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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:51:42 GMT -5
I would love for this to happen at Mania, but I don’t think they can go 8 months before they lock up for the first time. Given there's no urgency for anything to ever actually happen in this company outside of April I'm sure you can stall that out for an eternity if you really want to. Have Jey disappear for a couple months then do the whole, "I won't fight you," thing, they managed to drag Rey / Dominik out that long when it started around this same time of year. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2023 0:53:05 GMT -5
Slight counterpoint to that; the last time someone fought in a match with a serious injury, returned after months of rehab, then won the Rumble and then went on to main event WrestleMania to win the world title was, in fact…HHH. And his build literally involved his pet dog being run over by champion Chris Jericho. Not intentionally, either. Yeah - but Jericho's run as champ wasn't in the same league as Roman's. If we want to get really pedantic it'd be Cena as every World Title mach was a Main Event! then. And considering Rock/Hogan was the true money match you could argue HHH/Jericho was a main event in name only too  Of course, but my point is someone coming back from an injury during a match and winning the Rumble was, like, a WrestleMania worthy build in 2002, what was the issue with Cody doing it considering he was MUCH more over in the process? Nobody’s really given me a good case besides “Well, maybe they didn’t want a former AEW guy winning the belt on his first try?” which had absolutely zero to do with what we were seeing on TV every week. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 6, 2023 0:53:13 GMT -5
I also don't understand how this angle elevates Jey. Sure, you can call him "Main Event", but what use is he in it if he bottles it every time? Scott Hall said it best - If you are a babyface and don't win, you are f***ed, and WWE has enough faces that are choke artists (looking at you, Drew, Dolph and Shinsuke)
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 6, 2023 0:55:34 GMT -5
I just wish we could have got Roman vs Jimmy before all this happened.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:57:26 GMT -5
Yeah - but Jericho's run as champ wasn't in the same league as Roman's. If we want to get really pedantic it'd be Cena as every World Title mach was a Main Event! then. And considering Rock/Hogan was the true money match you could argue HHH/Jericho was a main event in name only too Of course, but my point is someone coming back from an injury during a match and winning the Rumble was, like, a WrestleMania worthy build in 2002, what was the issue with Cody doing it considering he was MUCH more over in the process? Nobody’s really given me a good case besides “Well, maybe they didn’t want a former AEW guy winning the belt on his first try?” which had absolutely zero to do with what we were seeing on TV every week. Also, like, you had 80,000 people losing their goddamn minds screaming for Cody to win. No matter what you do he is never going to be more over than he was that night. Maybe you can match it but you're not going to top it, so what's the point in trying? |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 6, 2023 0:59:30 GMT -5
It would have made a huge difference if A)They didn't announce him beforehand, Cody says he wanted it that way, fine. B) He entered somewhere before 30. A long Rumble showing would have been huge. Instead it reeked of what it was, the same boring story of injured guys comes back at Rumble, somehow is gifted #30 and wins, goes onto Mania. I mean, them announcing it in advance lead to his merch selling out twice times in the space of two days leading to new merch having to be emergency dropped on so frankly, that turned out to be the right decision. I understand the reasons and Cody even said on Raw, I think, he decided to announce it in advance. Merch isn't everything though. WWE is a narrative TV show with merch, not a T-shirt factory with a TV show. |
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Aug 6, 2023 1:02:32 GMT -5
Yeah - but Jericho's run as champ wasn't in the same league as Roman's. If we want to get really pedantic it'd be Cena as every World Title mach was a Main Event! then. And considering Rock/Hogan was the true money match you could argue HHH/Jericho was a main event in name only too Of course, but my point is someone coming back from an injury during a match and winning the Rumble was, like, a WrestleMania worthy build in 2002, what was the issue with Cody doing it considering he was MUCH more over in the process? Nobody’s really given me a good case besides “Well, maybe they didn’t want a former AEW guy winning the belt on his first try?” which had absolutely zero to do with what we were seeing on TV every week. I don't think there was any issue - the build would have been enough and had he won most would have been happy. I just think they want it to be bigger and a rematch is a way to do that. When you give people a taste of something and take it away some will tell you to f*** off and others will get hooked - they're aiming for the latter. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2023 1:03:52 GMT -5
I mean, them announcing it in advance lead to his merch selling out twice times in the space of two days leading to new merch having to be emergency dropped on so frankly, that turned out to be the right decision. I understand the reasons and Cody even said on Raw, I think, he decided to announce it in advance. Merch isn't everything though. WWE is a narrative TV show with merch, not a T-shirt factory with a TV show. No, but my wider point is who was the last guy to do that? Who was a guy who had his name announced for a show and merch just fly from the shelves before his return? If that doesn’t really mean much in the long term, then why tell people for so long that’s an important factor in a talent’s success to management? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 1:06:05 GMT -5
I did not like this at all even though it was the most obvious outcome because Roman damn sure aint losing the title before Mania and even that is 50/50.
And honestly over the 3+ span this IMO feels like the most forced moment to keep stretching this shit out because there is no reason for this to happen not after all they been through from finally getting out from Romans power manipulation.
