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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 6, 2023 0:28:05 GMT -5
Maybe that's part of the story now. But if he joins with the bloodline again, yeah that would be stupid. Which may not happen since Roman looked confused as hell when Jimmy was walking out I can buy into it Roman did like a blood oath saying Jimmy would Tribal Chief when he was done and Jimmy saying f*** it i'll take it. I think is simply sibling jealousy tho. Jey getting the pin, Jey being told he would be Tribal Chief, Jey communicating with the elders , Jimmy has never had the singles opportunities Jey had etc.. Still rough after all that, after finally uniting to take on Roman it's some new mcguffin where Roman gets to escape and still, be the same old same old. Jealousy is one thing but after all that support and then being taken out BY Roman, helping Roman leaves such a shit taste in my mouth booking wise, I feel like there needed to be way more of a push than what we got, just makes Jimmy look like the biggest bitch, and yeah that's probably the point but this shit's just not hitting for me right now lol |
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Aug 6, 2023 0:30:13 GMT -5
Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. I see this all the time and maybe you can help me clear it up. Cody quitting WWE, working to build himself up on the indies, Japan and AEW for years, coming back only to have his triumphant return cut short by a brutal pectoral injury which he trains like hell to come back from - why does all of that not count as “overcoming adversity?” Why do we gotta throw “oh and he loses at Mania too” onto that pile? As someone who would've still had him win at Night 2 - a lot of that stuff was outside of WWE's canon and there are a lot of fans (read: kids and those who only watch WWE) for whom this part of the journey was foreign besides a simple "oh he was in WWE before but he's back now". Commentary made a lot of inside references to his past but the Peacock documentary is a big part of driving this home for those who may not know of it. The pec injury was hellacious but was independent of the Roman story and a happy accident that garnered buy-in from part of the crowd who may not have already cared for him. The Roman story only revved up in January and maybe they felt a 3 month program was leaving money and catharsis on the table. HHH is a huge NWA mark and I think part of the loss is a Dusty tribute (to make him feel the same pain Dusty felt in and out character), partly believing it would make the chase hotter, and partly wanting to keep a hot champion through a sale transition. |
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Post by Platypus Mod, with a new hat on Aug 6, 2023 0:31:43 GMT -5
Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. I see this all the time and maybe you can help me clear it up. Cody quitting WWE, working to build himself up on the indies, Japan and AEW for years, coming back only to have his triumphant return cut short by a brutal pectoral injury which he trains like hell to come back from - why does all of that not count as “overcoming adversity?” Why do we gotta throw “oh and he loses at Mania too” onto that pile? seriously... you want to know what Cody's adveristy to the title was...  Being told this was his ceiling, deciding he wanted more leaves the company, does a massive run on the indies, helps start the competition, comes back as a made man... getting cut down with the torn pec (wrestling with the most gnarly injury we've seen), trains for months... comes back to hte royal rumble and wins. That's his adversity. and ALL OF THIS WAS MENTIONED IN THE BUILD TO WRESTLEMANIA |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2023 0:36:09 GMT -5
Me finding it out just now as I wake up: .HHH is a huge NWA mark and I think part of the loss is a Dusty tribute (to make him feel the same pain Dusty felt in and out character), partly believing it would make the chase hotter, and partly wanting to keep a hot champion through a sale transition. Slight counterpoint to that; the last time someone fought in a match with a serious injury, returned after months of rehab, then won the Rumble and then went on to main event WrestleMania to win the world title was, in fact…HHH. And his build literally involved his pet dog being run over by champion Chris Jericho. Not intentionally, either. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 6, 2023 0:36:27 GMT -5
Which may not happen since Roman looked confused as hell when Jimmy was walking out I can buy into it Roman did like a blood oath saying Jimmy would Tribal Chief when he was done and Jimmy saying f*** it i'll take it. I think is simply sibling jealousy tho. Jey getting the pin, Jey being told he would be Tribal Chief, Jey communicating with the elders , Jimmy has never had the singles opportunities Jey had etc.. Still rough after all that, after finally uniting to take on Roman it's some new mcguffin where Roman gets to escape and still, be the same old same old. Jealousy is one thing but after all that support and then being taken out BY Roman, helping Roman leaves such a shit taste in my mouth booking wise, I feel like there needed to be way more of a push than what we got, just makes Jimmy look like the biggest bitch, and yeah that's probably the point but this shit's just not hitting for me right now lol In all honesty, nothing besides Roman losing the title 2-3 years ago is going to work for people no matter the story lol |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:38:04 GMT -5
Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. I see this all the time and maybe you can help me clear it up. Cody quitting WWE, working to build himself up on the indies, Japan and AEW for years, coming back only to have his triumphant return cut short by a brutal pectoral injury which he trains like hell to come back from - why does all of that not count as “overcoming adversity?” Why do we gotta throw “oh and he loses at Mania too” onto that pile? Don't care what anyone says, still maintain Cody looked horrifically bad coming out of Mania choking after all of that. Entire build was, "You've never been able to get the job done and your dead dad loved me more than you," and then he lost and acted like a spineless wimp over it. I still only see a shitty loser looking at this character. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:38:52 GMT -5
Still rough after all that, after finally uniting to take on Roman it's some new mcguffin where Roman gets to escape and still, be the same old same old. Jealousy is one thing but after all that support and then being taken out BY Roman, helping Roman leaves such a shit taste in my mouth booking wise, I feel like there needed to be way more of a push than what we got, just makes Jimmy look like the biggest bitch, and yeah that's probably the point but this shit's just not hitting for me right now lol In all honesty, nothing besides Roman losing the title 2-3 years ago is going to work for people no matter the story lol I mean, yeah? You're not winning people over on a story they find bad three years later no matter what you do. If the story doesn't work for someone it doesn't work. |
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Aug 6, 2023 0:39:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 0:41:14 GMT -5
I don't know what the appeal of the angle is anymore after this, but more power to anyone still digging it.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 6, 2023 0:41:20 GMT -5
Still rough after all that, after finally uniting to take on Roman it's some new mcguffin where Roman gets to escape and still, be the same old same old. Jealousy is one thing but after all that support and then being taken out BY Roman, helping Roman leaves such a shit taste in my mouth booking wise, I feel like there needed to be way more of a push than what we got, just makes Jimmy look like the biggest bitch, and yeah that's probably the point but this shit's just not hitting for me right now lol In all honesty, nothing besides Roman losing the title 2-3 years ago is going to work for people no matter the story lol Cody winning at Mania was gonna work for like everyone, EVERYONE was dialed in lol And I consider that a f***ing success given how long it had drug on and how deflated people were Sami didn't win a month prior... but now? After not pulling the trigger there? We are in filler arc central again and it blows... when you keep dragging something out longer and longer the payoff is gonna matter for less and less people imo |
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Post by Chiral on Aug 6, 2023 0:42:26 GMT -5
Literally no part of this storyline has been logical. At all. At every single turn it's been entirely dependent on every single person in Roman's orbit making constant braindead decisions that never account for all the same tired tricks he breaks out month after month after month, all while he gets endlessly praised as the greatest of all time for his ability to accidentally knock down a referee every 20 minutes. I don't know why this would break the story for anyone because it's no worse than it was six months ago or a year ago or two and a half years ago. It's stupid all the way down. And no, that Jimmy logic does not even slightly track. Getting pissed off over Jey overshadowing him makes sense, sure, but getting more pissed off at him than at Roman and Solo mutilating him doesn't. Yeah, everyone keeps making the dumbest choices possible and conveniently said choices always be for Roman. He’s like a anime character with massive plot armor at this point.  |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 6, 2023 0:42:48 GMT -5
