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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Aug 5, 2023 23:57:27 GMT -5
I mean, some of WWE's hottest ever periods have featured some of their dirt-worst storylines. Just look at some 1999 stuff, like.
If you're enjoying it, that's fine. If you're not, that's fine too. But they're going to do what they're going to do regardless of what us as individuals think, because they've got access to more info and whatnot that's giving them more smiley faces than frowny faces.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 5, 2023 23:57:28 GMT -5
So he decides to f*** his brother over just as he is about to win the title? It's still stupid and shortsited on Jimmys part, because if he waited, then he can screw Jey over and win the big one. Yeah it's not a shock people are calling this a Jump the Shark moment for the storyline. you aren’t even seeing people defend it in places where this entire storyline is unanimously loved like squaredcircle. They’re straight up pissed and saying this is nwo Wolfpack tier. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 5, 2023 23:58:34 GMT -5
Yeah it's not a shock people are calling this a Jump the Shark moment for the storyline. you aren’t even seeing people defend it in places where this entire storyline is unanimously loved like squaredcircle. They’re straight up pissed and saying this is nwo Wolfpack tier. Do not change directions on the Us-pack |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 5, 2023 23:59:30 GMT -5
Once again, literally none of this required Roman to win at Mania. The match tonight was pushed as for the position of Tribal Chief just as much as it was for the title. It all works just fine without the title involved.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 6, 2023 0:00:24 GMT -5
Like McDonald’s is the most popular restaurant going but if you think I’m usually gonna take that shit over the local pizza joint you’re f***ing tripping
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Post by fw91 on Aug 6, 2023 0:00:32 GMT -5
So he decides to f*** his brother over just as he is about to win the title? It's still stupid and shortsited on Jimmys part, because if he waited, then he can screw Jey over and win the big one. Yeah it's not a shock people are calling this a Jump the Shark moment for the storyline. like I said it's resentment brought on by jealousy. Jimmy thinks Jey capitalizes on his injuries when he never got the chance to be the one take down Roman. He wants to show the WWE universe that he's just as good and is capable of doing it. They beat Roman together but Jey gets all the credit because he got the pin? Beating Jey after the fact wouldn't hit the same as beating Roman. Again, I can see why one would want to see Roman lose at this point, but the story isn't illogical. |
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Post by Some Guy on Aug 6, 2023 0:00:53 GMT -5
I mean, some of WWE's hottest ever periods have featured some of their dirt-worst storylines. Just look at some 1999 stuff, like. If you're enjoying it, that's fine. If you're not, that's fine too. But they're going to do what they're going to do regardless of what us as individuals think, because they've got access to more info and whatnot that's giving them more smiley faces than frowny faces. Absolutely, but even with that falling back on Austin and Rock being transcendant stars really kinda helps you out a little bit. That and stories moved FAST in that era. The Vince/Austin stuff may have lasted a while in theory but in reality it lasted maybe 15 months and even that was prolonged. This thing is lasting 3+ years. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:00:54 GMT -5
Once again, literally none of this required Roman to win at Mania. The match tonight was pushed as for the position of Tribal Chief just as much as it was for the title. It all works just fine without the title involved. Yes but have you considered how HISTORIC it all is? God long title reigns need to f***ing die. Someone hits the six month mark immediately vacate that shit. |
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Post by Platypus Mod, with a new hat on Aug 6, 2023 0:01:09 GMT -5
I repeat what I said earlier... wasn't one of the reasons for this whole thing that Roman had Solo beat the shit out of Jimmy?
I haven't really been watching, and honestly I turned off the Roman match during the entrances since I really had no interest in seeing him win again in a convoluted way that helps no one...
