish NBC held onto the rights. They really treated the sport with class and felt privileged to have it. ABC/ESPN has it just for the sake of it.

[Allie Kitsune]

Legit, I'm super happy for Evan Rodrigues.

[sfvega]

If you're gonna give the Conn Smythe to someone, they need to have a huge series. They need to come through again and again. When they're playing wide open hockey, McDavid is the best player I've seen in the last 20 years. But when it's tight hockey, he gets left off the score sheet. Games 1 and 2, he had 1 point total. Games 6 and 7, he had 0 points total. In the last 5 games or the Vancouver series, he had 4 points and 0 points in Game 7. He did most of his damage in this series in Game 4 when it was already out of reach.

And I like McDavid and as an American, he's not overly hyped like he is in Canada. But he doesn't play noteworthy good D. He's a 1-way player who disappears in a lot of tight games. You can't give him the Conn Smythe in a loss. That is reserved for guys with great playoffs and rare air Finals. Giguere, as much as I hated him, was that guy. This is just a "He's the face of the league, let's throw him a bone."

[jm]

Jun 24, 2024 22:20:54 GMT -5 sfvega said:

If you're gonna give the Conn Smythe to someone, they need to have a huge series. They need to come through again and again. When they're playing wide open hockey, McDavid is the best player I've seen in the last 20 years. But when it's tight hockey, he gets left off the score sheet. Games 1 and 2, he had 1 point total. Games 6 and 7, he had 0 points total. In the last 5 games or the Vancouver series, he had 4 points and 0 points in Game 7. He did most of his damage in this series in Game 4 when it was already out of reach.

And I like McDavid and as an American, he's not overly hyped like he is in Canada. But he doesn't play noteworthy good D. He's a 1-way player who disappears in a lot of tight games. You can't give him the Conn Smythe in a loss. That is reserved for guys with great playoffs and rare air Finals. Giguere, as much as I hated him, was that guy. This is just a "He's the face of the league, let's throw him a bone."

Yeah giving McDavid the Conn Smythe totally reeks of "Here's a consolation price, Mr. McDavid."

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Luo gets his Cup, so that makes me happy enough.

[Allie Kitsune]

Florida is now over the Salary Cap.

With the cup win, Okposo gets his 500K bonus, putting Florida over the cap.

But I think you trade whatever the penalty is for the ring, 10 times out of 10.

[tirtefaa]

I don't follow hockey (I really should), but I am always happy when a new team regardless of who it is, wins a championship.

Congratulations, Panthers!

[Renslayer]

A NEWS DUMP WHILE THE CUP IS BEING RAISED

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Jun 24, 2024 19:36:24 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Jun 24, 2024 18:34:35 GMT -5 The Summer of Muskrat XVII said:

Edmonton has to lose tonight. I refuse to accept anyone but TML bringing the Cup back to Canada. I have had my heart broken too many times by hockey, I can’t back Oilers winning. And I really like that team!

You mean you're not looking forward to everyone spending the next 15 years deifying Connor MacDavid?

Hands down Conor McDavid is the best player I've seen since Mario. Mario is the greatest, then Conor. Gretzky was successful because he copied the euroupean game and no one was trying that yet

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Jun 24, 2024 22:25:16 GMT -5 jm said:

Jun 24, 2024 22:20:54 GMT -5 sfvega said:

If you're gonna give the Conn Smythe to someone, they need to have a huge series. They need to come through again and again. When they're playing wide open hockey, McDavid is the best player I've seen in the last 20 years. But when it's tight hockey, he gets left off the score sheet. Games 1 and 2, he had 1 point total. Games 6 and 7, he had 0 points total. In the last 5 games or the Vancouver series, he had 4 points and 0 points in Game 7. He did most of his damage in this series in Game 4 when it was already out of reach.

And I like McDavid and as an American, he's not overly hyped like he is in Canada. But he doesn't play noteworthy good D. He's a 1-way player who disappears in a lot of tight games. You can't give him the Conn Smythe in a loss. That is reserved for guys with great playoffs and rare air Finals. Giguere, as much as I hated him, was that guy. This is just a "He's the face of the league, let's throw him a bone."

Yeah giving McDavid the Conn Smythe totally reeks of "Here's a consolation price, Mr. McDavid."

thing is, who do you give it to then?

it would've been bob but the games after game 3 just completely destroyed that possibility. really was there anyone else it could have been when you factor in the point of the Conn Smythe?

[schma]

I was thinking yesterday that I don't remember the Stanley Cup playoffs going this late. I always thought of them as more April/May.

[schma]

The Panthers winning their first cup was great, though it reminded me that they started the same year (was it the same year or am I mixed up?) as the Sens who still haven't won the cup, and the Canadian drought continues. Still, I am always happy for a first time Cup winner.

[HMARK Center]

Jun 25, 2024 7:35:07 GMT -5 schma said:

The Panthers winning their first cup was great, though it reminded me that they started the same year (was it the same year or am I mixed up?) as the Sens who still haven't won the cup, and the Canadian drought continues. Still, I am always happy for a first time Cup winner.

