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Post by Platypus Mod, with a new hat on Aug 5, 2023 23:42:59 GMT -5
Screw business. I do not care at all if it’s selling tickets, shit is still shit. especially as the WWE has been setup in such a way that it makes money REGARDLESS of the quality of the show, or who is on it or on top. Personally I've found overall the storyline is going in circles... it's got some of the dullest lows that go on forever... the exciting highs are fleeting and don't actually amount to anything long term. It's been stretched to hell with no actual idea or plan behind it besides "Roman wins." and they have done a piss poor job of getting anyone over to actually challenge Roman. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 5, 2023 23:43:02 GMT -5
I can't deny that the storyline has peaked very well at times But this feels like the second worst low point since Cody loss, just like WCW Russo shit, not a fan at all. Feels like they're stretching like Laffy Taffy now. I'm not sure how it's that far of a low. Everyone told me there was no chance of Jey winning, and he didn't, but he came out looking strong and there's an Uso feud come out of it. He lost. Right now dude looks like a bottle job. |
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 5, 2023 23:43:24 GMT -5
Swerve bro swerve.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 5, 2023 23:44:23 GMT -5
Plenty of people, otherwise the story wouldn’t go on for 3+ years It shouldn't have gone on for three plus years, it should have ended at Mania. the ratings indicate otherwise. I get the frustration over monotony, but objectively, the bloodline story hasn't been mishandled. |
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Post by jm on Aug 5, 2023 23:44:42 GMT -5
That was hilarious. This story has gone from Shawshank Redemption levels of quality to The Room. "You are tearing me apart, Jimmy!!!!" |
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Post by fw91 on Aug 5, 2023 23:46:38 GMT -5
Btw, I don't see how this is a stupid russo-swerve. The seed was clearly planted when Roman said "you only become main event Jey when Jimmy gets hurt." Jimmy may not even be re-aligning with the bloodline. He might feel that he's just as entitled to be the one as Jey is.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 5, 2023 23:46:52 GMT -5
That was hilarious. This story has gone from Shawshank Redemption levels of quality to The Room. The emperor has no clothes |
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Post by Platypus Mod, with a new hat on Aug 5, 2023 23:48:19 GMT -5
we have two usos threads gonna merge them...
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Post by Chiral on Aug 5, 2023 23:50:16 GMT -5
I didn't watch so maybe it was a masterpiece, and if you enjoyed it more power to you no hate your way. I don't want to come in with a "I'm not watching but heh knew it [insert smug emoji here]" energy, but this is directed at the people who find this miserable and keep hoping for a light at the end of this booking tunnel slogging through watching something that isn't gonna change:  |
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Aug 5, 2023 23:51:12 GMT -5
Boy you know you've done something special when a lot of the argument is boiling down to "Oh my god who could care about this shit anymore?" "I CARE!!" Poor Punk, he thought he was the truly divisive angle maker these days  There's nothing one can present to interest someone if they have no intention of being interested, though. If you can watch the lead-up to Night of Champions and MITB and not feel anything, that's fine. But that's a matter of taste when so many who actually watch week in and out consider those moments to be among the best in the last 20 years. I was salty as f*** about Cody losing at Night 2, I was there, but I see the path now. Maybe you would've done it different. But doing it different doesn't lead to the same moments we've gotten out of it or their intensity. There's no wrong way to want a story - it just irritates me when someone pops in to shit when they don't even watch (not you since you do peek in a lot). It's like someone not watching Breaking Bad and popping in every episode going "Wow, Walter STILL hasn't seen the light huh? How's that going?" when that's an essential hook. Not saying it's written that well but things are set up and gone back to and to say they aren't because it's not going at the pace or beats you want doesn't mean there isn't a plan there. Also the "well idc about business I still think it's shit" is fine, but it makes no sense for a booker to take you into account when you've got such a spike because of it. Selling more tickets and getting more interest is what the business is about. There should be no other goal for someone at the helm of a pro wrestling product. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 5, 2023 23:51:36 GMT -5
It shouldn't have gone on for three plus years, it should have ended at Mania. the ratings indicate otherwise. I get the frustration over monotony, but objectively, the bloodline story hasn't been mishandled. I think objectively the Bloodline storyline can both not be clicking for people and WWE can be a hot product. The storyline has been hot, it's gotten eyes, I've even said that, when it's hit it's been fantastic But the parts in between those parts that hit f***ing blow when WWE's entire main character orbit is entrenched within this. |
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Post by deezy on Aug 5, 2023 23:53:35 GMT -5
Btw, I don't see how this is a stupid russo-swerve. The seed was clearly planted when Roman said "you only become main event Jey when Jimmy gets hurt." Jimmy may not even be re-aligning with the bloodline. He might feel that he's just as entitled to be the one as Jey is. This is how I'm looking at and think how it will play out. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 5, 2023 23:53:44 GMT -5