But they are gonna go with the stupidest aren't they....Jey said one thing in the heat of the moment about how he don't care about nothin , no brother and that one thing is what caused this yea callin bs on that one.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 6, 2023 1:08:50 GMT -5
I understand the reasons and Cody even said on Raw, I think, he decided to announce it in advance. Merch isn't everything though. WWE is a narrative TV show with merch, not a T-shirt factory with a TV show. No, but my wider point is who was the last guy to do that? Who was a guy who had his name announced for a show and merch just fly from the shelves before his return? If that doesn’t really mean much in the long term, then why tell people for so long that’s an important factor in a talent’s success to management? He'd also have sold ton the next night on Raw too. You have solid numbers to back up what you're saying and we will never know what he may have sold less or more if his return was a surprise, but I doubt anyone who would buy his merch wouldn't, just because his return was a surprise. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 1:10:34 GMT -5
Honestly it's probably for the better they announced Cody in advance if only because if they hadn't the Rumble would've had no build whatsoever. The entirety of the advertising campaign was CODY RHODES and 29 other guys.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2023 1:12:01 GMT -5
No, but my wider point is who was the last guy to do that? Who was a guy who had his name announced for a show and merch just fly from the shelves before his return? If that doesn’t really mean much in the long term, then why tell people for so long that’s an important factor in a talent’s success to management? He'd also have sold ton the next night on Raw too. You have solid numbers to back up what you're saying and we will never know what he may have sold less or more if his return was a surprise, but I doubt anyone who would buy his merch wouldn't, just because his return was a surprise. Of course not. But my counter to that was that people were expecting it anyway and it actually paid off for once when you just tell the people he was coming back. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 6, 2023 1:14:43 GMT -5
He'd also have sold ton the next night on Raw too. You have solid numbers to back up what you're saying and we will never know what he may have sold less or more if his return was a surprise, but I doubt anyone who would buy his merch wouldn't, just because his return was a surprise. Of course not. But my counter to that was that people were expecting it anyway and it actually paid off for once when you just tell the people he was coming back. You're right about that. I just think, narratively, it would be more interesting if you do not announce his return. Then again, CM Punk returning was an open secret, intentionally, and that was massive when it happened. Sometimes it isn't wrong to give people exactly what is obvious. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 6, 2023 1:16:03 GMT -5
Jimmy should go out this Friday with a new hat on. That might help things. Change it up a bit. Cinema. Kino even, as they say.
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Post by thechase on Aug 6, 2023 1:16:40 GMT -5
Jimmy
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 6, 2023 1:19:51 GMT -5
Roman can fly now? I think he's far too overpowered. |
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Aug 6, 2023 1:25:37 GMT -5
Jimmy Jimmy At last, you're on your oowwwwwwwwwwwwwn  |
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Post by schma on Aug 6, 2023 1:44:29 GMT -5
Like sands through the hour glass, these are the days of our lives.
I checked out on the bloodline after 'mania but then I heard rumblings a few months later that something interesting was finally happening in regards to the bloodline split that is taking so long, it makes the Sasha/Bayley split seem rushed. I checked out the segments and it was interesting. That said, when I opened the results tonight and saw that Jimmy had turned on Jey and cost him the match I rolled my eyes. This makes zero sense but is still not surprising because it's the bloodline. Lol Roman wins. It's always through shenanigans and then he's treated like a world conqueror. This makes no sense.
Jimmy was taken out of commission by his brother Solo at the behest of his cousin Roman who he had been loyally following for years, but no, it's his brother who stuck by him that's the problem. Even if it was jealousy because of "main event Jey", let him shoot his shot at Roman. One of two things happens. Jey fails and Jimmy can step up. Jey succeeds and Jimmy gets first dibs at a title shot against someone who has not spent the past decade being built up as the be all and end all of WWE. Hell he could even take the main event moniker from Jey and then also get a chance to get his revenge on Roman.
The worst part is, this will probably somehow lead to the Bloodline coming together in time for Wargames because the Stockholm syndrome is unbeatable in this faction.
Wait and see guys. Wait and see >.>
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Post by deezy on Aug 6, 2023 1:48:47 GMT -5
Yeah - but Jericho's run as champ wasn't in the same league as Roman's. If we want to get really pedantic it'd be Cena as every World Title mach was a Main Event! then. And considering Rock/Hogan was the true money match you could argue HHH/Jericho was a main event in name only too Of course, but my point is someone coming back from an injury during a match and winning the Rumble was, like, a WrestleMania worthy build in 2002, what was the issue with Cody doing it considering he was MUCH more over in the process? Nobody’s really given me a good case besides “Well, maybe they didn’t want a former AEW guy winning the belt on his first try?” which had absolutely zero to do with what we were seeing on TV every week. Hell maybe HHH remembers how things fared with him after Wrestlemania. He lost momentum and barely held the title for a month. Maybe he felt if he did the same with Cody the same could have happened with him. Idk, Just spit balling here. Me personally, I don't think the same would have happened with Cody but if Trips thought that I couldn't blame him. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 6, 2023 1:49:14 GMT -5
The worst part is, this will probably somehow lead to the Bloodline coming together in time for Wargames because the Stockholm syndrome is unbeatable in this faction. Considering that Jey and Jimmy still don't have their own separate Wiki pages as of 7:48 GMT, that could very well be the case. |
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