Panthers started in '93-'94, same year as the Mighty Ducks, and both teams now have one Cup.

However! The (new) Sens began the same year as the San Jose Sharks, 1991, and neither have won it yet...which is shocking, because you go back and watch some of those early/mid 2000s Sens teams and that long run the Sharks had through the 00s and 10s and they both absolutely felt like they should've netted at least one.

[schma]

Jun 25, 2024 8:05:14 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Jun 25, 2024 7:35:07 GMT -5 schma said:

The Panthers winning their first cup was great, though it reminded me that they started the same year (was it the same year or am I mixed up?) as the Sens who still haven't won the cup, and the Canadian drought continues. Still, I am always happy for a first time Cup winner.

Panthers started in '93-'94, same year as the Mighty Ducks, and both teams now have one Cup.

However! The (new) Sens began the same year as the San Jose Sharks, 1991, and neither have won it yet...which is shocking, because you go back and watch some of those early/mid 2000s Sens teams and that long run the Sharks had through the 00s and 10s and they both absolutely felt like they should've netted at least one.

That was it, I knew they started at the same time as another team. Yeah, I'm surprised the Sharks didn't win it at some point in there. There was a period where it seemed like the Sens would destroy the Leafs in the regular season and then just collapse against them in the playoffs for several years which didn't help.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Joe Hendry reference by a fan with a sign after the first goal.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Jun 25, 2024 8:05:14 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Jun 25, 2024 7:35:07 GMT -5 schma said:

The Panthers winning their first cup was great, though it reminded me that they started the same year (was it the same year or am I mixed up?) as the Sens who still haven't won the cup, and the Canadian drought continues. Still, I am always happy for a first time Cup winner.

Panthers started in '93-'94, same year as the Mighty Ducks, and both teams now have one Cup.

However! The (new) Sens began the same year as the San Jose Sharks, 1991, and neither have won it yet...which is shocking, because you go back and watch some of those early/mid 2000s Sens teams and that long run the Sharks had through the 00s and 10s and they both absolutely felt like they should've netted at least one.

Sorry not sorry about the 2003 Senators team.

[The Captain]

Jun 25, 2024 1:41:41 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Jun 24, 2024 22:25:16 GMT -5 jm said:

Yeah giving McDavid the Conn Smythe totally reeks of "Here's a consolation price, Mr. McDavid."

thing is, who do you give it to then?

it would've been bob but the games after game 3 just completely destroyed that possibility. really was there anyone else it could have been when you factor in the point of the Conn Smythe?

Yeah, the thing is that the Conn Smythe isn't just for the Cup finals but the entire NHL postseason. That's also why players on the losing team winning it, while rare, is also not unheard of.

Granted, I haven't really followed the Oilers' run this postseason so I can't say for sure if McDavid earned it from earlier rounds.

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Jun 25, 2024 8:05:14 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Jun 25, 2024 7:35:07 GMT -5 schma said:

The Panthers winning their first cup was great, though it reminded me that they started the same year (was it the same year or am I mixed up?) as the Sens who still haven't won the cup, and the Canadian drought continues. Still, I am always happy for a first time Cup winner.

Panthers started in '93-'94, same year as the Mighty Ducks, and both teams now have one Cup.

However! The (new) Sens began the same year as the San Jose Sharks, 1991, and neither have won it yet...which is shocking, because you go back and watch some of those early/mid 2000s Sens teams and that long run the Sharks had through the 00s and 10s and they both absolutely felt like they should've netted at least one.

New Senators entered in 92-93 with the Lightning. Sharks were a solo expansion team the year before

[HMARK Center]

Jun 25, 2024 11:11:18 GMT -5 The Summer of Muskrat XVII said:

Jun 25, 2024 8:05:14 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Panthers started in '93-'94, same year as the Mighty Ducks, and both teams now have one Cup.

However! The (new) Sens began the same year as the San Jose Sharks, 1991, and neither have won it yet...which is shocking, because you go back and watch some of those early/mid 2000s Sens teams and that long run the Sharks had through the 00s and 10s and they both absolutely felt like they should've netted at least one.

New Senators entered in 92-93 with the Lightning. Sharks were a solo expansion team the year before

Shit! My brain always remembers it as one eastern, one western team, but that's when we still had the Wales and Campbell conferences.

Jun 25, 2024 10:41:27 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

Jun 25, 2024 8:05:14 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Panthers started in '93-'94, same year as the Mighty Ducks, and both teams now have one Cup.

However! The (new) Sens began the same year as the San Jose Sharks, 1991, and neither have won it yet...which is shocking, because you go back and watch some of those early/mid 2000s Sens teams and that long run the Sharks had through the 00s and 10s and they both absolutely felt like they should've netted at least one.

Sorry not sorry about the 2003 Senators team.

I will never be sorry for that one.

The only apology needed for that season was for Brodeur not winning the Conn Smythe.