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Post by fw91 on Aug 6, 2023 0:02:25 GMT -5
Once again, literally none of this required Roman to win at Mania. The match tonight was pushed as for the position of Tribal Chief just as much as it was for the title. It all works just fine without the title involved. Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 6, 2023 0:02:52 GMT -5
Yeah it's not a shock people are calling this a Jump the Shark moment for the storyline. like I said it's resentment brought on by jealousy. Jimmy thinks Jey capitalizes on his injuries when he never got the chance to be the one take down Roman. He wants to show the WWE universe that he's just as good and is capable of doing it. They beat Roman together but Jey gets all the credit because he got the pin? Beating Jey after the fact wouldn't hit the same as beating Roman. Again, I can see why one would want to see Roman lose at this point, but the story isn't illogical. I know why it's happening, I understand every detail. I still think it sucks and the finish sucked. And that's ok. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 6, 2023 0:03:40 GMT -5
Once again, literally none of this required Roman to win at Mania. The match tonight was pushed as for the position of Tribal Chief just as much as it was for the title. It all works just fine without the title involved. Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. Jey pinning Roman at MITB amounted to his own brother turning on him and losing at Summerslam, sorry but it actually didn't amount to jack shit in the end, especially now that Jey's gonna shift into a feud with his brother and Roman's going to the beach lmfao |
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Post by fw91 on Aug 6, 2023 0:03:47 GMT -5
like I said it's resentment brought on by jealousy. Jimmy thinks Jey capitalizes on his injuries when he never got the chance to be the one take down Roman. He wants to show the WWE universe that he's just as good and is capable of doing it. They beat Roman together but Jey gets all the credit because he got the pin? Beating Jey after the fact wouldn't hit the same as beating Roman. Again, I can see why one would want to see Roman lose at this point, but the story isn't illogical. I know why it's happening, I understand every detail. I still think it sucks and the finish sucked. And that's ok. absolutely. just saying it makes sense, whether we like it or not. |
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 6, 2023 0:04:37 GMT -5
Also they couldn’t even give us a reason for Brock to turn on Cody,
You know what might he be been one, if Cody was champion.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:05:22 GMT -5
Literally no part of this storyline has been logical. At all. At every single turn it's been entirely dependent on every single person in Roman's orbit making constant braindead decisions that never account for all the same tired tricks he breaks out month after month after month, all while he gets endlessly praised as the greatest of all time for his ability to accidentally knock down a referee every 20 minutes. I don't know why this would break the story for anyone because it's no worse than it was six months ago or a year ago or two and a half years ago. It's stupid all the way down.
And no, that Jimmy logic does not even slightly track. Getting pissed off over Jey overshadowing him makes sense, sure, but getting more pissed off at him than at Roman and Solo mutilating him doesn't.
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 6, 2023 0:05:46 GMT -5
like I said it's resentment brought on by jealousy. Jimmy thinks Jey capitalizes on his injuries when he never got the chance to be the one take down Roman. He wants to show the WWE universe that he's just as good and is capable of doing it. They beat Roman together but Jey gets all the credit because he got the pin? Beating Jey after the fact wouldn't hit the same as beating Roman. Again, I can see why one would want to see Roman lose at this point, but the story isn't illogical. I know why it's happening, I understand every detail. I still think it sucks and the finish sucked. And that's ok. I call it an asspull honestly. Thru pulled this out of nowhere just as an excuse to keep the belts on Roman. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 6, 2023 0:06:12 GMT -5
I know why it's happening, I understand every detail. I still think it sucks and the finish sucked. And that's ok. absolutely. just saying it makes sense, whether we like it or not. Storyline can make sense and still feel like WCW Russo bullshit in its execution imo, which is what it's felt like in excusing the run to be continuing as it has. That's what this felt like, felt like we're running in a giant circle and have been since Cody lost just to get back to another Cody/Roman Mania match and it's agonizing lol |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 6, 2023 0:06:44 GMT -5
Once again, literally none of this required Roman to win at Mania. The match tonight was pushed as for the position of Tribal Chief just as much as it was for the title. It all works just fine without the title involved. Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. Jey pinning Roman would have still been a big deal to set up the SummerSlam match regardless. And Cody being champion can immediately segue to the Brock feud without any issues. It probably enhances the story since we would understand why they're fighting. It all still works. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Aug 6, 2023 0:07:23 GMT -5
This could've very easily been Zayn and Owens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 0:07:47 GMT -5
Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. I see this all the time and maybe you can help me clear it up. Cody quitting WWE, working to build himself up on the indies, Japan and AEW for years, coming back only to have his triumphant return cut short by a brutal pectoral injury which he trains like hell to come back from - why does all of that not count as “overcoming adversity?” Why do we gotta throw “oh and he loses at Mania too” onto that pile? |
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