I see this all the time and maybe you can help me clear it up. Cody quitting WWE, working to build himself up on the indies, Japan and AEW for years, coming back only to have his triumphant return cut short by a brutal pectoral injury which he trains like hell to come back from - why does all of that not count as “overcoming adversity?” Why do we gotta throw “oh and he loses at Mania too” onto that pile? seriously... you want to know what Cody's adveristy to the title was... Being told this was his ceiling, deciding he wanted more leaves the company, does a massive run on the indies, helps start the competition, comes back as a made man... getting cut down with the torn pec (wrestling with the most gnarly injury we've seen), trains for months... comes back to hte royal rumble and wins. That's his adversity. and ALL OF THIS WAS MENTIONED IN THE BUILD TO WRESTLEMANIA It would have made a huge difference if A)They didn't announce him beforehand, Cody says he wanted it that way, fine. B) He entered somewhere before 30. A long Rumble showing would have been huge. Instead it reeked of what it was, the same boring story of injured guys comes back at Rumble, somehow is gifted #30 and wins, goes onto Mania. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:44:04 GMT -5
Cody winning at Mania was gonna work for like everyone, EVERYONE was dialed in lolo Honestly even then I only wanted Cody to win for the sake of Roman losing. Like... No payoff is going to make this work for me. No payoff ever could. And at this juncture my plan 100% is to skip Mania night two and have someone message me to let me know if Roman lost or not before I even consider watching it. Because I don't care about being there live for it ending, I just want it to be over with. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2023 0:45:09 GMT -5
seriously... you want to know what Cody's adveristy to the title was... Being told this was his ceiling, deciding he wanted more leaves the company, does a massive run on the indies, helps start the competition, comes back as a made man... getting cut down with the torn pec (wrestling with the most gnarly injury we've seen), trains for months... comes back to hte royal rumble and wins. That's his adversity. and ALL OF THIS WAS MENTIONED IN THE BUILD TO WRESTLEMANIA It would have made a huge difference if A)They didn't announce him beforehand, Cody says he wanted it that way, fine. B) He entered somewhere before 30. A long Rumble showing would have been huge. Instead it reeked of what it was, the same boring story of injured guys comes back at Rumble, somehow is gifted #30 and wins, goes onto Mania. I mean, them announcing it in advance lead to his merch selling out twice times in the space of two days leading to new merch having to be emergency dropped on so frankly, that turned out to be the right decision. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 6, 2023 0:45:19 GMT -5
UCE!
NO!
I'm not reading seven pages to see if I'm the first to do this or not.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 6, 2023 0:47:00 GMT -5
Yeah it kinda did. Jey being the first to pin Roman at MITB was a big part of the story. And Cody beating Lesnar in a feud was needed to overcome adversity on the road to redemption. I see this all the time and maybe you can help me clear it up. Cody quitting WWE, working to build himself up on the indies, Japan and AEW for years, coming back only to have his triumphant return cut short by a brutal pectoral injury which he trains like hell to come back from - why does all of that not count as “overcoming adversity?” Why do we gotta throw “oh and he loses at Mania too” onto that pile? Sorry, this got lost in the shuffle I get what your saying, and all of that count's as overcoming adversity, but it would have been too quick of the "story ending," for him just to win at mania.(granted Im saying this with 20/20 hindsight) Everything you said... It sounds like the perfect path to the happy ending of the story... but it didn't happen. After the mania loss, Maybe "the story" wasn't meant to have a happy ending. How does Cody keep momentum to stay on the path towards finishing it with the happy ending? Take out the baddest MF'er. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Aug 6, 2023 0:47:10 GMT -5
UCE! NO! I'm not reading seven pages to see if I'm the first to do this or not. My man lmfao |
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Aug 6, 2023 0:48:29 GMT -5
.HHH is a huge NWA mark and I think part of the loss is a Dusty tribute (to make him feel the same pain Dusty felt in and out character), partly believing it would make the chase hotter, and partly wanting to keep a hot champion through a sale transition. Slight counterpoint to that; the last time someone fought in a match with a serious injury, returned after months of rehab, then won the Rumble and then went on to main event WrestleMania to win the world title was, in fact…HHH. And his build literally involved his pet dog being run over by champion Chris Jericho. Not intentionally, either. Yeah - but Jericho's run as champ wasn't in the same league as Roman's. If we want to get really pedantic it'd be Cena as every World Title mach was a Main Event! then. And considering Rock/Hogan was the true money match you could argue HHH/Jericho was a main event in name only too  |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 6, 2023 0:49:19 GMT -5
UCE! NO! I'm not reading seven pages to see if I'm the first to do this or not. My man lmfao  |
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 6, 2023 0:50:35 GMT -5
I would love for this to happen at Mania, but I don’t think they can go 8 months before they lock up for the first time.
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