Boy you know you've done something special when a lot of the argument is boiling down to "Oh my god who could care about this shit anymore?" "I CARE!!" Poor Punk, he thought he was the truly divisive angle maker these days There's nothing one can present to interest someone if they have no intention of being interested, though. If you can watch the lead-up to Night of Champions and MITB and not feel anything, that's fine. But that's a matter of taste when so many who actually watch week in and out consider those moments to be among the best in the last 20 years. I was salty as f*** about Cody losing at Night 2, I was there, but I see the path now. Maybe you would've done it different. But doing it different doesn't lead to the same moments we've gotten out of it or their intensity. There's no wrong way to want a story - it just irritates me when someone pops in to shit when they don't even watch (not you since you do peek in a lot). It's like someone not watching Breaking Bad and popping in every episode going "Wow, Walter STILL hasn't seen the light huh? How's that going?" when that's an essential hook. Not saying it's written that well but things are set up and gone back to and to say they aren't because it's not going at the pace or beats you want doesn't mean there isn't a plan there. Also the "well idc about business I still think it's shit" is fine, but it makes no sense for a booker to take you into account when you've got such a spike because of it. Selling more tickets and getting more interest is what the business is about. There should be no other goal for someone at the helm of a pro wrestling product. Listen I get what I say in the grand scheme doesn't mean shit and WWE's gonna do what it wants, but I'm just venting on the forum where I vent about rasslin and what is and isn't working for me, and that finish isn't working for me and I just want the damn reign to end even though I know it won't and they have no reason to ever do it. I don't like when people pop into shit to be assholes either, I've watched this story from the jump and that's why it's infuriating to me at times like tonight tbh |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 5, 2023 23:54:33 GMT -5
Btw, I don't see how this is a stupid russo-swerve. The seed was clearly planted when Roman said "you only become main event Jey when Jimmy gets hurt." Jimmy may not even be re-aligning with the bloodline. He might feel that he's just as entitled to be the one as Jey is. So he decides to f*** his brother over just as he is about to win the title? It's still stupid and shortsited on Jimmys part, because if he waited, then he can screw Jey over and win the big one. |
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 5, 2023 23:55:41 GMT -5
Btw, I don't see how this is a stupid russo-swerve. The seed was clearly planted when Roman said "you only become main event Jey when Jimmy gets hurt." Jimmy may not even be re-aligning with the bloodline. He might feel that he's just as entitled to be the one as Jey is. Jimmy was the one who started this only a couple months ago. He wanted Jey with him. Those “seeds” feel VERY forced. For me it just feels like every freaking time th te has to be some last minute BS because Roman just can’t freaking lose. We’re going in circles now. |
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Post by fw91 on Aug 5, 2023 23:55:41 GMT -5
the ratings indicate otherwise. I get the frustration over monotony, but objectively, the bloodline story hasn't been mishandled. I think objectively the Bloodline storyline can both not be clicking for people and WWE can be a hot product. The storyline has been hot, it's gotten eyes, I've even said that, when it's hit it's been fantastic But the parts in between those parts that hit f***ing blow when WWE's entire main character orbit is entrenched within this. but respectively, that opinion doesn't hold up when business shows that it's working. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 5, 2023 23:56:00 GMT -5
Btw, I don't see how this is a stupid russo-swerve. The seed was clearly planted when Roman said "you only become main event Jey when Jimmy gets hurt." Jimmy may not even be re-aligning with the bloodline. He might feel that he's just as entitled to be the one as Jey is. So he decides to f*** his brother over just as he is about to win the title? It's still stupid and shortsited on Jimmys part, because if he waited, then he can screw Jey over and win the big one. Yeah it's not a shock people are calling this a Jump the Shark moment for the storyline. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 5, 2023 23:56:29 GMT -5
I didn't watch so maybe it was a masterpiece, and if you enjoyed it more power to you no hate your way. I don't want to come in with a "I'm not watching but heh knew it [insert smug emoji here]" energy, but this is directed at the people who find this miserable and keep hoping for a light at the end of this booking tunnel slogging through watching something that isn't gonna change: hella jeff is hella tired of this shit! |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 5, 2023 23:57:12 GMT -5
I think objectively the Bloodline storyline can both not be clicking for people and WWE can be a hot product. The storyline has been hot, it's gotten eyes, I've even said that, when it's hit it's been fantastic But the parts in between those parts that hit f***ing blow when WWE's entire main character orbit is entrenched within this. but respectively, that opinion doesn't hold up when business shows that it's working. F*** do I care about business doing a business if I have a complaint? I can have a complaint and express my grievances with not liking the storyline and the storyline can still objectively be making the company money (But WWE makes money no matter what so like...?) I don't know why you can't just let people be upset about this? No one's telling you to hate it with us. Not once have I said people have to hate it, I've just said I think this plan sucks. |
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Post by fw91 on Aug 5, 2023 23:57:20 GMT -5
Btw, I don't see how this is a stupid russo-swerve. The seed was clearly planted when Roman said "you only become main event Jey when Jimmy gets hurt." Jimmy may not even be re-aligning with the bloodline. He might feel that he's just as entitled to be the one as Jey is. So he decides to f*** his brother over just as he is about to win the title? It's still stupid and shortsited on Jimmys part, because if he waited, then he can screw Jey over and win the big one. jealousy makes people snap. It's pretty simple imo. So with that said.. tell me if you think it'll be alright, if I can just crash her tonight... |
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